100 usd u play in pandas :P you poor poor nooblet! prepare for that spanking!
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Another Panda popping out of the ground, you guys starting to panic or what? You perfectly knew we were not in a condition to war, we werent pumped, our tms were at 1500 acres and our kingdom was having internal issues. You just wanted to run away from emeriti, initiate a fake hostile to lie to the server. But the server knows its a fake hostile and u guys look pretty pretty fat :). Tick tock im loving these under 100 acre grabs now XD
Remind me again which part is fake?
Ha. Like I said, 7:19 was only 7k acres smaller than Frost Giants when they started hitting. Not their problem 7:19 isn't hitting back. Panic at the disco maybe!
What you got planned there Vaspy?!?! I think the server already knows!!
Age 70 Sparta claimed hostile razing CD for a month, 2 weeks without an op or hit back, while we were in war with another kd they claimed hostile. They decided a week in they'd never be able to crown(like every single age since), might as well.make a point right?
Vasp come play with us.
Frost giants is the KD last age who kept robbing anyone that was hostile with Sleepy right?
So if a kd A waves and the other kd B fb, ns and MS for two weeks, and refuse to CF then a third kd C can come and wave kd A while kd B is still opping? This is good to know for the future if it is ok so that i can take a print screen and show it for ages to come :)
Please discuss!
A fake hostile would be what 7:6 and 5:20 did when we exited war.. they sent like 3-4 hits against eachother right as we exited.. so instead of waving anyone of them we had to wave sparta. When we waved sparta 7:6 started stealing our gc and stopped hitting the other kd and the other kd stopped hitting them.
Sparta is still casting ms on everyone and one guy logged in with 15k troops gone to ns a few hours ago. I blame the new mechanics partly, had this been earlier ages we could have easily hit down sparta to below 500 acers and just not give a damn about what they do but now instead we have to do 90 acer hits to try to bring them out of nw while they refuse to cf like any typical war tier trash kd. Main problem is that earlier it was possible to handle wartrashkds with just hitting them down to the ground, which currently dont seem possible.
If people think this is such a nice situation maybe they could give a suggestion on what we are suposed to do? Just sit and take ops while prepping for another kd? Losing 50-100k troops per day and at the same time initiate hostile against someone else? Thats just ridiculous... Also the fact that people would claim we are "pumping" and the hostile is fake when we in fact are losing a lot of troops overall is just a sign of how desperate some people are.. Previous ages there have been situations where kds didnt get a single op while waving other kds over and over where no one waved in until a cf was sent and then people would wait 12h+ for troops to be home etc.. Seems those days are gone, or that people hope for it to be gone anyway.
FS pulled the same stunt against Emeriti, if what you say is true, mass-opping whilst Emeriti's gains turned to crap. Was supposed to have been fixed in the patch, but it looks like they got it wrong again, or just severely underestimated the scope of the issue. Also, certain kds are renown for disrespecting the unwritten rules the rest of the top go by and have gone by for years.
Welcome to the new world, apparently.
That said, even when I last left the game, there were certain conditions under which a hostile stopped being considered an active hostile, even in the face of one kd continuing to hit the other. The idea that there are limitations as to how long you can hit another kd without being hit back and still consider it an active hostile is not a new one. Perhaps it is time for the more prominent kds in the game to have a round-table discussion and agree on what, in the current game environment, actually constitutes an active hostile that others should respect.
If you are referring to what i said it is actually working as intended.. Sparta lost a province after we had initiated hostile so now they are out of declare range which means trottle should have full effect as intended. I just dont think the intended situation is a good one.. More like a pretty horrible one.. Apparently it should have trottled ops as well but ms still have same kills and ns seems just as effective so im not sure that ops are really trottled? I dont know hwo that work though..
I talked with hawk yesterday just asking how it was intended to work really and if it was still broken or not, but its suposed to be like this. We talked very short though because he had to leave, so might be he misunderstood something or idk.
There is an easy fix.
Aggressor kd can auto CF if the other kd have not given relations and aggressor kd filled the meter. 7 days auto CF. This way the defensive kd has to give ops or CF and then no one can claim fake hostile.
As I said, it's possible in doing the fix they have underestimated the scope of the issue they needed to fix. They have focused solely on declare range, ignoring the fact that just because someone is out of declare range doesn't mean they can't fight back effectively without gains throttling. This was the reason gains throttling wasn't implemented in the past, if I'm not mistaken.
Throttling was fixed, so the scenario with FS and Emeriti is way different.
Pumping while “hostile” and dumping your explore pool is what makes this questionable.
BB and emeriti had a similar scenario 1-2 ages ago where emeriti just took 50 hits and auto cf-ed. That option is not even given to spartans with this” hostile”.
cool so now there is bets going on that I play in 4:15. I'd advice not to bet more than you can afford to lose on that, I play a Dryad 11.
Just get over it. Sparta say they lost the age and now they will punisch 4:15 with ops and stuff untill someone wave 4:15.
So even if 4:15 back down they will rain ops clearly. Maby thats the way this game is suposed to be. Be defensive and rain ops and wait for a other kd to wave (thats fully pumped) .... lame lame lame
Shame sparta, just get over it and stop beeing crying babies.Deal with it. And stop be susha poop crushers. U guys ruin the game.
Nope just dislike Emeriti for the way they do diplo really, thretening people who random or retal them and ignoring their suggestions for cf when that happens, not even refusing, ignoring wich I take as some sort of disrespect. If someone did the same to them for once I'm all in favor of their team. Unfortunately I lost track of who is who for the most part up top, but I think BB is the one I have the easiest and most pleasant time dealing with from a position of less power and thus the team I find most worthy up there.
Nice one he who shall not be named, I think I mentioned him as such in a thread not about him that had its usual derailings before he even got banned, unfortunately I don't think anyone caugth onto it then.
There is no precedence; it's just that professional arguers join top kingdoms to debate for debates sake. The illusion of order is satisfied by the existence of diplomats for whom only top kingdoms can satisfy their thirst for "getting your facts straight".
The rules are based in power and willingness to destroy power.
PS: While Madchess may've had problems with Emeriti I haven't, but Madchess is a superior province manager and tends to get to threat size more often. I've had good experiences with BeastBlood, particularly with protector.
It hasn't changed the fact that everybody knows what hostile is, but nobody can agree on what is hostile.
If top kingdoms could secure 1 parachute to their multi-age drama:
Ape Shall Never Kill Ape
We still see evidence that the best way to win the age is to lie still, drooling, with a heart monitor beeping periodically. Then suddenly jump up and say:
"I'm ok! It's a miracle!"
4:15 faes dumped pool and moved in 40%+ guilds to pump while "hostile" all this while never going above 100 meterpoints so Sparta can Auto-CF. Clearly using this to dodge a b2b cause they are realising that not CFing us after our war was a mistake on their part.
Tick-tock tick-tock
Game Date April 20 of YR4
Real Date Fri, 8 Dec at 13:23 GMT+00:00
Sender King Ghost the Sorcerer of James St Patrick (4:15)
Recipient The Conniving King True Lies of Harry Tasker (6:10)
Subject Re:Binbin
You know I dont do CF:s and not interested in round 2 either, you got low honor so need to war a kd with more honor. > The Conniving King True Lies of Harry Tasker (6:10) said: > >
hey thanks, you too, Good War. You guys looking to cf or you wanted round 2?
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We never got that far, cause "They dont do CF's"
lol thanks. Interesting to see what happens next then..!
Binar get your facts straight. Meter is over 100, our faeries does not have 40% guilds. So if our faeries was UB and they FB all our dwarf and getting our resources stolen by 7;6 and FG by sparta. Just let them do it and not explore our UB faeries? Only way to get econ back. Since when it is against the rules to explore in a hostile? Is it against the rules now, i didnt get the latest abs memo?
Always this **** in ”the top”, binar doing everything to make it sound like this isnt a hostile. And you ask me why I dont CF? We almost never CF after a war. After a wave where a kd dont want to war is only time we usually CF. What is wrong with that? What does that has to do that we are losing more troops than sparta for each hour and most likely if the declare in 2-3 weeks they will have better econ and more army. This is how the game is working at the moment, just have to like it :)
Again you are wrong, we only explore the faeries, no one else. And that is less then 1.3 as one faery didnt explore in hostile. As i said, that was a good move to get econ going and able to aid our fb:d provinces as Sparta would take it longn. And mid hostile? Hostile is still ongoing and we explored many days ago. According to sparta they will continue for a while but who knows, they dont wanna CF and that is their choice and right.
Funny thing is nor FG or Sparta crying about the conflict, only Binar...
Be patient Binar, you will get your chance to vulture, just keep your panties on for now.
Take a survey? I have 23,7% guilds now. I wish i could run 40% as Boner is claiming but i need 30% WT:s so the AW i receive will fail and damage be low.