I never limit ppl in kd post in forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixScorpion
If we don't count moments when set order for it :P
Im sure most ppl are happy to see Proteus post so they can reply to him with arguments to :D
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I never limit ppl in kd post in forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixScorpion
If we don't count moments when set order for it :P
Im sure most ppl are happy to see Proteus post so they can reply to him with arguments to :D
Its beyond amazing how Simians cry 2v1 when they just done the same.
Blind freddy can see you teamed up with our target and the both of you started dragons and full wave us just hours apart.
Sheesh, no wonder no one respect you!
You obviously need to snatch news again then. We ALREADY waved another Kingdom and even before one hit came into us from Simians, U P E ALREADY hit back meter to 40. We did not wave another KD in response to Simians waving us. That is the worst thing I ever heard all day, and that is saying a lot, considering I have had to talk to the people in Simians a lot over the last 24h for the nonsense they pulled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
I think Proteus messed his post timing. What he mean is: Pyro was in hostile with other kd, trade hits (4k smaller but in declare range) and after it got waved from Simians.Quote:
Originally Posted by 13nesta13
P.S.
I don't know if tis is legacy or other kingdom but they both had with pyro his 1vs1 retal war and both kds are in declare range too. Any wave from other kd them is clear double hostile. Simians made bad move there.
Yowza.
Looks like Sims shoulda not acted to me. Can't wax someone, even if they're holding troops and sent cf out if the hostile button exists in this situation.
Reason is obvious, you open yourself to hits, and whoever you hit might still get waxed/declaration on.
Edit: Not keen on Pyro hits either, btw.
Complicated while on the egg-nog!
Its funny that you refer to 4k acres instead of networth/range. Legacy was never able to war pyromaniacs, this is why pyromaniacs felt confident enough to hit them while exploring and running low drafts and ****ty builds. All to avoid a much better pumped Simians coming to rape them. They are ofc not going to admit this. I found it very ignorant or maybe arrogant even that a KD without any kind of deals to us choose to be setup like this in the open, knowing perfectly well they cant stand a chance and they have no time to prepare for Simians. Thier chance was hit legacy and keep exploring and train and hope for the best. Well, ok, i can see why they wanted this chance cause they want to whore better and faster then everyone else and show everyone they can do it. If we had let go of them, whats next, they will pump up for free in the open and wave us, i would not think so. Pyromaniacs played extremely bad. All other kds that was pumping came and talked to us and since i truly wanted to fight AMA i let them go just like that, there was only Pyromaniacs ignorant enough to think they can get away with being uberfat and hit a much smaller KD to dodge the well known fact that they would get entirely farmed out by Simians in the current status they had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
So okey, Legacy tells us they will CF Pyromaniacs, they wont get involved what so ever.
I had set a wave on Pyromaniacs before thier conflict vs Legacy even started.
The group of KDs Pyro is allied with we had all ready let go, to grow as they want, they came politly and asked. Pyro was there and there is no way in hell they can be allowed to just grow like crazy without and proper counter to a KD like Simians that comes out well trained. That is super stupid of them.
I am pissed off about the BS tricks Pyro pulls.
Hostile relations was there, thats a fact, we have not said anything about that. But it was not active and Legacy had said we can take over cause they only want to CF. Proceeding that hostile was nothing but a dodge.
Pyro was all along much larger then us, we waved a much bigger KD and they cant fight back until AMA choose to wave us. Its so much BS.
To AMA, i see them as opertunistic ppl, they find a situation and take advantage of it.
There would have been war between Simians and AMA long ago if you had accepted our terms and not waved us togheter with Pyro. That was probably a coincident. But fact is i offered you war for xmas for many days and you refused to tagg up so both KDs could properly prepare for the fight.
Since when does the t10 not let two kds prepare for 24-48h before a top war both agree to?
Elit you dodge us several days and only wave us when we all ready engaged Pyro. You are not doing this to help Pyro or anything. Only to piss us off and only to find free acres. There is nothing honorable about not being able to set a fair and fun war up vs simians. I gave you so many chances. It would have been a super fun fight and you know it. None of this would have happend if you had just agreed to war us. I wanted to set a date for it, i told you we will engage you first, i can even give you button etc. All i requested was loc so that both kds could match each other and prepare stratwise. Its a load of BS that a KD that trashtalked us for 2 last age does not dare to war us on even terms in a real fight. How can you even call yourself or think you are the best if you cant fight Simians and agree on a simple war. Do you really always need 5-10 advantages to have a war?
I call you out Elit, that goes for you to Proteus. I would not think anyone of you guys would back down from a fight vs Simians when being in perfect range of each other. There is no skills in this.
Even up til we waved Pyro we beleived AMA was on a whole different location and still in eowcf but nothing was confirmed.
That you take quotes that is days old does not matter much at all Elit. You never came thru to setup the war, not until you wave us togheter with Pyro. Weak man, very weak.
Someone wave AMA 1-2 times and we will declare them. That put us on even grounds again like it was.
They armies out on a KD that is not fighting back. And Legacy vs pyro has not been active for a long time.
Only pyro+ama vs simians is.
lol oppurtunistic?
plan was always christmas war, been in topic in tactics for a week or so and now you chickening out?
what happened to big bad simians that were going to stop AMA from growing? what happened to anri who was mocking ama for not christmas warring you?
and a freeee hit on their faeeeryyy
1) You did not accept warQuote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
2) You were hiding
3) you did not want to give us location so we could possible not know where to hit or what to build/train for
4) we offered to give button and engage first if we knew location
5) we offered to set a date to war so it could be fair
6) We were tagged and gave you chance to prep for war without us knowing your loc
7) On xmas you did not hit us, nor was you tagged, we waved Pyro and had no chance of knowing who you was. (we did think you were a KD we saw in eowcf relations)
I could go on, you wave us the same time as Pyro starts to retal us.
Its just weak trolling overall. Ama did not want to set a perfectly good war up vs Simians and now that you gathered enough advantages you want us to push a button.
gtfo LOL
So much complain but i told you: we will war for xmass and we waved you. Both kds was in post war and we are both same size. You wont get more even fight in top 10 chart. When AMA is not taged its clear we will wave first and give button and we did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
About pyro part. There is no any coordination from ama and Pyro hit you. We got SN. There was 1 ambush and no any hit back. We waved. Compare this to Leagacy and pyro SN when they active traded hits but you still wave.
Simians is wrong one in all this story. For begin you need to apologize Pyro for your double hostile. CF them and war us how you promise. Don't run like monkey after banana :P
We would been down for war ofc. see above post.
Excuses. Simians is well know KD for run from wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
where's my christmas war anri? why are you chickening out?
Excuse me but you are weaksauce, see above post again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
You were to scared to setup a war and wave us first when Pyro strikes back putting us at huge disadvantage. There was never any doubt about you being scared that you might lose to us if we would make it a fair war that we had setup. You wanted the advantage of suprise and it could not been better then to wave us when we all ready fight Pyro, because honestly, we both know you were lacking the balls to accept all the deals and terms i tried to give you. You would never been able to forget a loss to Simians. If you had waved us army home into fort, easy to say now that you waved us into agg stance while pyro waves us. Very easy to talk now Elit, i gave you all the chances in the world to have a fair war.
Your making wave #2 i see also, despite of Legacy and Pyro conflict being over and Pyro and simians could now fight each other 1 vs 1 alone. Your first wave negated this more then enough, but i am not suprised, greedy always been your thing.
) You did not accept warQuote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
2) You were hiding
3) you did not want to give us location so we could possible not know where to hit or what to build/train for
4) we offered to give button and engage first if we knew location
5) we offered to set a date to war so it could be fair
6) We were tagged and gave you chance to prep for war without us knowing your loc
7) On xmas you did not hit us, nor was you tagged, we waved Pyro and had no chance of knowing who you was. (we did think you were a KD we saw in eowcf relations)
I could go on, you wave us the same time as Pyro starts to retal us.
Its just weak trolling overall. Ama did not want to set a perfectly good war up vs Simians and now that you gathered enough advantages you want us to push a button.
gtfo LOL
Ill post this a second time because you must be having a hard time processing the facts
Legacy never CF, in fact they started a dragon and full waves us along with TM ops, which left us very close in size, you followed through with your "planned" wave a couple of hours later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
You can ramble as much as you like, it was sh!tplay and its clear to everyone!
talked in #tactics about christmas war for days and then we waved you on christmas eve giving button and told you it was us, whats the problem? too scared?
war date was set - christmas!
stop crying about situation you put yourself in and do what you said you'd do, if you're not a coward.
Why do you get to dictate who you war and when?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Why didn't you leave us to war Legacy after they started a Dragon and full waved us?
You waited until we sent out against Legacy's wave, then waved us...
Now you want AMA to give you what you failed to give us?
We did not hit with AMA, we hit when our men returned against Legacy.
you seem to miss the point here, we asked to setup a war by trading locs and both could prep for xmas knowing each others setups etc. You waving us togheter with Pyro is hardly the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
If you had asked us before this to CF pyro so both kds could prepare and war maybe 12h later we would been down for it as armies would have came back. Pyro probably would been rather content also moving along. You just seek advantages, big enough so that you know 99% you cant lose to Simians. Really sad. You chickened out all along, and now that you x2 us you all big and bad all of a sudden?
I am not suprised like i said, this is exactly AMA, its just very weak and you dodged every offer up til the moment pyro waved us.
Its very easy to talk now.
Now that you made sure together with Pyro that we have no chances to win.
No sir, you can continue to wave us, while no one else is and while Legacy moved on from Pyro.
It just makes you look sad and pathetic now.
If we played Pyro dirty thats between us. You all ready override our dirtyness x2 by making your second wave. If i know you well enough you intend to make a third wave also. Because this is how chicken you are to agree to war us under real terms.
This can in no way be compared to Legacy that stopped hitting/opsing long ago and came no way close of retaliating like this and wanted to CF pyro so we could be left to fight 1 on 1
No AMA hitted with you, no the other way around. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Knight
I think Pyro and Simians match up more then good after 2 waves on us from AMA.
Legacy did in no way damage you as much as AMA all ready done to us.
We was under the beleif Legacy had moved on, i did not lead that wave at all since i was just hitting from work. Its no excuse, but i truly was busy. For this we apologize to Pyro.
It however has nothing to do about how dirty AMA is to use the advantage to a much greater extension then legacy ever did against you guys.
I dont know why Legacy faught back at all, and i sure as hell think you dodged us by waving them.
Anri, i left you talk with Benjamin for set war terms but you was so busy to call us out only. Why you didn't work terms with him?
AMA keep his word for war you on xmass but simians don't. How you expect ppl to respect Simians now after you spend 1 week for call us out?
Shame. You are so scared war us now when you see we are same size. You was sure Simians is much bigger and its why you talked so brave.
You weren't hostile when we waved, if you made yourself open to other relations by waving into someone elses hostile (twice) that's your own fault.
It's not my fault if you're a terrible leader.
Either way, you have now retaliated against us so we are well within our rights to hit you as much as we like.
We said christmas war, we waved you on christmas eve straight after getting out of our eowCF.
Cry harder noob.
So long story short Anri, why are you so angry? First and foremost, respect the active hostile, and 16-18h after no hits come in from Legacy into Pyro, you can hit us and farm us more because we just farmed Legacy and couldnt defend them. Or if Legacy didnt hit back when we waved them, you could hit us hard, no issues. And we cant complain like you complain now. AMA starts hitting you and we didnt retal you one single time for a full wave and you refused to do diplo. All I have on the table was from realm that "I could MAYBE get you 16-18h CF, then we go again. Anri doesnt like anything over 24h."Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Dont offer rubbish if you know its not possible for us to react with 18h CF. In my attempt to reach your KD to diplo, I kept all my frigging troops home and didnt send out one bit, and they lost tons of offense to your hits and to MS and NS.
You called me ignorant/arrogant, but look who's talking. The guy who thinks he's above all rules, to call other KD's relations with another KD the way he deems fit and not respect any KD's active hostile, and to proceed when I have tried to reach you guys to stop you from doing what you were going to do.
New Utopian order from Calle.
[18:33:50] <calle> we did like 40x fail intel pre you wave kd 2
[18:33:53] <calle> we did like 40x fail intel pre you wave kd 2
Let me rephrase it.
So you can do sots on 5 different kingdoms in eowcf. And then choose to hit any of those kingdoms when they engage in an active hostile when you exit eowcf. claiming that that kingdom ran away from you?
In fact, I believe you intel us after we waved legacy.
And you claim that we ran away from your 'notice'. When did we have an in-game CF and notice agreement... unless......
there's a new way of giving notice
JUST TAKE SOTs on that kingdom! it's a NOTICE! New game dynamics yo.
Why would we run away from simians? we would have warred you if legacy didnt retal us. but too bad, legacy retalled.. and you guys hit into active hostile.
Anri, you promised Elit xmas war. Honour/Honor(dont know which spelling swedishuse) that promise.
-cJtheUnhappyPyro
Are you not hitting us to dodge AMA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
I fail to see the difference.
You want an even fight against AMA, yet your more than happy to come after us while conflict with Legacy continues.
We are the same size as Legacy, hostile and trading blows, NO CF in place and what we expect is a fully funded Dragon, which so happens to be different to what you created.
Grow some and fight AMA, and for god sake, stop with the excuses!
It's kind of funny that the first thing Calle did ingame was threaten with allies to wave us while we were waving them, when they still were under the impression that we were PewPew. Thinking they could bully us around like they were doing Pyro.
Simians claims Pyro dodges them by waving Legacy before Simians was even out of their EOW CF, and waves into their hostile, yet complains that we wave into their one-sided hostile (1 ambush does not constitute an active hostile, Calle) and give them the button for the Christmas war they wanted. They've been slagging us off in the forums and on IRC while they were under the impression that we weren't in range and that they were safe to give us all kinds of ****. They said we were dodging the christmas war, when in fact we never said anything of the sort. The only thing we refused was to give out our location, so that they wouldn't have an unfair advantage.
Both KDs are same sized, in declare range, and Simians has the button. Your move, Anri. Man up and declare, or once again become the laughing stock of the community for not living up to your word.
2 weeks, 2 warwins and #1 land, with the second warwin coming from AMA, right? Grow a pair and live up to your words, and not just talk big when you think you have no obligation to live up to them because you believe we're out of range.
Why war ama when we invested all into pyro .
its not a fair war vs ama so we wont press the button it just be stupid and a free ww for ama .
ider both ama and pyro cf simians and then we can set a war with ama in a week or so or there is no war ama.
simple.
I don't understand why it is "fair" when AMA double hostiles. I also don't understand why AMA can't understand that Simians won't press the button given the damage Simians already took. I also don't understand why Anri would boast 2 weeks 2 WW and #1 land. I am pretty sure Anri was just trolling when he said that.
If you base it on the damage taken it would seem that Pyro's damage from Legacy = Simians damage from AMA. Why can't Pyro and Simians war?
I don't understand why Simians complains about a double hostile when they double hostiled a kingdom looking for some easy acres.
And no Pyro had more damage from Simians and Legacy (?) than Simians has received. Simians need to man up and put their money where their mouth is. All we're getting now is threats that they'll get their allies to wave us, that they'll ruin our age, that they'll hit into every war we have this age, etc.
And you must be delusional if we're going to wait a week to war you, Calle. If we wait a week, we'll be way out of range for you to war and you'll whine about us dodging by outwhoring you. Grow a pair, live up to your boasting that you will keep us from growing and that you'd pwn us in a christmas war. Declare or you lose your right to whine.
Why did you invest in Pyro when you had an arranged xmas war with AMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by calle
Why invest in Pyro when they are in an active hostile?
Clearly you were in talks with Legacy prior to your wave, you knew their intentions & could not even atleast wait for a CF from them prior to your attacks.
You chose to hit into an active hostile which gave you clear advantage to avoid fighting AMA, yet you now say is not fair as you received a few retals from us, yet it was all fine and dandy for you to wave us after a full wave from Legacy.
You logic is beyond me...
Same old same old Elit Anri Drama. Pyro grow some balls and teach this apes how to properly war. I remember you beating them last age.
It's very obvious that Simians can't live up to their boasting because they are 2nd rate, at best. Free acres for AMA FTW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cello
Except that last age they chose to do it the honorable way and set it up via in game messaging and I gave them 48h CF for both sides to prepare. This age they jumped into an active hostile. And while we tried to diplo with them again and again, their hits continued to come at us with our troops home.
It's very obvious Simians wanted free acres. Why ask why they waved Pyro? You(AMA) and Simians have no difference. No code or honor, all vultures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Knight
Would you consider it fair that they received two waves from AMA? The only resolution for this is 24 hour CF from Simians Pyro and AMA, then Simians VS Pyro 1VS1.Quote:
Originally Posted by 13nesta13
It's very ridiculous to actually get taunted into somebody's boasting. And the way you spite somebody is actually by taking advantage of the situation. Only solution is 24 hour CF from Simians Pyro and AMA then, 1VS1 Pyro VS Simians. Unless AMA is so greedy and still want free acres from Simians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cello
Only solution is 24 hour CF from Pyro Simians and AMA, then 1vs1 Pyro VS Simians. Unless AMA is so greedy and still want more free acres from Simians. Simian acres deserved to be farmed but not in 2 VS 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Knight
For starters, don't forget Legacy, WE ARE STILL IN AN ACTIVE HOSTILE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Abscond
Simians could have CF us as soon as AMA waved, we sucked up their wave for some hours while leadership tried to end it.
So we are expected to take hits from Legacy for 24 hours then fight Simians.
Simians need to CF us and fight AMA.
According to Simians they will only war AMA if AMA eats two waves to even out damage and have fair 1VS1 AMA VS Simians. AMA double hostiled Simians, so I guess it's fair for AMA to get double hostiled as well. Problem is no other KD has balls to even wave AMA, at least they don't have grudge against AMA or maybe they just love to watch Anri fail. I guess Pyro is OK to have AMA eat 2 waves to and have fair 1VS1 fight with Simians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Knight
its 75% ama ppl here saying we dodge. I tried for days to setup war. You come out of hiding to hit us when pyro waves us back. period.
we was ready to fight any kd ranging from #1 to whatever size. We did not know what kd you were. No one did.