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19-02-2014, 00:37
Palem

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Sanc wasnt gonna crown, Rage was #1....

Did Rage have a war arranged against an inferior kd? Then I guess Sanctuary had the advantage if they could have warred Simians.
19-02-2014, 00:44
Proteus

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Originally Posted by Palem

Did Rage have a war arranged against an inferior kd? Then I guess Sanctuary had the advantage if they could have warred Simians.

Sanc was like ~50k smaller and there was no WW bonus back then, also it was kinda clear simians preferred hoh as they were a weaker kd and had no cows, sanc ended up doubling simians though simians did put themselves into that 2v1.

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Originally Posted by RemoteAdvisor

When did you put banks with low defense? We strike when it hurts the most. We have one shot for revenge every age before we get taken out and we will play our cards right every age, until AMA apologize for the **** they did to us last age.

therock still butthurt over mercy's cow being farmed? jeff is a good guy but he is much better at IBD/PE/top consulting than utopia.
19-02-2014, 00:55
Palem

Sanc didn't double up. And yes Simians wanted HoH, that was the only kd they had a chance to beat in war. Triple notice still might be the worst move I've ever seen.

Either way, my point stands. Sanc had a lot more growing potential than Rage did.
19-02-2014, 01:11
Crunch

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Originally Posted by Godly

1) CR, zauper, topsy, munk, fook, etc, or myself have never 2v1'ed anyone. Any deal has to go through us. It just wouldn't happen. I care more about my rep than a crown. If they came to me with a plan to 2v1 you, I'd quit on the spot. You know me. Can you recall one single instance where I've done something bad in utopia?
2) This was mainly a joke thread along with all of the other "dibs threads" because you're in the kingdom and the dibs inventor so we thought it was funny although looking back we probably shouldn't have made it. We were planning on serving notice on Jan 1st and seeing what happened (if you were available April 1st). When it was clear that there was no stopping Pyro vs AMA, we:
3) Offered you a deal to war pyro and have *8 days* to recoup to fight us. It wasn't last minute. It was like 1-2 days after this thread was made. How is 8 days vulture? I could rebuild my entire kd in 8 days. BB offered us 8 days after we fought AMA 3 rounds ago and it was universally recognized as "flogger being a nice guy."
Sure the odds weren't much in your favor, but 8 days or 16 days wouldn't have changed it. We had huge sci/gold adv on you and it wouldn't have changed. We earned our better position through diplomacy while you warred. Your complaints that "this is not fair" well duh man.. every fight in utopia isn't always fair. I know that being former Abs and not being used to fighting B2B wars is tough because you usually had someone block, but I've been doing this for 40 rounds now, bro. Man up. You can't just dealbreak when the going gets tough.

Conclusion: not only is there 0 history of CR's leadership of dealbreaking/2v1s, we offered you the deal you wanted. Anyone reading this can note that I would never ever agree to a dealbreak or a 2v1. I hope I've made myself clear.

Logical question: Fair point. I'm not sure of the answer to that question. It did seem from the intel that you would probably lose or narrowly win. I'm not sure why you squandered your chance to win by dealbreaking. Personally there was a small part of me rooting for you guys to pull off the complete round win. Real talk, I would have been the first to congratulate you.

Another logical question, Proteus: When does this current CR team no longer responsible for something from 4 rounds ago? Didn't we pay our dues already 3 rounds ago even though the leaders weren't a part of it and it was just the kd name? Like will we all be 40 years old still arguing about this?

so basically your word is garbage and you can't be trusted... thanks for the admission finally but we already knew this..
19-02-2014, 01:19
Crunch

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Originally Posted by MrCurious

This GB is stupid. KDs hide behind big words, but their reasons for doing it are f..... up. Why this deserves a GB and all the other ****playing from last 4-5 ages didn't is beyond me. Its the only way to beat ama/pb, its that simple.

the GB of ama was planed end of last age beginning of this age. by rage/pyro/CR and friends. even if ama did not wave CR they were still going to GB ama... by dirty rage/pyro/CR they of course brought other degenerates in on the deal ... just listen to the monkey man you all know he can't keep a secret
19-02-2014, 01:20
American Badass

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Originally Posted by Drug

Right, but did u get GBed for refusing to raze any acres, like AMA is getting GBed now? And how do u propose to raze acres for AMA in ongoing conflict, where other side can declare u any moment?

No as we pulled out of the crown race before the GB came, something that Elit could not negotiate on. I don't know why when you left for AMA BS and you expected a GB you are now sticking up for them? You and the rest of AMA seem to change your mood more than a woman on her period. One minute it is this, next it is that. Cello came out with so many stories as to why AMA did what it did and Elit says something completely different. I think you all need to get and stick to one story.

Did AMA say they would not go for the crown? No. Did Elit go and make a public announcement like Drixx did saying AMA won't be competing? No. Is this situation different to last age with pew? Yes. How it it different? We did not deal break a potential crown contender ****ing up their chances. Yes we"farmed" pew but even so none of the other kds acres got effected.
19-02-2014, 01:23
American Badass

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Originally Posted by Proteus

How is it fair for you to compete for ANY crown with donated acres you would have never received had they been using tm attacks as any normal kd that wars to win?

Funny thing all your kd needed to do last age to settle up with top and not let pews war shape charts was to not take WW bonus and use honor instead. I actually spoke with PS about this and he said rbl was ENTITLED to those acres because pew waved them after exploring and farmed their land. So because you played n00 b and got outplayed you are entitled to acres? Sounds more like pewpew paid you acres for a alliance the following age and so you can shape charts for ama and lastly in exchange for honor crown. Its funny how you guys anoned hits on pew elves and protected their honor.

And after that whole work 2/3 your alliance got farmed and destroyed by one kd when you tried to vulture them from Ana advantageous position.

Keep the hypocrisy coming.

Again, Drixx ASKED "what about the NW crown". The people involved in the negotiations was not concerned about the NW crown at all. Drixx didn't hide the fact it was not in the term of the deal.., he was the one that said it!

In regards to pew and us demanding acres and you claiming we played noob. You played noob now in being in a position Havoc can farm acres but you say no? What goes around breh.

Also you can't claim vulture when you beat us. Your core was in a better position than ours but we will forget that yes? You are more experienced? Yes and we admit you are the better kingdom? Yes. Now explain how we vultured you when you are playing a warring game that you had to fight a war AFTER 96 hours EOWCF time when there are kingdoms that go 7-7. .

Y-A-W-N bed time.
19-02-2014, 01:50
Anri

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Originally Posted by Palem

Sanc didn't double up. And yes Simians wanted HoH, that was the only kd they had a chance to beat in war. Triple notice still might be the worst move I've ever seen.

Either way, my point stands. Sanc had a lot more growing potential than Rage did.

Sanc did double up. Because they moved to 2 on meter. After we waited 1h for Sanc to attack more we full waved HoH. Then Sanc waved us into hostile with HoH. 1 hit then no hits for 1h is not a hostile. Thus Sanctuary doubled us because they responded late. This also gave us 0% chance to beat HoH. Like i said before. Just because notice or cf expire with 2 or more kds they both dont have the right to hostile the other kd. It makes it 2 vs 1.

If CR had done it to AMA it might been them that got gbed instead. AMA just to damn stupid to wait things out i guess. But its hard when they themselfs and many others allready justified that kind of ****play.
19-02-2014, 02:00
Palem

I meant "double up" like doubled their acres. Is this not what Proteus meant?
19-02-2014, 02:05
Anri

Tripple notice is best move ever btw. Three kds forced to train up and waste 500 mill gc when only one can fight us. Mmmmm if it only been this easy. Thats the rotten and evil root of this game that allows kds to powerplay. If they dont get to pump they get to gb instead? Its sad how many that still thinks it is okey to gb when deals ends with multiply kds.
19-02-2014, 02:08
Palem

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Originally Posted by Anri

Tripple notice is best move ever btw.

For HoH, yes.
For Simians it was one of the biggest blunders I've ever seen, unless you want to claim that your whole intention was to farm out to HoH and cost abs the crown (which isn't true and we all know it)
19-02-2014, 02:13
Anri

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Originally Posted by Palem

For HoH, yes.
For Simians it was one of the biggest blunders I've ever seen, unless you want to claim that your whole intention was to farm out to HoH and cost abs the crown (which isn't true and we all know it)

Intentions was to have Rage and Sanc waste 400-500 mill gc to train up instead of whore n pump while we targeted HoH 1 on 1. Only possibility to crown was slow the two kds we would not fight. Even then chances was 1% that we could make it. This is why we got extra mad when Sanc waved us when we dealt HoH button. That gave us 0% chance to fight.

Without tripple notice HoH and Rage had free pumped and we had to fight Sanc with larger banks. We had 0 options alone vs three kds. Call us crazy but tripple notice was really our best chance.

This was age 54. Should look at what happens now.
19-02-2014, 02:18
Proteus

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Originally Posted by Palem

I meant "double up" like doubled their acres. Is this not what Proteus meant?

I meant they doubled up on simians, making a 1v1 a 2v1 ;p
19-02-2014, 02:19
Palem

You got mad because jdorje didn't do what you expected him to do, and it cost you. Triple notice opens 3 conflicts. You're lucky only two hit you.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

I meant they doubled up on simians, making a 1v1 a 2v1 ;p

Yes, they certainly DID do that lol
19-02-2014, 02:23
wickedfail

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Originally Posted by Crunch

the GB of ama was planed end of last age beginning of this age. by rage/pyro/CR and friends. even if ama did not wave CR they were still going to GB ama... by dirty rage/pyro/CR they of course brought other degenerates in on the deal ... just listen to the monkey man you all know he can't keep a secret

I feel speculation..any evidence to support this?
19-02-2014, 02:28
Anri

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Originally Posted by Palem

You got mad because jdorje didn't do what you expected him to do, and it cost you. Triple notice opens 3 conflicts. You're lucky only two hit you.

Yes, they certainly DID do that lol

I dont agree. GB is NOT ok just because a cf runs out/expire.

This is the very reason AMA ended up doing what they did. But they also done it to others. Does still not make it right.

It never is. But you think it is ok to gang ppl cause cfs expire and thats cool for you.
19-02-2014, 02:36
scitzo

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Quote Originally Posted by MrCurious View Post
This GB is stupid. KDs hide behind big words, but their reasons for doing it are f..... up. Why this deserves a GB and all the other ****playing from last 4-5 ages didn't is beyond me. Its the only way to beat ama/pb, its that simple.

This is like the funniest comment here~! so, lets say a previous killer is not caught or punish, so in future you can start killing people and hope for no punishment? LOL
19-02-2014, 02:58
Heathcliff

Too much history. too much BS. aint nobody have time for that.

why not discuss about the progress of the GB and future amendments
19-02-2014, 03:00
Crazy Pete

Well it's obvious someone murders them you kill them, then someone kills you for killing their friend, then your friend kills their friend and you keep it going Hatfield-McCoy style!
19-02-2014, 03:01
Runefire

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Originally Posted by Crazy Pete

Well it's obvious someone murders them you kill them, then someone kills you for killing their friend, then your friend kills their friend and you keep it going Hatfield-McCoy style!

Until you have a reality TV show?
19-02-2014, 03:02
Ezzerland

Proteus once played for Sanctuary. Sanctuary has participated in 2v1's in the past. Proteus is now part of AMA leadership, so we're now GBing AMA. True Story.
19-02-2014, 03:03
Crazy Pete

Well you should try to make some money off of it! I mean people are watching rednecks in the swamp "Swamp People" , **** I think it would be an easy sell :D
19-02-2014, 03:28
Palem

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Originally Posted by Runefire

Until you have a reality TV show?

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19-02-2014, 03:48
Lestat

<3 thecock

I trust that Simians wont receive a CF from Elit ever again? They have taken ****s for Elit like 3 ages in a row now and yet he still gives/extends CFs with them.
19-02-2014, 03:54
Chuck

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Originally Posted by Lestat

<3 thecock

I trust that Simians wont receive a CF from Elit ever again? They have taken ****s for Elit like 3 ages in a row now and yet he still gives/extends CFs with them.

Certainly you are intelligent enough to understand that CF's are not given/extended in this game out of generosity. Both sides gain from such agreements. Which is why several kds have decided to take a stand to continue to create value in said agreements.
19-02-2014, 04:06
Lestat

Good call
19-02-2014, 04:57
KuhaN

Me and Realest are requesting cliffs for the last 30 pages or so...

Thanks guys.
19-02-2014, 04:59
Realest

I'm also well versed with memes and other internet follies. Feel free to use gifs and pictures to convey the message if necessary.
19-02-2014, 05:45
Lestat

This is where we are at

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19-02-2014, 05:50
goodz

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Originally Posted by Anri

I dont agree. GB is NOT ok just because a cf runs out/expire.

This is the very reason AMA ended up doing what they did. But they also done it to others. Does still not make it right.

It never is. But you think it is ok to gang ppl cause cfs expire and thats cool for you.

It depends if you consider notice a hostile act :p
19-02-2014, 06:14
Band of Horses

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Originally Posted by Realest

I'm also well versed with memes and other internet follies. Feel free to use gifs and pictures to convey the message if necessary.

Snow white is CR....
http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyM...Five-GIF-1.gif
19-02-2014, 06:45
MrCurious

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Originally Posted by scitzo

This is like the funniest comment here~! so, lets say a previous killer is not caught or punish, so in future you can start killing people and hope for no punishment? LOL

You failed, try again pls. RL has so much relevance here, or not...
19-02-2014, 06:54
Ezzerland

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Originally Posted by Lestat

This is where we are at

http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/...psa4a7bec4.gif

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

Snow white is CR....
http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyM...Five-GIF-1.gif

This is an awesome summation of the last 30 pages.
19-02-2014, 07:08
scitzo

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Quote Originally Posted by scitzo View Post
This is like the funniest comment here~! so, lets say a previous killer is not caught or punish, so in future you can start killing people and hope for no punishment? LOL
You failed, try again pls. RL has so much relevance here, or not...

Would really love to see why i fail. Please elaborate xD
19-02-2014, 07:25
MrCurious

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Originally Posted by scitzo

Would really love to see why i fail. Please elaborate xD

I already explained why convenient policing is bad. If it still escapes you, then i can't do more to help you :)
19-02-2014, 07:32
scitzo

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I already explained why convenient policing is bad. If it still escapes you, then i can't do more to help you :)

So you suggest, everyone should allow any **** play since from last time nothing is done?
19-02-2014, 07:37
dikkiedik

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Originally Posted by Anri

The only thing that will die is provs in AMA =D

I bet you that you are going to claim this as a "victory" against AMA, just as you claimed to have "won" against Havoc when you waved them when they wanted to landdrop.

And no, I don't play in AMA and I don't care about the GB, but you run your mouth off way too much for someone who is as bad as you are. They should put a god damn gag order on you because of all the **** that's coming out of your mouth(keyboard).
19-02-2014, 08:40
Greaser

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Originally Posted by American Badass

If this was true you could have asked Havoc to back off and tell them you'd give them 15-20k acres after your war with Pyro so you can 3/3 the alliance (Like simians agreed to do with Havoc... to have a legit equal war, give acres afterwards and not before). Havoc did "tax" simians but it was what they would have gained pre-war via a wave which would of meant simians warred Pyro at a disadvantage.

Do you and others seriously condone this behavior? To allow a larger kingdom dictate and micro manage wars like an arena for a land tax just because they are bigger? Is this mentality seriously good for the game? Please id like people to chime in on this! Is American badass right or delusional?
19-02-2014, 08:52
viNdict

Make 100 threads with 100 posts but in the end it will still be a dozen of pussy kingdoms jumping on 1 ;)
Why can't you low-intelligence, weak-playing, slow-minded, incompetent war-loosing pricks learn to play? :)
19-02-2014, 08:52
Greaser

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Originally Posted by Spahrep

I keep seeing 'you did this **** play <insert time in past>'.
Its got to stop somewhere, and now is a good of time as any. Age 61 is a clean slate for all, this age has a statement and I think its a positive one for the community as a whole.

This is amusing and rather ignorant if you think the **** play and animosity stops after this age. Even if AMA were to disband this type of play neither started with nor will end with this kingdom. The kingdoms that put aside their differences for this conflict will be back to their own **** playing ways its tried and trued. Someone said it best a few posts back: those who joined in on this GB did it for one reason and that's to keep the sanctity of CF in tact so they can grow w/o conflict until such time best suits them to take advantage of a less fortunate kingdom. People claim to want fair wars but that's a crock of bull. People want advantages to win. Its a game to be won.

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