Simians vs Haswell

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Originally Posted by Anri

90% of the top leaders is willing to disagree with you and say that you are the ones with the advantages simply because you have 3 human banks. Most beleive we will farm out. Most beleive Simians is at a huge disadvantage. Ask around and you will see.

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About the only way u guys turn it get an advantage is if u use your halfer to steal during eowcf and/or your own Human/halfer to 2-3 tap their low def humans banks. You could easily tap those 300-400k def banks gain a couple thousand acres then toss in a few razes with your top attackers during their eowcf. Their "war" is over and your notice expired thusit wouldn't be dealbreaking. However thats super poor form and even with as much crap as Simains takes i dont think they'd do that.

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Originally Posted by ofgortens

+1. Dont know why they kept their faerys as their smallest provinces. With those 3 banks, soldier / gold aiding for exploring even in war would have been easy to come by.

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Those 2 fearies have to have like 10-15 raw wpa and some very nice science mods. If you dont explore them you use them to fireball simians banks and force simians to waste hits massacre them. The difference between a 2500 acre feary and a 4500 acre feary wont be much in terms of def if they got explored hard yet it's a factor of 2 to their mod wpa. Better to use your resources to try to make your banks a real threat.

Most interesting to me...everyone keeps puttin words into our mouths all age long. Its like talkin to my wife reading this garbage. Pretty sure us Dealscumbreakeraucherians have enjoyed this age w/o complaining. Funny how everyone's panties are in a twist over us. Enjoy your DEALs and CFs while we keep enjoying our WARs scrubs..win or lose

HAIL the BloodGod!

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Originally Posted by Persain

About the only way u guys turn it get an advantage is if u use your halfer to steal during eowcf and/or your own Human/halfer to 2-3 tap their low def humans banks. You could easily tap those 300-400k def banks gain a couple thousand acres then toss in a few razes with your top attackers during their eowcf. Their "war" is over and your notice expired thusit wouldn't be dealbreaking. However thats super poor form and even with as much crap as Simains takes i dont think they'd do that.

Those 2 fearies have to have like 10-15 raw wpa and some very nice science mods. If you dont explore them you use them to fireball simians banks and force simians to waste hits massacre them. The difference between a 2500 acre feary and a 4500 acre feary wont be much in terms of def if they got explored hard yet it's a factor of 2 to their mod wpa. Better to use your resources to try to make your banks a real threat.

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All of it crossed our minds.

The first move is to cheap, i gave it some tought and it would just be to bad sport even if its a legit move that would wipe them out easy.

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Originally Posted by silent_killer

It's not often Simians have the advantage but when they do, they make excuses after a lost.

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Freddy mercury has been one of the biggest Simians fans for many ages now.
We thank you for the support

I expect to see Simians loose badly vs the 3 big provs. Even if by some miracle Simians wins the war because Deuche's wd to save the 3 banks, deuche's destroy the halfer and Calle, leaving a 10k acres Anri..........just my own prediction.

Anri you put way too much focus into LL etc, you only have so much mana. Why do you guys always grow Anri's big Fairy prov after you establish one bank each age? At least put up some back up for your big human and don't leave him hanging out to dry age after age.

I hope to see a close war, but I don't expect it will happen.

Looking forward to this one: Magneto vs Dr. Doom never fails to sell comix

<3 alan03

Black Rage is waiting for you Simians..... xoxo

And yes Bishop, black people do play Utopia.

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Originally Posted by Crazy Pete

I expect to see Simians loose badly vs the 3 big provs. Even if by some miracle Simians wins the war because Deuche's wd to save the 3 banks, deuche's destroy the halfer and Calle, leaving a 10k acres Anri..........just my own prediction.

Anri you put way too much focus into LL etc, you only have so much mana. Why do you guys always grow Anri's big Fairy prov after you establish one bank each age? At least put up some back up for your big human and don't leave him hanging out to dry age after age.

I hope to see a close war, but I don't expect it will happen.

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This is what most think will happen. Even so, Strippers says they have disadvantage.

FYI this is the first time we grew a faery calf intentionally.

No bets, no polls? Almost feels like there is no war incoming.
Odds is that you win big if you bet for Simians :)

calf war will be difficult... what about core vs core ;) no one has discussed this much or im just to lazy to see page 2-3

Simians have already been way to nice to the dealbreakers. You should have started to tap them the minute Jerks wd

get it on already

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Originally Posted by SillyRabbit

Well it wouldn't be the first time that we've been forced to war, this age or otherwise. And thanks to calle for making the 7th thread about our kingdom this age. It's fun playing in t10 without cfs. Already got 6th war lined up and you compare that to some other kids at 3/3, 2/2, 1/1. My personal opinion is that you shouldn't be able to crown by cfing and whoring, you should earn it.

Also interesting to note: for the whole age up until a week ago we were bigger that Simians and due to our understanding we left them alone. Can't say we are surprised that Simians decides we can fight once they've gotten a land advantage over us.

Looking forward to a clean fight, with whoever we end up warring :)

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You aren't playing in the top 10 without CF's. If you were, there would have been no notice from Simians to end your CF. You also have CF's with other top 10 kingdoms. So don't lie to the public. Also if you crowned this age, you certainly didn't earn it, so I'm unsure why you made that comment. Hilarious to say the least.

Also to the person that said Simians has the advantage, you're smoking crack.

UG have you SoT'ed our kingdom?
Also, we aren't trying to crown, we're going for wars, and for you to think every single kd at the top doesnt want to try and vulture our acres you have no idea what you're talking about. Please get a clue before stating your opinion so perhaps I can have more respect for what you say.

PS. We currently only have 1 CF with a kingdom in the top 5 right now which is due to expire soon, again, get your facts right before you make your case.

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Originally Posted by Crazy Pete

I expect to see Simians loose badly vs the 3 big provs. Even if by some miracle Simians wins the war because Deuche's wd to save the 3 banks, deuche's destroy the halfer and Calle, leaving a 10k acres Anri..........just my own prediction.

Anri you put way too much focus into LL etc, you only have so much mana. Why do you guys always grow Anri's big Fairy prov after you establish one bank each age? At least put up some back up for your big human and don't leave him hanging out to dry age after age.

I hope to see a close war, but I don't expect it will happen.

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They're gonna be hard pressed to destroy a halfling with humans and their **** military.

well **** i guess we shouldnt even fight the war if its already been decided......

Interesting turn of events over the past few hours. My understand is that AMA noticed SWEA and SWEA noticed Simians. Not sure on the exact time needed between notice and conflict. This could potentially change Simians future plans, if SWEA notice ends before we are OOW, they might get hostile with Simians before they can hostile us. Talk around the grapevine is Simians dodging SWEA by waving into our war. Certainly an option, though I think Simians has more class than that. And if they do still wave us into war, I wouldn't regard the conflict as hostile. Meaning Simians could potentially still be fair game for SWEA to wave. Guess we will have to see how it all plays out. In any case, I look forward to see how the involved kds fairly handle their intricate relationships.

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Originally Posted by SillyRabbit

Interesting turn of events over the past few hours. My understand is that AMA noticed SWEA and SWEA noticed Simians. Not sure on the exact time needed between notice and conflict. This could potentially change Simians future plans, if SWEA notice ends before we are OOW, they might get hostile with Simians before they can hostile us. Talk around the grapevine is Simians dodging SWEA by waving into our war. Certainly an option, though I think Simians has more class than that. And if they do still wave us into war, I wouldn't regard the conflict as hostile. Meaning Simians could potentially still be fair game for SWEA to wave. Guess we will have to see how it all plays out. In any case, I look forward to see how the involved kds fairly handle their intricate relationships.

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Just because you dont consider it a hostile doesnt mean anyone else doesnt...

EoWCF hits are bs, that is pure vulturing, the whole reason for an EoWCF is to recover from war, hitting into one is lame. You ask AMA, BB, Pew Pew, Havoc, even Sanc and Rage if they are in EoWCF and another kingdom hits them and says "We're hostile now", and see what they say (if they are the weaker kingdom pumping after a pretty hard fought war).

put the shoe on the other foot and ask the same question and you will get the opposite answer....

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Originally Posted by SillyRabbit

Interesting turn of events over the past few hours. My understand is that AMA noticed SWEA and SWEA noticed Simians. Not sure on the exact time needed between notice and conflict. This could potentially change Simians future plans, if SWEA notice ends before we are OOW, they might get hostile with Simians before they can hostile us. Talk around the grapevine is Simians dodging SWEA by waving into our war. Certainly an option, though I think Simians has more class than that. And if they do still wave us into war, I wouldn't regard the conflict as hostile. Meaning Simians could potentially still be fair game for SWEA to wave. Guess we will have to see how it all plays out. In any case, I look forward to see how the involved kds fairly handle their intricate relationships.

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It doesnt. SWEA will either vulture simians after simians waves, or they wont. It's as simple as that.

well if simians waves into an EoWCF, then you should say, swea will vulture simians after simians vultures strippers. Such is the food chain.

by abs rules 1 bank hit is dibs... = hostile

i remember that rule a lot ;-)

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Originally Posted by Anri

by abs rules 1 bank hit is dibs... = hostile

i remember that rule a lot ;-)

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Do you see Absalom around to enforce that rule? Run Forest, run.

P.S. Please suicide your cows <3

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Originally Posted by JustinSane

Do you see Absalom around to enforce that rule? Run Forest, run.

P.S. Please suicide your cows <3

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retalling someones cow that hit someone else at this stage in age would be extremely lame... I would hope abs is not required to enforce basic fairness in the top as we may not see much of them with dorje/asf seeming to be not playing... No Zoot or Matty anymore :p. They don't really have the leaders around atm afaik. No one has the time/dedication of flogger/elit. That alliance should perhaps concern you more ;)

Takes a runner to know a runner big talker. I imagine there will be no sympathy for SWEA by AMA since your gutless kingdom likes to hit into wars or hostiles.

Line up for AMA and cry later. Time for the weakest kingdom in the top 5, SWEA to be farmed.

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Originally Posted by goodz

retalling someones cow that hit someone else at this stage in age would be extremely lame... I would hope abs is not required to enforce basic fairness

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You of all people talking about 'basic fairness'? Particularly so in a situation like this?! Please, this isn't Comedy club.

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Originally Posted by Ovenmitt

It doesnt. SWEA will either wave simians after simians vultures, or they wont. It's as simple as that.

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FYP ;)

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Originally Posted by Koodo

Takes a runner to know a runner big talker. I imagine there will be no sympathy for SWEA by AMA since your gutless kingdom likes to hit into wars or hostiles.

Line up for AMA and cry later. Time for the weakest kingdom in the top 5, SWEA to be farmed.

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We will war AMA in due time. We would've warred Havoc too, if not for their land drop. We will certainly war x:x when people stops getting in our way - assuming we can meet on somewhat even grounds. And certainly we will war Simians, as soon as they man up and press the inevitable button.

You reap what you sow SWEA nub. Send out so AMA can snack on your cow. The fish at the end of the rod will be AMA eating SWEA eating Simians. The acres you take from Simians will be transferred ---- to the rightful owners of those acres ---- AMA :D.

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Originally Posted by Koodo

You reap what you sow SWEA nub. Send out so AMA can snack on your cow. The fish at the end of the rod will be AMA eating SWEA eating Simians. The acres you take from Simians will be transferred ---- to the rightful owners of those acres ---- AMA :D.

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I trust Elit to have more honor and intelligence than Anri and Calle. Should he not, so be it; we have no issue with AMA winning the age, anyway.

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Originally Posted by JustinSane

We will war AMA in due time. We would've warred Havoc too, if not for their land drop. We will certainly war x:x when people stops getting in our way - assuming we can meet on somewhat even grounds. And certainly we will war Simians, as soon as they man up and press the inevitable button.

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You have to understand the dynamic at the top you created, where AMA wins no matter what.

Ama notices swea notices simians long ago noticed x:x

Simians waves x:x, gets waved by swea, ama farms swea and comes out on top.

Simians wars swea, ama takes free acres from x:x, and comes out on top

Ama comes on on top either way, as a result of swea's actions.

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Originally Posted by Ovenmitt

You have to understand the dynamic at the top you created, where AMA wins no matter what.

Ama notices swea notices simians long ago noticed x:x

Simians waves x:x, gets waved by swea, ama farms swea and comes out on top.

Simians wars swea, ama takes free acres from x:x, and comes out on top

Ama comes on on top either way, as a result of swea's actions.

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1) We noticed you before AMA noticed us. We are not hitting you to run from AMA; in fact, we waited for AMA to give us notice, and when they didn't decided to pull the plug on you - ultimately, you have to learn that threats come at a price.

2) Elit is not as dishonorable as Anri/Calle/You.

3) While you obviously have a problem with AMA winning this round, we are perfectly fine with that outcome.

P.S. You know full well x:x has no desire to war you. You know full well they asked you to stay out of their conflict. You know full well that you have threatened not only to hit them in EowCF but also said that you will hit them even if they wave someone else (who - like x:x - is not interested in a fight). Your hypocrisy is simply unrivaled, with the possible exception of goodz, above.

Go reset or something?

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Originally Posted by JustinSane

1) We noticed you before AMA noticed us. We are not hitting you to run from AMA; in fact, we waited for AMA to give us notice, and when they didn't decided to pull the plug on you - ultimately, you have to learn that threats come at a price.

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If someone waves another kingdom and sends enough hits to make it "hostile", you should stay out.
There have been countless discussions on what is fair and what is not and the best definition of a hostile is simply going by the game itself; 15+ points given on meter is a hostile.
If the target kingdom does not retal for 12+ hours, the initiating kingdom is open to be hit by anyone.

People who still go by "dibs" are silly

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Originally Posted by JustinSane

P.S. You know full well Strippers has no desire to war you. You know full well they asked you to stay out of their conflict. You know full well that you have threatened not only to hit them in EowCF but also said that you will hit them even if they wave someone else (who - like Strippers - is not interested in a fight). Your hypocrisy is simply unrivaled, with the possible exception of goodz, above.

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I believe this is true (with the exception that Strippers does not mind to war but wants to have time settle their TMs) but when you yourself say you'll wave regardless of what Simians does, it doesnt make you any better than goodz or Anri :p

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Originally Posted by prot

If someone waves another kingdom and sends enough hits to make it "hostile", you should stay out.
There have been countless discussions on what is fair and what is not and the best definition of a hostile is simply going by the game itself; 15+ points given on meter is a hostile.
If the target kingdom does not retal for 12+ hours, the initiating kingdom is open to be hit by anyone.

People who still go by "dibs" are silly



I believe this is true (with the exception that Strippers does not mind to war but wants to have time settle their TMs) but when you yourself say you'll wave regardless of what Simians does, it doesnt make you any better than goodz or Anri :p

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First of all, Simians has yet to wave another kingdom and make it "hostile". As for precedents, however, you'd be hard pressed trying to find support for the idea of vulturing someone in EowCF to get "hostile" and thus avoid being hit. That said, if we are to go by the game - as you just suggested - then "War overrides hostilities with all other kingdoms. Upon leaving war, hostilities resume.". That is, the guide supports the praxis in that sense: hitting into someones war/eowcf doesn't make you hostile per se. I agree with you though, dibs are silly.

P.S. Where did I say I will wave regardless of what Simians does?

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Originally Posted by JustinSane

First of all, Simians has yet to wave another kingdom and make it "hostile". As for precedents, however, you'd be hard pressed trying to find support for the idea of vulturing someone in EowCF to get "hostile" and thus avoid being hit. That said, if we are to go by the game - as you just suggested - then "War overrides hostilities with all other kingdoms. Upon leaving war, hostilities resume.". That is, the guide supports the praxis in that sense: hitting into someones war/eowcf doesn't make you hostile per se. I agree with you though, dibs are silly.

P.S. Where did I say I will wave regardless of what Simians does?

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lmao i cant believe they allow you to have a forum account

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Originally Posted by JustinSane

First of all, Simians has yet to wave another kingdom and make it "hostile". As for precedents, however, you'd be hard pressed trying to find support for the idea of vulturing someone in EowCF to get "hostile" and thus avoid being hit. That said, if we are to go by the game - as you just suggested - then "War overrides hostilities with all other kingdoms. Upon leaving war, hostilities resume.". That is, the guide supports the praxis in that sense: hitting into someones war/eowcf doesn't make you hostile per se. I agree with you though, dibs are silly.

P.S. Where did I say I will wave regardless of what Simians does?

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We can claim you with more then an expired notice. We can start drag. Make bad hits for points only etc etc. Swea just runs and interfere here. Really bad play to try and get in on the fight before us only to run from ama... But everyone here gonna make simians look bad so whatever. Does not matter how well or how strong we perform. Kds that made bad deals to us will attempt to play us dirtty. Notice itself is very border-line when they said they will war us. Swea its time you stop running. You done it all age.

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Originally Posted by Anri

We can claim you with more then an expired notice. We can start drag. Make bad hits for points only etc etc. Swea just runs and interfere here. Really bad play to try and get in on the fight before us only to run from ama... But everyone here gonna make simians look bad so whatever. Does not matter how well or how strong we perform. Kds that made bad deals to us will attempt to play us dirtty. Notice itself is very border-line when they said they will war us. Swea its time you stop running. You done it all age.

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I was under the impression that AMA hadn't noticed SWEA, so how can they be running?

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Originally Posted by Elldallan

It's my impression that AMA hadn't noticed SWEA, so how can they be running?

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because they knew they would get noticed anytime soon by them. Cf expired yr9. They gave notice to us right at expire = run from AMA in any way they can

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Originally Posted by JustinSane

1) We noticed you before AMA noticed us. We are not hitting you to run from AMA; in fact, we waited for AMA to give us notice, and when they didn't decided to pull the plug on you - ultimately, you have to learn that threats come at a price.

2) Elit is not as dishonorable as Anri/Calle/You.

3) While you obviously have a problem with AMA winning this round, we are perfectly fine with that outcome.

P.S. You know full well x:x has no desire to war you. You know full well they asked you to stay out of their conflict. You know full well that you have threatened not only to hit them in EowCF but also said that you will hit them even if they wave someone else (who - like x:x - is not interested in a fight). Your hypocrisy is simply unrivaled, with the possible exception of goodz, above.

Go reset or something?

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1 - You are implying a cf expiration notice = a war. You are entirely wrong, and completely ignorant.

2 - I have far more honor, and crowns then you. I don't see why you feel the need to rolodex elit here. He is perfectly capable of speaking for himself. I dont speak for anri or calle or even simians, because I don't need to.

3 - Elit doesn't deserve to win anything but a muppet decorated birthday cake

x:x doesn't have to desire anything. We stayed out of their conflict, which is now over. I encourage you to sodomize yourself with a retractable baton. Swea.does.not.have.the.balls. to wave us in fort. I'm perfectly content waiting out for ama's farmout of swea to begin. Especially if swea (attempts) to wave us first. Nothing like a double hostile you brought on yourself.

Swea made a dick move and will suffer what if strippers Think you stool there target 2, And also wave Swea with simians and ama 3 vs 1 becuse Swea hit into strippers war with pewpew.

I cant see Swea making this out alive when they the one tring to make dubble hostil ider on us or on them self.

What will the rest of the top Think ? ( i dont Think our allies for the age will take light on it ider if swea wave us )

Strippers said they fine with war they just wanted time we where able to hit them when they ww , we dident out of respect and wait for them to be oow just as we wait for conflict with jerks t? end. then Swea notice us and will force us to not honor that choise we made , I dont know why Swea have to hit simians and make us both kd?s lose what have we done to Swea anything wrong? no, have we support them? yes, is simians leaders from sweden? yes , they dont just lose there own age and ours they also make sure they wont have a single allied next age.

Mabe this is Swea last age i dont know must be the case.

If they do pull this dick move and wave Simians i see then end up GB this age and the one to come.
Mabe i am wrong but i highly Think otherwise.

Ofc Simians will go for strippers we been waiting for there conflict to end. we serv them 72h notice 48h pre to jerks wave ish , So its not like Swea dident know this war was to happen.

I feel sorry for the Swedish team to Think they can pull this move off.

Like Ovenmitt said they open up to a 2vs1 3vs1 or even 5vs1.

Total ludicrous move ( them who live will see the end of there actions )

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1 - You are implying a cf expiration notice = a war. You are entirely wrong, and completely ignorant.

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So why is Simians all "we gonna war Haswell" you seem to think that there is a war involved just cause you gave notice. (by you I mean Simians obviously)

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2 - I have far more honor, and crowns then you. I don't see why you feel the need to rolodex elit here. He is perfectly capable of speaking for himself. I dont speak for anri or calle or even simians, because I don't need to.

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Nobody that farms out willingly has any honor :)

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Swea made a dick move and will suffer what if strippers Think you stool there target 2, And also wave Swea with simians and ama 3 vs 1 becuse Swea hit into strippers war with pewpew.

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Giving out notice is dickmoves suddenly? Then man, you're such a dick. You dont know what Debauchery even after doing diplo with them? Thats pretty sad.

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What will the rest of the top Think ? ( i dont Think our allies for the age will take light on it ider if swea wave us )

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So far you people been the ones crying the most, we have done anything that would break any ingame rules or gentleman rules.

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Strippers said they fine with war they just wanted time we where able to hit them when they ww , we dident out of respect and wait for them to be oow just as we wait for conflict with jerks t? end. then Swea notice us and will force us to not honor that choise we made , I dont know why Swea have to hit simians and make us both kd?s lose what have we done to Swea anything wrong? no, have we support them? yes, is simians leaders from sweden? yes , they dont just lose there own age and ours they also make sure they wont have a single allied next age

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You didnt want to give them anything you wanted to be a patethic little scum and hit into their eowcf right away so stop talking about respect cause you have none. But I guess vulturing a kingdom that just ended a war is your form of "respect"? Cause you're a good target obviously, duh. Why you want to war Debauchery why not AMA? You talk so much ****, but so far Simians been all talk and no action.