It's ok.
Some of us are happy to have Emeriti in all it's glory overshadow the rest. If I were to go crown hunting I wouldn't want it any other way. I hope others can see that.
To be the man, you gotta beat the man.
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It's ok.
Some of us are happy to have Emeriti in all it's glory overshadow the rest. If I were to go crown hunting I wouldn't want it any other way. I hope others can see that.
To be the man, you gotta beat the man.
Ok,
To make it clear for everyone: This is not about Binar, nor about Emeriti and not even ABS. Get your thread and discuss w/e you want cause I personally am sick of all the proteus, binar and rest of abs arguing with rest of server on w/e topic they want that does NOT include the current war between us and CR. Really ... not all in utopia is about the damn absies. You intoxicated the other thread already ... go and brag there ...
THANK YOU!(hope for the last time)
we are now 59 houers into the war and lost 3-4 houers of papers so i had to use munk from now on and rest of the war.
wsk_tm 43,656 (394)
wsk_raze 1,158 (11)
wsk_mass 138,449 (46)
wsk_fail 0 (33)
wsk_cq 324 (2)
wsk_bush 472 (5)
CR_tm 29,141 (284)
CR_raze 26,058 (41)
CR_mass 12,221 (2)
CR_fail 0 (5)
CR_bush 2,408 (14)
atm wsk is up 12.903 acers in war only.
Disturbed Faery Circle (xx:xx) has withdrawn from war. Our people rejoice at our victory!
June 20 of YR9 Disturbed Faery Circle has withdrawn from war. Our people rejoice at our victory!
Round 3 starting in 72h:) (just to make sure they don't start with other non-sense deals they dream about)
Good luck CR!
Seems someone is dreaming about faerytales.Quote:
Originally Posted by coss
oooooooo dibs....Quote:
Originally Posted by coss
Biggest fiasco in recent utopia history.
Gg wsk
dibs does not create anything but one-way hostiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
And as we all know, there's time limits on those :p
well after what CR did hitting into war they get 0 protection/help from anyone, i know for a fact anyone trying to hit wsk hile they fight you even if they do it 10 times will be heavy retal.
CR made there bed and either they fight or role over, no one will lift a finger to help you.
This fight you have with wsk wont be over before you manage to repair it diplo wise what you done.
You as in CR made the bed you now have to try and sleep in.
And if you think any abs will come to help you i bet they wont i think absies know they better stay out to this is all over. would be stupid of them risking there age to help you.
Nothing tactical about this wd?
after CR wd (war only) - Round 3 comming up.
wsk_tm 47,824 (438)
wsk_raze 2,622 (12)
wsk_mass 139,908 (47)
wsk_fail 0 (33)
wsk_cq 324 (2)
wsk_bush 472 (5)
cr_tm 36,178 (349)
cr_raze 26,058 (41)
cr_mass 12,221 (2)
cr_fail 0 (5)
cr_bush 2,782 (17)
Nobody needs help, I plan to stare back at them while they hit us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike^
They can pretend a one-way hostile is a hostile all they want, knowing that the clock is ticking on their notice.
Takes two to tango, and I'm long since tired of dancing.
U can bend over meep. For 3 days.
even if you dident hit back for 2 weeks all of utopia will consider this open conflict,up to you sort the mess with wsk, you broke every unwritten code to try and ****play them, there is no ooooh we dont fight back, fight or not no one will lift a finger to help you get out of this.
So was it worth it ?, i mean the ****play ?
Let's see who will interfer in our conflict.
Congrats coss and co. Nicely done
Yes gratz on the win coss and co, it was kickass to come back from what you did, warring CR (Clash Royal) while ****play was done to you, then come and farm this one also, good luck in round 3, we will keep an eye out.
Fascinating that nobody cries about how Wsk dodged Cr with a farmwar.
We're all badasses. We don't cry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Bro up nod - sup
Amazing how convenient them getting a farmwar was while claiming our conflict was still active.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Also funny how Spartans dealbroke, waved us, then claimed they would return the land, then stalled negotiations and never returned it.
(Spoiler: It was bait to get us to drop CF and hit back so they could hostile us while WSK prepped for declare)
What ****play, WSK trying to go dodge into a farmwar while claiming our conflict was still active, then getting mad at us continuing to hit into the conflict they claimed we were still in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike^
Or maybe WSK deciding that our war wasn't even a war, and withdrawing then refusing to accept the outcome?
The one thing I hate with all this is that I have to agree with people like meep and irem. It's not healthy!
MEep,
war us, we are bored....
Meep,
Txs for the war. Cya later ... stop the nonsense ok? You know what feels good? When you get sh!t played and then you beat the ones that sh!t play you;) We were even fair play and kept others from RKing your chains as they offered. No idea why we did it, guess CRS is just too soft ... I told him several times we should stop being nice and just go as deep as we can. Guess he listens to me at least this time around and wants to take you like I like to do it:)
PS: no hard feeling, it's just business.
I can't believe I'm agreeing with Korp, let alone Meep, but...
Fact: wSk and CR agreed to 30% land being given to the winner of their war
Fact: CR won the war
Fact: wSk said the conflict was still open, and that a ww isn't a ww, it's a 'battle-win'.
Fact: wSk didn't honour the deal with CR
Fact: there is plenty of precedent of KDs being noticed, training up, and dodging last minute, at which point the first KD has razed into their wars and been supported in doing so.
Opinion: the deal for 30% acres was stupid, and no different from any other farmout that anyone else would get upset about
Opinion: CR is quite strongly disliked across the server
Opinion: wSk is quite well liked across the server
Opinion: wSk didn't 'dodge' but rather got into legit battle
Opinion: it is only due to this war vs fake-CR that wSk was allowed room to breathe and get into any position to fight real-CR, otherwise real-CR would have farmed them exceptionally hard.
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I don't particularly like CR, but I don't have any super beef with them. I respect wSk for various reasons, mostly due to my clean conflicts vs them in the past. But this whole situation strikes me to be a complete DB, and CR got ****ed over big time here. Unfortunately it seems that the community has turned their backs on CR for popularity reasons, not for 'real' reasons.
Reverse the roles: CR and wSk fight. wSk wins the war and CR says 'no, you didn't win the war, we don't need to give you the acres that we agreed on, but conflict is still open and we are coming for you b2b'. CR then gets waved right oo eowcf, and declares on KD that waves, dodging wSk who they have been sending warning shots and vague trash-talking for days...would the community feel differently about the correct course of action?
Ultimately in situations like this, we are SUPPOSED to go with the facts and IGNORE the opinions. But we are human, and Utopians are renowned for holding grudges...so I guess we are just choosing our favourite here, rather than look at the kinda grimy realities of the situation?
From what I've seen in the forum (and only what I've seen in the forum), it seems CR got screwed over. ( In other words, I think I agree with this post here).Quote:
Originally Posted by s0830887
Facts:Quote:
Originally Posted by s0830887
1 there was no 20-30% deal(they proposed 50%..) but no official (ingame) deal was made.
2 wsk got waved by the other CR(wich told us after it was us or CR who they wanted to wave - seems theyr CF was also on "trust")
3. Wsk entered a legit war
4. CR razed wsk in war
5. Wsk wins theyr war and having button from the razes declares on CR
6. Wsk beats CR after theyr ****play.
7. Wsk is happy... meep is trolling again.. coss is winning again.
Same old **** including CR and meep
Same here, no issues with you, business is just business :pQuote:
Originally Posted by coss
I still dont get how WSK are so cocky after having to run away and losing the first war, wait conflict, wait "battle" Idk. Whatever, they ran away either way. Now when they finally manage to win after a farmwar and Spartans dealbreaking CR they brag about how good they are. lol Though i like how people make up their own rules. Like this one "1 there was no 20-30% deal(they proposed 50%..) but no official (ingame) deal was made."
Apparently all official deals are made just ingame, otherwise they arent official nor valid. ****, I think most of our deals were made on irc! :( Better go into fort.
Korp, if u someone breaks cf with you and u come crying about it in forums, if u have no ingame confirmation will it ever be considered as a DB? No... then why other deals should be xonsidered otherwise??
I wouldnt come cry about it in the forum. Whats the point? Unless there is drama involved. But unless you mean a ingame cf with as ingame confirmation I dont see the difference. A deal is a deal doesnt matter where its struck if its in-game, irc or WA.
Our deal with baby CR was on whatsaap.. for some reason it was considered null.. cuz meh no ingame.. by same ppl who says the deal with warRazing CR made on whatsaap was not null.
So can u pls enlight me? Wich one is it? Except the fact of twisting these rulles fot ur own benefits?
Like claiming a war isnt a war? :))Quote:
Originally Posted by cRs
Yes we claimed the war wasnt over.. we did a tactical wd and we were preping for b2b. Whats wrong in that?
We got waved and entered war with someone else.. we have to CF every kd on the server before entering a war? Thsts what ur saying?
Except, nothing about your sapp conversation with clash royale looks like a deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by cRs
A deal is a deal if both sides obviously agree to it.
Both you and coss agreed to the deal, and coss explicitly didn't want to withdraw from the first war because of the deal.
Just because other people want to weasel around about where a deal has to be made to count doesn't mean you have to.
You agreed to a deal.
You later decided to claim you didn't.
That makes you a jackass.
Everything else is just both sides posturing.
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Kind of like last time I made a deal with you, where you decided to claim a month later that one hit that you didn't complain about and that I offered to fix meant that I had dealbroken you and so our deal was never valid.
What the hell is wrong with people on here.
Why can't you and everyone else just make straightforward deals and stick to them instead of trying to be a bunch of slimy pedantic assholes to get one over on each other.
Everything about this age, including some of our own actions earlier on just make me not want to play.
The state of top diplomacy is utterly pathetic.
But when you withdraw the war is over. Thats why its named back to back. and if the war wasnt over why are you crying about CR razing you? and if the war wasnt over how could you war somebody else. Is that like a war within a war within a war?Quote:
Originally Posted by cRs
Meep please, when I said I didn't want to wd from first war cause there was a deal in place? Don't put words in my mouth pls. Also, I believe we already talked this over and over again and I showed you logs where your own people said "you didn't want to make it an official deal". And no ... I never wanted to make it an official deal and it never was an official deal, just talks about it and were in the context of being able to war emeriti later. No offense, but with no cows left you didn't really have a chance to challenge emeriti as soon as they could just notice you OOW as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
So please, stop playing stupid just for the sake of it cause you are not THAT stupid and you know exactly how things went. Ain't my fault CR has no idea whom is leading or not and you come with lines like "Dubai ain't playing anymore, he's not LS anymore". This is exactly same sh!t Anri pull over me few ages ago when Hesus quit playing in Simians cause Anri didn't want to respect the deal hesus made with me and waved us with vulture just because he could do it and dealbroke us. I am sick of all this "democracy" thing where kds change leaders as it suits them to just make up deals or break deals. Get your sh!t together as a KD and stop doing stupid twists of things just as it suits you.
All in one: we had our revenge this age and we are still not done!
As I said: pure business!
Crs: Ignore Korp, he is just a troll that will always just post nonsense to feel important. You will never see him being with the wave but against it. You know ... that type of kid that never got attention and is going to fake his own suicide attempt to get some;)
I've gotta say seeing Meep get upset over someone not honoring a deal because one side disputes it over vague terms is some sweet justice for me personally.
That said two wrongs don't make a right and this dark treatment of my faery brethern won't be forgotten
Oh and ... nothing is more sweet than to see Topsy green and restarted:P