Job well done Palem <3 ! I enjoy seeing others banned, so much better!Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
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Job well done Palem <3 ! I enjoy seeing others banned, so much better!Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
The only dog I have in this fight is the desire to see Uto prosper. That's my bias, let's be clear about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop
These guys are griefing, Sheister plays for griefing, he has already posted to the effect that is their only fun in Uto any more. The kingdom he joined now has an excuse for griefing.
Let's not pretend this is about some poor ghetto standing up to bullying. I've read the history in this thread and comments in the other thread, and it's absolutely clear what is going on to someone who is NOT involved with either side.
I absolutely respect you responding to me about this Bishop, I really do, but you need to seriously think about the big pic, which is the health of Uto, and all the people you don't know or know of, not whether some particular individual can use or abuse the mechanics to their advantage.
Now wait one second. At PRESENT I play for griefing. When I thought this was going to go away I was going to play to train nubs in my age off. DD just gave me something that was funnier to do. Steel did not recruit me. Korp asked if I would like to join because he was in a war with x:x and it seemed more fun that picking on DD or training nubs. So sue me, I abandoned griefing. My reward for abandoning griefing, was to get sucked into griefing.
/me shrugs
Every time I think I am out, they pull me back in again.
Why just the other day DD told me they were not going to hit me anymore. Yet here I am being hit hit hit. Oh well. The fun part is that they can't seem to keep me from playing. I am just rolling around the server killing inactives for other monarchs because my NW is itty and bitty. OH WOW! and I might make Baron soon. ROFL.
Korp asked you to join because he was in a war? Strange there's no wars on the kd page then, isn't it?
I have to say it does seem impossible to have an honest convo with you guys....
But I'm not going read a long, convoluted 'explanation' of exactly why you are 0/0 despite being invited in solely to help out in a war. (which is also pretty low IMO but isn't griefing)
My reward for abandoning griefing, was to get sucked into griefing.
Like I said somewhere else, griefers grief, it's in their nature, even if they say they don't particularly want to do it.
I have PKed DD provinces in the past and never even received so much as a message from the monarch. All I got was messages from the individual province. I am amazed they have a pulse.
We don't play for 'griefing' we play for fun. This happens to be fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweetiepie
And I'm not seeing overwhelming support for DD anywhere.
Replace 'war' with 'hostile' and his post is entirely correct.Quote:
Korp asked you to join because he was in a war? Strange there's no wars on the kd page then, isn't it?
I have to say it does seem impossible to have an honest convo with you guys....
But I'm not going read a long, convoluted 'explanation' of exactly why you are 0/0 despite being invited in solely to help out in a war. (which is also pretty low IMO but isn't griefing)
My reward for abandoning griefing, was to get sucked into griefing.
Like I said somewhere else, griefers grief, it's in their nature, even if they say they don't particularly want to do it.
lol @ honest conversations. DD lies while logs are being posted to prove they're lying.
I'm not sure who DD is but I've not seen them extend a reasonable offer to Korp N crew. I'm not saying they have not extended one, I'm just pointing out I've followed this thread and I've not seen it; so maybe I missed it, but if I did I'm going to guess others missed it too.
I'm wanting to know what Sweetiepie thinks a Ghetto going up against a, like I've asked before, grossly numerically superior kingdom is supposed to do? I consider it unreasonable for said types of kingdoms (the small ones) to just accept bullying.
Krynn came forward as the 'founder' of DD and said that the rest of them were stepping out of negotiations. I spoke to him in private (my mistake) and the logs are (consensually) posted in this thread somewhere. At the time he offered us acres & even mentioned a full wave. I initially rejected but then took counsel with the rest of our kingdom. During that time Abi (DD's monarch) continued to dig herself a hole and so we never bothered to respond again. This evidently upset Krynn a lot, and he doesn't understand why his monarch's public posts should influence diplomacy between us. In addition, Abi & co deny that Krynn was ever in a position to negotiate a deal with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by khronosschoty
I learnt my lesson and conducted the next round of talks with 'lost' in #tactics. Those logs are also posted and he made it clear no deal would be accepted.
With the exception of that sole discussion between Krynn and I, DD have offered absolutely nothing but a 'a line and a blank CF'. We've expressed that this is unacceptable to us, and why, in great detail and in repetition.
For the record, the Republic of Octobrev has tabled these three offers to DD for a CF
- 5k acres to Octo (#acres4octo)
- Abi self deletes her province (she can be invited back we don't care)
- Abi publicly apologizes (details to be discussed if they accept)
They've rejected all of these and have stated categorically that they will accept no terms to a CF. Just a blank CF.
As we are the aggrieved party and are prepared to continue this indefinitely, a blank CF is not acceptable to us.
oh... oops. I said war. my bad. The meanie pants meanie-ness that we are perpetrating on each other that involves and exchange of fictional resources consistent with the game mechanics.
There.... all better now?
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Originally Posted by Bishop
The only reason these attacks continue is that we can not move on to war. Knowing we will be razed into. not fair to our team and not fair to the opponent. If we do not continue attacks it will be leaving an advisory at our backs to grow and continue to be an issue, interfering with the 20+ player in Dungeon Dwellers. There has been no real attempt to let us know this can be put behind us from your Kingdom and all attempts made from DD have been denied. So calling us out as "the one griefing " is a bit disingenuous.
I'm just going to say you cardinally wrong about Sheister in my opinion. Not even going to try and explain why. Just suck on the fact that in my eyes he's not the meani-pants lying bully that you are trying to describe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweetiepie
I agree with this, and RoO. And for the record I'm pretty sure Sheister and I were once enemies and have never been friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
C'mon man. Don't ruin a good thing lolQuote:
Originally Posted by khronosschoty
Nor in mine. Tempers flair, but talking with him in a non advisory environment has been pleasant.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
1) 5K acres (we do not give that kind of acreage in war. It is not a real offer_ denied)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
2) Abi has put in a ton of time and energy into this Kingdom, even asking her to delete is an insult none want to give. Even if she would do it if we asked_ denied)
3) an apology? ( really? I have seen the apology given. The only one that is called for. and that was the over sight of not PM the Monarch of the issue at hand_ asked for and done)