-wsk- vs CR round 2 ? 3 ?

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Originally Posted by JusticeLeague

I wonder if WSK is willing to accept your public apology, admitting your mistake-hitting into their war. Your constant argument, justification for CR actions had offended WSK. And now, they are in a much much superior position and even willing to forgo their slim chance of crown; pitting against Emeriti, just for you.

I guess you need to do more than that to resolve this conflict. Hitting into war is really a ' no go'

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Unless you are coss of course.

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Originally Posted by Maximo

I follow you 100%, continued hitting this age does nothing for either side, as both of us are out of the race. I'm talking next age, I also would consider this unfinished, and lacking resolution. It's certainly nothing personal, but when we plan next age goals, right now I'm certainly in the camp to get some revenge rather than attempt a crown run. You also have the same options obviously. I don't want to be unreasonable about the whole thing either. A simple apology and admittance of some hand in wrong doing would be enough for me. (I'm not getting into who made what deal where and under what circumstances). This is not meant as any sort of threat, just where I am coming from.

You can ask Bart, he owed me 1k acres for hitting into cats hostile with Stoners. I never forgot, but since he did admit his hand in the matter, it was water under the bridge. I'm not absolving any of the stuff we did to you in the past, but as long as we are talking feelings. :p.

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But here's the thing, I'll either not be playing, or be stalking you.

You guys have a good roster and potential to compete next age.

We're mostly inactive and afk.

It's a lot easier to disrupt someone's crown run than it is to avoid ones crown run being disrupted.

From where I stand, we have a problem with people like -cRs- having the audacity to say that the deal was valid, but the war didn't count and the winner wasn't determined until a b2b, and then later to claim that the deal never existed and the war wasn't a war.

Me and coss were talking earlier, from his perspective, the deal he was arranging with dubai was clearly under the pretense that the 'winner' for the purpose of the deal was whoever had a better shot of fighting emeriti (clearly WSK after the first war, since they had cows and we didn't), whereas from our perspective it meant the literal war winner.

That's the problem with these type of deals, there's always room for lawyering and bull**** after the fact even if both parties have a clear vision of what the deal meant.

In this particular case with WSK particularly, it reminded me very much of the last time I made a deal with WSK, where a month later without saying a word, they claimed our eoacf was invalid because of one off-target hit in the land for CF deal we made.

So it just looks like another case of someone trying to weasel out of a situation and go against their word.

I think I want to play in CR now! for some reason.

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Originally Posted by JusticeLeague

I wonder if WSK is willing to accept your public apology, admitting your mistake-hitting into their war. Your constant argument, justification for CR actions had offended WSK. And now, they are in a much much superior position and even willing to forgo their slim chance of crown; pitting against Emeriti, just for you.

I guess you need to do more than that to resolve this conflict. Hitting into war is really a ' no go'

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See, I disagree.

I don't really consider anything explicitly allowed by game mechanics to be a no go.

Coss has hit into wars numerous time, with various justifications. Some I'd agree with, some I wouldn't, but I wouldn't conclusively say that he is automatically wrong in all of them by definition for hitting into war

From my perspective, if someone dealbreaks or ****plays someone, and the issue is never resolved, there is no statute of limitations or unwritten rules for how their retaliation is carried out.

If we feel wronged by WSK, I don't see a reason why hitting into war is a no go.

Likewise, if WSK feels wronged by us, they're more than entitled to hit us until EOA.

But neither of those actions resolves the issue, and neither side should expect the other to just see it as resolved because of them.

I don't expect WSK to come out of their war and see the issue as resolved just because a bunch of us argue on the forums.

And I hope they don't expect me to see the issue as resolved just because they hit us until EOA.

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Originally Posted by Meep

It's not like it was just emeriti, Coss was in the other thread bragging about how the war was going too.

Best way to motivate me to get back in a war is to talk crap before it's over.

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Oh, that changes everything! Sorry then.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

Next time I want to win the age I'll accuse Meep of farming out so he drags his war out forever and ruins everyone's sliver of chance for competition. I had respect for you until this post but you are so damn weak!

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What a suprice that a Spartan would respect farming out more then actually -trying- to win a difficult fight :)

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Originally Posted by Shai

What a suprice that a Spartan would respect farming out more then actually -trying- to win a difficult fight :)

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You don't know Spartans well...From the past few ages, I never see Spartans winning a war as underdog. In fact, not any significant war to mention about even when they got their warring crown and honor crown in consecutive ages.
They need the handicap to win, otherwise they would just be contented to farm smaller kingdom, throwing weight around. Then start to cry when action-ed by other top kingdoms, complaining how foul top kingdoms can be.
See how they actually hurl insult and challenging much smaller kingdom really is disgusting. Raze kill smaller kingdoms and brag in forum that they are forced too, they left with no other alternatives.
Perhaps maybe because of all these, the top kingdoms really don't bother about what Spartans do. Because they posed no threat at all. Can bark but cannot bite.

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Originally Posted by JusticeLeague

You don't know Spartans well...From the past few ages, I never see Spartans winning a war as underdog. In fact, not any significant war to mention about even when they got their warring crown and honor crown in consecutive ages.
They need the handicap to win, otherwise they would just be contented to farm smaller kingdom, throwing weight around. Then start to cry when action-ed by other top kingdoms, complaining how foul top kingdoms can be.
See how they actually hurl insult and challenging much smaller kingdom really is disgusting. Raze kill smaller kingdoms and brag in forum that they are forced too, they left with no other alternatives.
Perhaps maybe because of all these, the top kingdoms really don't bother about what Spartans do. Because they posed no threat at all. Can bark but cannot bite.

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Sounds like you know what your talking about to me. ( In other words, agreed!)

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Originally Posted by Shai

What a suprice that a Spartan would respect farming out more then actually -trying- to win a difficult fight :)

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What a surpriSe that Emeriti dogs would respect ruining everyone else's age more than to succumbing to their complaints.

Sparta is the greatest warring KD of the last 5-6 ages, that much is true. We've beaten every opponent on the server bar Emeriti and BB, some of them more than once. However, Sparta with me actively leading conflicts aint the same as me not leading conflicts (same way as BB without Flogger is less of a danger).

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

What a surpriSe that Emeriti dogs would respect ruining everyone else's age more than to succumbing to their complaints.

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#1 Emeriti ruined who's age when?
#2 Shai has never played in Emeriti ( he did play with me in PewPew&Divinity though)

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Sparta is the greatest warring KD of the last 5-6 ages, that much is true. We've beaten every opponent on the server bar Emeriti and BB, some of them more than once. However, Sparta with me actively leading conflicts aint the same as me not leading conflicts (same way as BB without Flogger is less of a danger).

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Yet you've never beaten PI, nor will you get to as they came and went. Lol

#1 I'm referring that he would respect CR for ruining WSK instead of not succumbing to whatever Proteus and gang had to say
#2 Doesn't change the fact that Shai is your typical Absalom dog (to me Judge is an Absalom dog as well - I put them all in the same trashBin)

And you wonder why I never show you any respect (you said we never showed Sparta any respect, but honostly the only one in Sparta ive shown any dis-respect is you)

I should care how? You were disrespectful to me the moment we met.