It worked for the Allies. Though I imagine Hitler was also screaming "no fair, 1vs1 plz".Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
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It worked for the Allies. Though I imagine Hitler was also screaming "no fair, 1vs1 plz".Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
It's amazing to see how fast you make facts from assumptions. That being said, I hope they hit you hard ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tedurur
Wow, just wow. What a complete and utter moron you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Runefire
Godwin so fast, best way to know whos a loser. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Runefire
yes, Im not a complete moron so I can connect the dots at times. Do you honestly believe that ANYONE think that FS didnt have anything to do with this? You ****played to try and get out of a ****ty position. Everyone can see what your super awesome warring KD is made of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorash
Someone had to do it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
And I have no cards in this game. This whole situation is win/win for me. Maybe I will even get to raze you at some point Korp :)
Thanks for re-writing around 17 years worth of fairly accepted gaming in utopia in order for you to make a dumb forum post where you try to make yourself look right, you utter hero.Quote:
Originally Posted by Runefire
We should have just OOW razed FS and then employed you as head of PR.
Doesn't take a genius to work it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorash
Mix in that everyone in Pyro is magically "idle" and refrained from commenting on their double hostile.
"Oh hey guys, I know we helped Pyro in AWAR and told you that you were likely going to be farmed out by another KD and have your troops out hitting us and have been trying to convince everyone who will listen that this isn't actually a hostile for the last ~12 hours, but really it's just a co-incidence that all of this happened!!!!"
Maybe you should war us sometimes, but fact is your emo-style of running a kingdom makes sure that never happens.
And what do you call what ED and FS are doing in their posts. I learned from watching you guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverfox
Doesnt take a genius to understand landfat and honor heavy ED is a perfect target for war. Lame to blame poor strategy on us..Quote:
Originally Posted by silverfox
How is that a perfect target for war? Seems like the least perfect target for war. Since most likely wont war.What kind of scrub are you? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorash
I don't have much to say from the pyro side of things. Here is what I know:
1) a few days ago I was told people were looking for a war
2) a day later I was told, train up we are going to wave someone
3) a day later I was told, we are going to take another day or two because people are slow
4) then they said, RAWR 20th we wave (still no mention of who)
5) on the 20th I said, "anyone need me for anything?" and got no response so I went back to other things.
Now you all know as much about pyro's position in this as I know.
Who said anything about how good ED is as a target?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorash
If you believe what you're saying then not really sure there's any point in talking to you, because by your amazing logic then everyone should just wait for people to wave and have troops out then come double hostile them because they're "perfect targets for war".
Being hostile with people is now poor strat, wonderful to know. Nothing to do with your KD asking for help, must be EDs fault for thinking that hostiles = hostile.
Damn fire starters
You say Pyro is planning to soften you up for us as you say and we than press the button. Yet onesided cf offer is still targeted at you and you can close or at the very least reset relations at will and remove that threat.
Sounds like crying wolf and dodging to me.
Fun timeline, normally don't go full tinfoil hat but maybe some people would say it's quite cute how that matches up vs. ED/FS interactions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
So what you're basically saying is ED has the choice of taking a CF with zero terms vs. a KD who has openly threaterned to come after ED in the future AND whos alliance mates are currently waving ED or if we don't then we're dodging Pyro? Newsflash, we're hostile with FS & to quote Francis, "a hostile doesn't end when you say it does", you asking another KD to wave into ED doesn't change anything except probably how much longer you're going to need to be farmed for us to take back what Pyro has.Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
*idly notes that the expected happened*
I wonder where protector is now? surely he must right this wrong and punish fpyro?
last age BB actioned my kd for hitting into a fat, underpumped FS (who were apparently in a 3 week hostile). He stated things like "don't interfere with hostiles, and I wont need to interfere with you"
Now pyro full waves into ED, who are clearly hostile with FS (only a 3 day long hostile from what I've read). Protector, police of utopia, please action this ASAP, or can you only bully kd's who are 1/10th of your size?
Tic Toc BB, i'm waiting for you to punish fpyro!
cita, you know i got a lot of respect for FS and you/Francis in general, but there was an offer on the table from ED that you could have accepted and ended this..
It leaves a sour taste that especially when i know how much you guys hate 2v1's so maybe if its not you calling in Pyro, then get them to stop because this is an awful thing to set for future hostiles involving yourselves and Pyro.
There was no offer Angels, just a lot of "f*** you's" wrapped in gift paper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
Just cause you think the offer was outtageous doesnt mean there was no offers. But I guess it goes hand in hand with your own philosophy of "everyone else is at fault and i am perfect"Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
I feel like FS used to come across as a high quality warring KD, and then they've managed to drag themselves through the mud horribly over the past few ages.
As for Nesta's Nubs? Nubs gonna Nub.
Not sure of every msg Parth sent, but I seem to recall something like him asking for 2-3 free waves then maybe a learn wave?Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
Assume that is correct and you'd be looking at ED hitting FS for under 3 days to take their requests "by force" thich is something FS kept saying they were doing to ED last age. So you were unwilling to give under 3 days worth of hits with Parth being "unreasonable" which is "revenge" for 2 weeks worth of hits FS put into ED last age.
As I said before to other FS player, I'd love to see some of you justify why it's fine for Francis to be able to take what he wants from ED by force, spending as long as it takes and it be a valid hostile, while "punishing" ED for not accepting the CF terms FS wanted to enforce. But after 3 days of hostile then FS are allowed to walk away without accepting any terms and just cancel off hostile then claim another KD is free game to rest of server (while having troops out on FS AND having stealth/mana depleated AND have sat for 72 hours under ops from FS)?
Francis was unreasonable in terms of negotiating, he wanted +8k honour at one point, yet 2-3 land grab waves and FS have trash sci is "**** yous".
2.5 days of extra prep time in exchange for guaranteed war seemed like a reasonable offer to me since you guys had a fairly reasonable land advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
Several (4? 5?) waves for CF is a lot, but also not entirely unreasonable considering the circumstances of last age. Often in top conflicts, if you CF before draft, you're giving up close to 2 waves. If you CF post draft, it winds up being closer to 3-4 waves.
For once im with you.. seriously wtf with nesta. Might need a bit of respect eh boy? From humble beginning in this game become a total thrash pushover now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
Actually forgot about the part Zauper mentions.
Where FS asked for time to prep for war and were told that we'd let them prep in exchange for us having the button at war time, so it's not like Parth was totally unreasonable in every offer.
It's funny, because looking through old posts there's ones where Fratzia hit ED OOW after they went to war with Pyro in 2013 and Nesta being all humble about Pyro trying to be better KD, etc. Fast forward 2 years and you get people acting like bottom feeding cockroaches for every acre they can grab with any justification possible (ie. because we can).Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathen
Looks like ED propaganda is paying off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
Its more like, the more you open your mouth more people will dislike FS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorash
2.5 days sounds nice on paper, sadly it included no growth clause which meant we couldnt either grow our own ub's or large enough provs to even challange any of theirs 7 ub's ... so no it was not good deal. It was a loose/loose situation, we recognized it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
We were reasonable enough after that i feel, offered standards terms, were open to negotiations but it wasnt enough.
We gave them moral satisfaction by admitting to have been caught with pants down and beeing outplayed but that wasnt enough either.
We were almost equal on land and ahead of honor when they waved ... they were what ? 25k land and 10k+ honor ahead of us when tehy got waved, its enough by any measure.
We decided to pull same **** feint did to us last age, offer cf and roll over rather than pamper their egos any more.
Coming to forums after that with promises of "new and improved" cf offer is bs.
First we have
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Originally Posted by citadela01
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Originally Posted by citadela01
There was no offer but there was at least one offer? HOW DOES IT WORK!?
Come on, as neutral and regular reader in this forum, i think FS has portrayed themselves badly here. Those that might have seen FS as a good example of a warring kd, would now sing a different tune. Pusseh style!Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
I have a long neck but a walnut sized brain. Would that work?Quote:
Originally Posted by jwuzi
You now have button on Pyro, please push and war. It's only game.
Does BB plan on razing Pyro's cow?
Also, does BB have anything to say now that basically all of their allies have done nothing but ****play since this awar ended?
Do you plan to raze Pyro, or you think ****play is okey? Cause if you dont do anything that means you accept it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Nonsense, all they have to do is push button, they have a button now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
You guys stood so low and thats the best you can come up with now? Yea right, that type of game Pyro play.Quote:
Originally Posted by bombdigie
1. I'm not in a position to raze anyone in Pyro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
2. I didn't just arrange a large "awar" to fight ****playing
3. IIRC, BB razed someone's cows last age for hitting into FS's hostile.
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Originally Posted by Palem
What we got from this? Palem is for ****playing thats right it let be known.