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Originally Posted by Smitty87

Well ascension did LD to war a depleted Sparta after agreeing to war divinity....

So yea , I rate divinity over ascension.

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Divinity set terms with us June 6th yr 11. January of yr 12 emerti and the U took acres from our 2 big avians. Cfs We're asked for but ignored or declined and hits continued on our top while trying to grow to 100k to meet Divinity in a set amount of time. Unfortunately due to prior circumstance with the spartan debacle the situation did not sit right With us especially since CF Requests were being ignored. So yea We declined and avoided any potential foul play that may or may mot have been deliberate.

Ascension's war win vs Spartans was certainly the least satisfying of the age. But options for war were few. So kudos to Spartans for following through even with a depleted squad. They fought hard and we're good sports.

Ascension would have been happy to oblige Divinity with a war if it had been Ascension vs Divinity and not Ascension vs Divinity + allies hitting into our war prep.

Seeing as SS is ranked #1 war/honor yet lost their war to Ascension early age, it is a logical rematch. SS's choice to stay small all age for easier wars had made this rematch impossible until now. If SS crowns war wins it wI'll not be because they faced the top warring kingdoms and won, but because they stayed small and warred easier kingdoms.

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Originally Posted by AlphaQUp

Ascension's war win vs Spartans was certainly the least satisfying of the age. But options for war were few. So kudos to Spartans for following through even with a depleted squad. They fought hard and we're good sports.

Ascension would have been happy to oblige Divinity with a war if it had been Ascension vs Divinity and not Ascension vs Divinity + allies hitting into our war prep.

Seeing as SS is ranked #1 war/honor yet lost their war to Ascension early age, it is a logical rematch. SS's choice to stay small all age for easier wars had made this rematch impossible until now. If SS crowns war wins it wI'll not be because they faced the top warring kingdoms and won, but because they stayed small and warred easier kingdoms.

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Eh? Sorry we wanted to not grow and war faster, oh wait no I'm not.

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Eh? Sorry we wanted to not grow and war faster, oh wait no I'm not.

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Eh? Both kingdoms have warred seven times this age. Ascension was top 15 land or better virtually the entire age. So you definitely committed to warring easier but not faster at all. I'm sure you will satisfied with your crowns knowing you avoided warring top warring kingdoms after losing to Ascension.

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Originally Posted by AlphaQUp

Eh? Both kingdoms have warred seven times this age. Ascension was top 15 land or better virtually the entire age. So you definitely committed to warring easier but not faster at all. I'm sure you will satisfied with your crowns knowing you avoided warring top warring kingdoms after losing to Ascension.

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Well I hope either ascension or FS just honor rape SS as I think both are more deserving...

The blood brothers? (tbb) 3/4 ww - win
Ascension 6/7 ww - lost
Wehurt 3/4 ww - win
War monkeys 5/6 ww - win
Spectre (formerly warcry) 3/5 ww - win
Dunno their name 4/6 ww - win
Lost souls 4/6 ww - win


To say we had easier wars is absurd. Each war can be hard or easy depending on activity and strategy. Every opponent we faced have brought it and we do our best to bring it.

Our first two wars were plagued with internal conflict that was solved after we wd against Ascension. We lost 8 provs and had to scramble to replace. We actually had to raze kill 2 because couldn't find replacements. Maybe this is why we were "small" when we found players we brought them in and finally back to 25, our recruitment process is strict now so we don't get idiots.

Anyway we will war anyone but we don't go out of our way to grow or ld. Think we grew 4k acres to go against lost souls. And our biggest ld was 2k but mostly from random hits anyway. Wsk and green seem to be best range for ss. If fs and Ascension were 7k smaller they would be in good range too.

So guess that's that

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Originally Posted by AlphaQUp

Eh? Both kingdoms have warred seven times this age. Ascension was top 15 land or better virtually the entire age. So you definitely committed to warring easier but not faster at all. I'm sure you will satisfied with your crowns knowing you avoided warring top warring kingdoms after losing to Ascension.

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Guess you missed us losing 8 provinces. Two provs we had to razekill, didn't get to 25 provs again until after last war. Just keep writing your own stories

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Originally Posted by Smitty87

Well I hope either ascension or FS just honor rape SS as I think both are more deserving...

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If fs or ascension wanted to war ss they would ld in range and then ask. Atm only green and wsk have been serious about warring ss

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Originally Posted by markers

If fs or ascension wanted to war ss they would ld in range and then ask. Atm only green and wsk have been serious about warring ss

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Don't have to LD to get that honor. Just need provs to take it from those tm's

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Anyway we will war anyone but we don't go out of our way to grow or ld. Think we grew 4k acres to go against lost souls. And our biggest ld was 2k but mostly from random hits anyway. Wsk and green seem to be best range for ss. If fs and Ascension were 7k smaller they would be in good range too.

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I'm sure Ascension would be happy to offer terms that put both kingdoms on the same footing if SS would come to the table. However, even though you claim you'll war any kingdom I suspect your kingdom is afraid to war Ascension again even though it is your only lost war and would be fair rematch with internal issues cleared up in your kingdom.

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Originally Posted by AlphaQUp

I'm sure Ascension would be happy to offer terms that put both kingdoms on the same footing if SS would come to the table. However, even though you claim you'll war any kingdom I suspect your kingdom is afraid to war Ascension again even though it is your only lost war and would be fair rematch with internal issues cleared up in your kingdom.

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We beat ascension last age, and nearly beat you this age with all our dramas. Tell tyler to message us on whatsapp. Til this date only wsk and green have been serious

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Originally Posted by AlphaQUp

I'm sure Ascension would be happy to offer terms that put both kingdoms on the same footing if SS would come to the table. However, even though you claim you'll war any kingdom I suspect your kingdom is afraid to war Ascension again even though it is your only lost war and would be fair rematch with internal issues cleared up in your kingdom.

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Orrrr ascension war FS again??
On equal land.
Equal prep time.
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No?
Why not?

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Originally Posted by Smitty87

Don't have to LD to get that honor. Just need provs to take it from those tm's

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Well we have a proper cf with fs so unless they wanted to end up as a spartan xD

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Originally Posted by markers

We beat ascension last age, and nearly beat you this age with all our dramas. Tell tyler to message us on whatsapp. Til this date only wsk and green have been serious

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You didn't beat ascension last age, this is our first age as a kingdom together.

You've nothing to answer to markers.

Like I said, the 500lb gorilla in the room is the diplo environment.

Let me demonstrate:

Behold your detractors in this forum. TA-DA.

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Originally Posted by markers

We beat ascension last age, and nearly beat you this age with all our dramas. Tell tyler to message us on whatsapp. Til this date only wsk and green have been serious

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I removed 10 players at the end of last age. Merged with another kingdom. We have removed two additional provinces this age as well. We no longer have drunken tards releasing all of their elites to slay a dragon or refuse to hit out because they got chained. We just have drunken tards =P....It'sfe to say we are both much leaner than we were in our prior engagements. In regards to being serious why drop acres if their is no agreement? No point in dropping acres if my whatsapp messages have been maneuvered around.

Smitty 87, See post #34

All pot stirring aside I have thoroughly enjoyed watching SS recover from the loss. They've removed dead weight and rebuilt and it has been enjoyable to watch. I was hoping it would all culminate to a final showdown rematch. Strategically if it doesn't make sense then it doesn't make sense. Either way props to you guys you've worked hard for your positioning.

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Originally Posted by Sabbot

Smitty 87, See post #34

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same for them with your elves/faerys. I don't see them warring you. Your provs would be alor more pumped and on better sci/wpa. And for them to stand a chance and grow their tms 1k acres each to catch up on ubs they would need ages to pump that new land.
Only way I see them warring you is - you dropping to their acreage and giving button.

But no matter. We can't win it so I should t really care anyway

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Originally Posted by Bestest Ever

You didn't beat ascension last age, this is our first age as a kingdom together.

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Fine we beat tylers kd

SS at least state your terms to Sab. Lets make this happen. we are both 1/2 warring each other and the third time for war crown seems fitting.

Also, in before Uncle Ed and his anti ascension jihad

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Originally Posted by Sabbot

I removed 10 players at the end of last age. Merged with another kingdom. We have removed two additional provinces this age as well. We no longer have drunken tards releasing all of their elites to slay a dragon or refuse to hit out because they got chained. We just have drunken tards =P....It'sfe to say we are both much leaner than we were in our prior engagements. In regards to being serious why drop acres if their is no agreement? No point in dropping acres if my whatsapp messages have been maneuvered around.

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Then we won't war. That was simple :) I go prep for wsk now

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Originally Posted by Championsound

SS at least state your terms to Sab. Lets make this happen. we are both 1/2 warring each other and the third time for war crown seems fitting.

Also, in before Uncle Ed and his anti ascension jihad

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Terms? Just whatsapp us

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Originally Posted by Championsound

SS at least state your terms to Sab. Lets make this happen. we are both 1/2 warring each other and the third time for war crown seems fitting.

Also, in before Uncle Ed and his anti ascension jihad

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What's the deal with this Uncle Ed? haha..

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Originally Posted by Heathen

What's the deal with this Uncle Ed? haha..

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His monarch died after they wouldn't withdraw. Then two more provinces died that war. Twat inactivity that killed the beast(s). So he doesn't like us much anymore.

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Originally Posted by Sabbot

His monarch died after they wouldn't withdraw. Then two more provinces died that war. Twat inactivity that killed the beast(s). So he doesn't like us much anymore.

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That case, nephew Markers and Uncle Ed could be the bestest of friend around.

Dont be so gullible ppl, SS doeasnt want to war anyone at this point ... why should they the only stand to loose from conflict.
They are just stalling praying for eoa announcement.

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Originally Posted by markers

If fs or ascension wanted to war ss they would ld in range and then ask. Atm only green and wsk have been serious about warring ss

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it is quite stupid to think i would need to ld to ask for a war - accept our war offer & finalize terms, so we can arrange landdrop to make it into agreed land sizes.. if i would invest time to ld to get in your range, a mere decline to the war offer wouldnt suffice to hide behind..

This is not a failed thread after all :P

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

it is quite stupid to think i would need to ld to ask for a war - accept our war offer & finalize terms, so we can arrange landdrop to make it into agreed land sizes.. if i would invest time to ld to get in your range, a mere decline to the war offer wouldnt suffice to hide behind..

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I think you know what he means. Terms prior leave room for interpretation and pesky deal break language. I would never talk with any kingdom in your situation if I was in SS's situation. When I refer to your situation I mean your backup, all due respect.

The other stuff is self explanatory. You haven't been challenged this age. Sure you've had wars with competent opponents but Ascension never collapsed your undead core. No one has farmed core science in war. Anything you lost was easily recovered. You have a diplo environment that allows superior pump time, especially since Feint isn't lurking in the field. SS had to recover a third of their core in a poor diplo environment which we all know mitigates garish pump time.

Again, all due respect. This isn't the fight you want because I respect that you also want to be challenged.

Nice... The thread is alive again. More dramas please ....

Ok , seems like SS war with Warseeker is confirmed. Stand down guys. No more QQ

Hi,
I was informed of this thread by a friend.. and it seems like there might be some 'smearing' against me and a few other players.

I think most prominent utopians would have known that I left cRAZiEs end of last age after having a very good age. The reason why I left was because I felt it might have been cool to have an almost all singaporean/malaysian kingdom and playing more for the social aspect. I already succeeded leading the old pyro to a nw/land crown a few ages back, succeeded in bringing a bunch of random players together and having good fun and ending up #2 (last age with cRAZiEs), and I thought perhaps an all sg/my kd would be fun.

Suicide Squad was formed with my guys who have played with me in old Pyro and cRAZiEs (about 7-8 of us), and a bunch of guys from Matt & JJ kd (old pharma/sweet dreams) + some others.
I managed to secure good CFs with a lot of the top whoring kingdoms during the first 2-3 weeks of the age.. and almost got CFs with strong warring kds like divinity. It was quite frustrating at the start trying to find wars as location was leaked early and peopled avoided us.

During war 1, I led and individually assigned every province hits for 4 out of 5 uniques. We owned by min-time.

During war 2, I led the first 3 uniques before deciding to just set my province for sitting because I was too frustrated at certain people in the kingdom (namely markers and another guy) who are just wtf. These 2 claim to be able to execute/plan strategies better than me and are able to micro/macro weell.. (well. not saying there are pple who cant be better than me) but lol. it was very frustrating basically fighting fire in 'council' the whole time trying to tell these two people stuff they dont know that they dont know.

I decided oh well. since these 2 think they know so much. let them take over leading the war and see how well they do.

for the record,
troops chart:
Jan 1st: (start of war)
514,862 (ASCENSION)
479,362 (Suicide Squad)
We were even in troops when i left (Feb 5th) (~355k troops each). Merchants (SS) vs clerics (Ascension) btw.
Nw chart.
5,700,862 (ASCENSION)) vs 5,590424 (Suicide Squad) on 24th July
140k nw lead (Ascension leading) at the start
4,490324 (ASCENSION) vs 4,643,654 (SS) on Feb 5th
190k nw lead (SS leading) when i left

See the umunk chart below. Uniques are the same for both.

http://i65.tinypic.com/mceuyc.jpg

Well. Shortly after I left. It was lol-able what happened. And SS threw away the lead and got crushed during the next few uniques. Poor decision making and coordination by markers just led to the downfall. i.e taking 7-8hrs to kill a sapphire during azn hrs and a couple of other things which ic ant remember.

After the war, I abandoned my province during eowcf and the rest of my crew followed suit. I had some guys in the kingdom asking where I would be going, and perhaps I could include them in my future plans.

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So markers, regarding you telling the world I was ‘kicked’ out.. sorry. That’s untrue. I chose to leave on my own accord after deciding it’s fruitless and aint fun trying to educate you and the other guy on things that you don’t know you don’t know.

And secondly, you called my crew and me a bunch of ‘idiots’. Well. My crew and me played in many top wars (not your 22 vs 22 man wars. Or mid tier wars), and we know what’s good leadership. You aint 1. You are the idiot.

I was all prepared to be humble and congratulate you on your crown end of age (found out like 2 weeks ago you guys were top WW and honour). Probably would have sent a text to Matt and JJ personally. But I guess you decide to fan this flame first :P Well. we all know what kind of wars you guys had from the 3rd war onwards. I remembered seeing like 22 vs 20 man, or like some crazy nw advantage pre-war. But that’s fine. It’s utopia and it’s important to know how to find wars in the warring tier.

I must say that SS core provinces (i.e the non leaders) are actually a very active bunch, and listen to orders. My crew and I were actually quite impressed when we saw how active they were. It can potentially match top kd’s activity in a top tier important war.. that I must admit and give it to them. Knowledge wise isn’t important in the game as long as the player is active and listens to advice.

Good luck for the rest of your age, and congrats in advance if SS honour/ww crowns.. seems to be so.

Says the guy who cancelled more than half a sapphire dragon for what his 'whoring kd pros' tell him to go for and overextends to get emerald up for sake of 'whoring kd pros'.

Good riddance.

SS whoring ghettoes to get to the top, nothing bad in it, nothing abnormal. The only annoying thing is that a kd who didn't won vs even one of the decent warring kds this age (Div, Asc, FS) may take crown for WWs and honor, while those 3 (and mby a couple other kds) fought each other and rly deserve top. Actually, SS only Warred Asc. Never even tried harder. Utopia removed FWs but they still happen, just check SS history.
No disrespect SS players, u may be good but how can we know since you just run on ghettos?

Seems like copious From SS too?
Can share some insight? What is gonna happen next? Did u really reject war request from FS and ascension ? And why? Because of size difference?

Fake wars? Big claim.

Tight slap to all the KDs who warred SS as well as though they didn't put in any effort into those wars.

Well done Perv.

Why war harder opponents with size/pump disadvantage when you can just arrange an easier war on same acres? Would make no sense. People who want to get honor/ww crown usually try to stay below the competitive tier. That's playing rationally, not badly.

It's like in DOTA, SEA MMR = NA/EU MMR + 1000

Competition is lower so it's easier ;)

Also what's with cj kds always copying other kingdom names. First sillies now ss? Watch more Friends, learn more engrish prease

I named us Suicide Squad.

Was a toss up between that and famous scientists.