CR vs AMA

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Originally Posted by Godly

Elit, this thread was not a notice. It was a heads up that we would be noticing you Jan 1st so it would give plenty of time for the 3 kingdoms to figure out what to do with the overlapping CFs. Most kingdoms in your situation would try to work out a deal so you could fight the kd you wanted to fight. You instead refused to negotiate at all. When we eventually gave you a pretty reasonable offer (no acres, just flat out CF extension with the promise that we fight winner 8 days after war), you dealbreak us.

If you are counting "heads up" of notice to be a dealbreak, how did you and Pyro know that you would be warring each other? Didn't someone have to approach the other and say "hey I'm going to notice you Jan 1st will you fight?" Isn't that also a "deal break" in your eyes?

I understand your situation and it sucks that you've had to fight pretty hard this round, but you and BB put yourselves in this spot by warring a ghetto at the start with no CFs. It allowed others to grow larger than you and dictate the terms of the round. Just because it was a hard round doesn't mean you can just dealbreak someone.

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Godly for begin its our age off. Its why we wared ghetto oop. Do you think i dont know how to whore and i will slow my grow for 5k land bonus for 6 days total? I told zauper,maxi and going to say it again. Your play this age is terrible. You cant gain any respect this way and you are part from problem we got power played this age. If you want to play go play dont CF all competitors for 10 weeks and compete who is better farmer. If AMA didn't win his wars vs Pew Pew and Rage atm you will have 0 chances for crown. If Pew Pew have won his war you can be sure rage and pyro will jumped on us for get free acres too and after it all 3 will visited Simians. This way Havoc is complete isolated from all sources from land you will be alone vs 3 bigger ally kds. Im sure you cant win it.
You need to have deeper understand for game and have some basic honor. Your kd have all advantages for win vs any kd in server. Ever if we wared and win pyro (no razes from your frends too) we still had almost 0 chances for win vs havoc. So you risk noting with being cool and say: ok guys war pyro but lets after it you war us if you win. I can gurante you my answer will be yes on propose like this. We have noting to lose from it. Your stupid decline extend cf for free and push us hard killed your relation and most like your age win for noting. You think im happy from it? I preferred all age CR to win because i had much better relation with you over RPP.

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Originally Posted by Anri

And what do you want to say with a CF deal that was worked out between us?
LoL

You had waved us 7 times earlier this age and you dealbroke to try and crown, therefor all deals with AMA was void and we joined the GB machine, because what you do is wrong.

When you give CFs you have self interest, you wanted to grow cows and you wanted time to pump, Simians wanted time to pump aswell. So a CF between us was given.

Not sure what you want with this logg? Its pretty obvious that it states i am no friend of CR and i dont like how they came and took acres from us, the problem you have is that i choosed another word for free acres and called it a tax instead, this is the new **** it seems, i said tax and all of a sudden everyone say they gonna tax people. Get over it dude. Free acres always been given when you cant fight back for new CFs. We had no way to fight CR and clap clap to them for it.

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You dont understand game. After all razes my self interest was to notice other kd and gain acres. We was full trained. CF Simians limit our targets.
About wave OOP its result from you call us out for few days in irc when you was sure Simians is much bigger from AMA and we cant war you now. You used all names for call us. So you got what you wanted :)

Another example for fair play and i stand for what i posted in logs with anri:

[09:15] <Elit> are you rebuild kd
[09:15] <coss> yeh
[09:15] <coss> that's why i am here
[09:15] <coss> on yr6 our cf expires
[09:15] <coss> and just have notice
[09:15] <coss> up to enlarge it at least 2 weeks?
[09:15] <Elit> yes
[09:15] <Elit> not going to vulture kd
[09:15] <coss> cool:D
[09:16] <Elit> ok make it yr8 and 48h notice for now?
[09:16] <coss> yeh
[09:16] <Elit> ok deal
[09:16] <coss> we can make yr10 as well
[09:16] <coss> if u want
[09:16] <Elit> possible we will extend again later
[09:16] <coss> but yr 8 should be ok
[09:16] <coss> ok
[09:16] <coss> sounds good
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Do you see AMA jump Fratzia and vulture them how did Pyro and Havoc? No we did CF.
Do you see AMA jump Havoc past 2 ages after Havoc loss his war from BB? I can name many kds knock on Havoc asking them for free acres after they have loss his war.
Do you see AMA GB sanctuary age after they double hostile us? No they was dead meal and we left them alone.
Did we hit ED or Pew Pew last age when they made run wars from us x2? No we offered both kds cf and moved on.

I can give you many many examples for fair and honorable play from us and can give you many for **** play in return. So if you want to change game to better learn to play proper and stop **** play us only because you cant win in fair 1vs1 run.

"So you risk noting with being cool and say: ok guys war pyro but lets after it you war us if you win."

But we did.. that's exactly the deal we gave you.

I understand more than you think about the game. I understand that sometimes when you want to get a deal done, you have to push the action (notice, or threat of notice). Our play choice this round is our business as yours is yours. I was just commenting on why you were painted into a b2b2b2 scenario from the get go. If pyro or rage had beaten you, we would have played things differently.

But when you start playing utopia where "I don't like you so I'll dealbreak you," thats the problem at hand. What you did a few days ago is so bad that I literally thought Bishop was trolling me with an alternate utopia when I got the text message. I never thought you'd let your kingdom be controlled by noobs like Proteus and ruin your rep like this. My advice to you is to get rid of whoever came up with this plan, apologize, and hope that the rest of utopia can forgive you. I'm fairly forgiving, so I would be the first one to do it.

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Originally Posted by Elit

You dont understand game. After all razes my self interest was to notice other kd and gain acres. We was full trained. CF Simians limit our targets.
About wave OOP its result from you call us out for few days in irc when you was sure Simians is much bigger from AMA and we cant war you now. You used all names for call us. So you got what you wanted :)

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Wave OOP? It was not OOP and the wave itself was made by no one else but you, the most greedy person in the game, no balls to wait for a real war or give loc, let us give button, set a war up, no you had to use the situation, because i explained this before for you. Its in your nature to do dishonorable acts. Its just the way you are. And when you give CFs you give them only out of self-interest, you needed to prep for Pyro/CR thus you gave Simians a CF just incase we wanted to FSU you. We saw easy that a ghetto easy FSUed you instead. This is THE ONLY reason you were willing to give a cease fire so easy. I knew you would give it, because you needed prep time and we wanted to pump. So it suited us both very good to have the CF.
If you like you say your self interest was to notice other kds then why did you not notice them, why did you dealbreak them instead? haha wtf

Anything you say is yet another lie

Still waiting for Godly to explain how are they having any chance at crown now with Pyro hitting for tms into the war :)

So elit if you like CR why dont you raze pyro banks? :)

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Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter

Still waiting for Godly to explain how are they having any chance at crown now with Pyro hitting for tms into the war :)

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If I cared about crowns I'd have quit Shadowlight in round 10 when people stopped caring, joined PBs instead of andn00bs, and joined an absalom kingdom instead of ZZ/Inso and kissed Elit's ass to join AMA instead of sticking with flogger once some of the better dreams players joined. I'd probably have the most crowns in utopia right now. People who know me in real life know that I'm not a frontrunner -- not my style. I play to play. Like I said earlier, I'm glad that this actually happened because utopia needed this. I'd trade 50 crowns for a stance against dealbreaking because honestly I've had enough of it.

So to answer your question: I really don't care how many times Pyro TMs into you. I stayed out of negotiations on this effort because 1) people don't generally like me 2) I didn't care about the terms so long as there was the effort.

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Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter

Still waiting for Godly to explain how are they having any chance at crown now with Pyro hitting for tms into the war :)

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-75% gains on Pyro
+ Pool of Pyro

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+ No penalties in war for CR
+ Potential WW land bonus for CR
+ Pool of CR

My guess is CR will end up with more acres in the end. Time they both use pool etc.

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Originally Posted by Godly

"So you risk noting with being cool and say: ok guys war pyro but lets after it you war us if you win."
But we did.. that's exactly the deal we gave you.

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No you didn't. You told us there is not CF extend and munk offered for few days lame deals to cello complete not acceptable. During this time our cows got complete fuked and all kd trained to deal with it and our chances to win for real vs pyro drooped. So if we win we wont win big. Its why you offered us deal what secure your n1 but was so late for us to get fair war with pyro too.
We had chat with pyro and there was some lame deal offer from them make chances kd win very high but its like pull pew pew...
I told my kd: donate free acres in hostile to pyro and raze retal Havoc after so we can keep all legit, but after vote pool ppl decide other. You need to understand its not my solo decision. If there is over half kd ppl ready to do what we did there is reason and every one from us don't support deal break. You simple pushed us so hard with no left back door for proper solution in time.

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Originally Posted by Elit

No you didn't. You told us there is not CF extend and munk offered for few days lame deals to cello complete not acceptable. During this time our cows got complete fuked and all kd trained to deal with it and our chances to win for real vs pyro drooped. So if we win we wont win big. Its why you offered us deal what secure your n1 but was so late for us to get fair war with pyro too.
We had chat with pyro and there was some lame deal offer from them make chances kd win very high but its like pull pew pew...
I told my kd: donate free acres in hostile to pyro and raze retal Havoc after so we can keep all legit, but after vote pool ppl decide other. You need to understand its not my solo decision. If there is over half kd ppl ready to do what we did there is reason and every one from us don't support deal break. You simple pushed us so hard with no left back door for proper solution in time.

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Elit, how about losing gracefully? Or trying to overcome a hardship to win big? That's always an option isn't it? Are you that ridiculous that it's either win or break the rules?

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Originally Posted by Elit

No you didn't. You told us there is not CF extend and munk offered for few days lame deals to cello complete not acceptable. During this time our cows got complete fuked and all kd trained to deal with it and our chances to win for real vs pyro drooped. So if we win we wont win big. Its why you offered us deal what secure your n1 but was so late for us to get fair war with pyro too.
We had chat with pyro and there was some lame deal offer from them make chances kd win very high but its like pull pew pew...
I told my kd: donate free acres in hostile to pyro and raze retal Havoc after so we can keep all legit, but after vote pool ppl decide other. You need to understand its not my solo decision. If there is over half kd ppl ready to do what we did there is reason and every one from us don't support deal break. You simple pushed us so hard with no left back door for proper solution in time.

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What you did seems all of a sudden much more lame when you have majority voting for dealbreak in your KD.
Its also nice you put the blame on the rest of your KD, because let me guess, you were away playing chess and had absolutely NOTHING to do with this. It was a voting, you, dictator Elit, had no say over your own KD.

Stop pulling lies

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Originally Posted by Godly

"So you risk noting with being cool and say: ok guys war pyro but lets after it you war us if you win."

But we did.. that's exactly the deal we gave you.

I understand more than you think about the game. I understand that sometimes when you want to get a deal done, you have to push the action (notice, or threat of notice). Our play choice this round is our business as yours is yours. I was just commenting on why you were painted into a b2b2b2 scenario from the get go. If pyro or rage had beaten you, we would have played things differently.

But when you start playing utopia where "I don't like you so I'll dealbreak you," thats the problem at hand. What you did a few days ago is so bad that I literally thought Bishop was trolling me with an alternate utopia when I got the text message. I never thought you'd let your kingdom be controlled by noobs like Proteus and ruin your rep like this. My advice to you is to get rid of whoever came up with this plan, apologize, and hope that the rest of utopia can forgive you. I'm fairly forgiving, so I would be the first one to do it.

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Godly its funny because I have a history of being in leadership of very good kds: Sanc, Rage, and now AMA and still have more crowns than you from actually LEADING myself than spending entire age forums like you do. I guess all these diverse top leaders dorje/ASF/elit all have something in common, acknowledging me as knowing my **** and you as a forum n00v. Your prov crown was bs because first of all no one cares about prov crown, second of all you got it from dealbreaking abs cows when you gbed and sat in vm all age.

When you win age leading kd yourself come talk to me, until them you are beneath me.

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Originally Posted by wickedfail

-75% gains on Pyro
+ Pool of Pyro

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+ No penalties in war for CR
+ Potential WW land bonus for CR
+ Pool of CR

My guess is CR will end up with more acres in the end. Time they both use pool etc.

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Have you noticed the 25k acres advantage of Pyro? Have you checked CR's gains recently compared to Pyro's? I doubt so.

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Originally Posted by Anri

What you did seems all of a sudden much more lame when you have majority voting for dealbreak in your KD.
Its also nice you put the blame on the rest of your KD, because let me guess, you were away playing chess and had absolutely NOTHING to do with this. It was a voting, you, dictator Elit, had no say over your own KD.

Stop pulling lies

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Its not first time when we need to make major decision im ask ppl in kd to voice his opinion. Im democratic dictator ;)

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Godly its funny because I have a history of being in leadership of very good kds: Sanc, Rage, and now AMA and still have more crowns than you from actually LEADING myself than spending entire age forums like you do. I guess all these diverse top leaders dorje/ASF/elit all have something in common, acknowledging me as knowing my **** and you as a forum n00v. Your prov crown was bs because first of all no one cares about prov crown, second of all you got it from dealbreaking abs cows when you gbed and sat in vm all age.

When you win age leading kd yourself come talk to me, until them you are beneath me.

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Proteus, I've been in leadership of every kingdom I've played in (except Dreams round 50) since Shadowlight round 4. That's 56 rounds (minus a few rounds I took off in the 30s) so let's call it 50. You haven't even played 30 rounds. The difference between you and I is that I can accept that I am not in charge of any kingdom 100%. I like it that way mainly due to lack of time and I don't like managing people. I prefer to have others present problems to me and give my opinion on it. This doesn't make me beneath you because utopia is a team game. Zauper is the leader of our kingdom, but he will admit that I'm way better at utopia than he is. He just has way better leadership skills than I do. Once you can understand that different people require different roles, maybe you can learn that just because you are in charge doesn't mean that you are the brightest guy in the room.

Lets have a vote what people care more about; Proteus' crowns leading or Godly's province crown. I'll willing to wager none gives a f**king **** about your crowns Proteus. It's unbecoming of a winner to bring up his few wins a couple of times, let alone a billion times like you do. Get over yourself.

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Originally Posted by Godly

Proteus, I've been in leadership of every kingdom I've played in (except Dreams round 50) since Shadowlight round 4 when i was ~15 years old. That's 56 rounds (minus a few rounds I took off in the 30s) so let's call it 50. You haven't even played 30 rounds. The difference between you and I is that I can accept that I am not in charge of any kingdom 100%. I like it that way mainly due to lack of time and I don't like managing people. I prefer to have others present problems to me and give my opinion on it. This doesn't make me beneath you because utopia is a team game. Zauper is the leader of our kingdom, but he will admit that I'm way better at utopia than he is. He just has way better leadership skills than I do. Once you can understand that different people require different roles, maybe you can learn that just because you are in charge doesn't mean you are the brightest guy in the room.

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Elit is the brightest guy in the room and I accept that and ASF was in Rage yet I made my own decisions and crowned with them. I don't care how much time you have, I probably have less time than you do and don't make excuses. Being in "council" vs leading a kd full time yourself are two different things. Also I don't care about zauper nor do I think very highly of his abilities. Again when you monarch a kd and win crowns talk to me otherwise sit down and shut up because you have nothing to say to me.

Also being leadership in zz/inso who are ghettos doesnt really count. Also if you were on my level youd have won crowns in the 50s while being the main leader but you didnt.....

Can we have more updates on the war and less personality clashes?

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Originally Posted by Minty

Lets have a vote what people care more about; Proteus' crowns leading or Godly's province crown. I'll willing to wager none gives a f**king **** about your crowns Proteus. It's unbecoming of a winner to bring up his few wins a couple of times, let alone a billion times like you do. Get over yourself.

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I actually didnt but when a joke like godly mouth of the forums calls me out with his bs he will get schooled.

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Originally Posted by Nim

Can we have more updates on the war and less personality clashes?

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Its a gangbang not a war.

You guys are at like an 8, need you to be at like a 7.

Why dont you two cuties just whip it out and get it over with?

ON topic:

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Originally Posted by Nim

Can we have more updates on the war and less personality clashes?

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AMA is ofc getting hammered hard, down ~50k acres and ~5mil nw. Only AMA knows if they will wd at minimum, and the fair play team knows if they will continue hitting AMA or not if they do.

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Originally Posted by Folle

Why dont you two cuties just whip it out and get it over with?

ON topic:


AMA is ofc getting hammered hard, down ~50k acres and ~5mil nw. Only AMA knows if they will wd at minimum, and the fair play team knows if they will continue hitting AMA or not if they do.

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I am guessing it it will go on. As Proteus likes to say, everyone starts at 400 acres. So they can all restart from there too ;)

71 pages...come on

Godly's CRARP is not above replacement level

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Originally Posted by Nim

Can we have more updates on the war and less personality clashes?

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Is PewPew against of fairplay? Or why they don't help their alliance mates?

Proteus's CRARP sits at -1.5

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Originally Posted by Drug

Is PewPew against of fairplay? Or why they don't help their alliance mates?

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Its different Pew Pew for sure. Maybe they are only honest kd in all this crap and know how lame is this GB and its why stay away.
Time will show but binbin chances atm for crowns are good ;)

crap 72 pages... i bet on 61-70 pages :(

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Also id appreciate if you stop calling RBL Rage...Rage was ASF's kd who then transitioned it over to me when I became monarch and during all of these times the kd was always a top crown contender and one of best warring/whoring kds on server. RBL is not a crown contender nor a warring kd and trying to call them rage is just an insult.

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TBF ASF gave it to Drixx like he gave it to you. I think ASF wanted us to use the Rage tag and it was Drixx that wants to be known as RBL.

On Topic, AMA has had 4 PKed so far. :

** Kingdom news report **
For the time from February 1 of YR9 till March 6 of YR9 - 30 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]


** Summary **
Total attacks made: 70 (21,562 acres)
-- Traditional march: 60 (19,956 acres)
-- Ambush: 2 (401 acres)
-- Conquest: 7 (1,205 acres)
-- Learn: 1
-- Uniques: 23
Total attacks suffered: 654 (43,355 acres)
-- Traditional march: 195 (43,033 acres)
-- Ambush: 2 (322 acres)
-- Raze: 399 (6,519 acres)
-- Failed: 58 (8.9% failure)
-- Uniques: 236

** The kingdom of AMA **
Total land exchanged: -21,793 (70/654)
+8,453 An unknown province (25/0)
+708 Avian tact (1 [1]/0)
+701 Mar Sara (5 [3]/3)
+583 Captquain Bgrognorbd (7 [3]/4)
+578 not enough for me (1 [1]/42)
+268 They Call Me Mister (1 [1]/3)
+244 SoI Invictus (1 [1]/0)
+199 Crazy_Pete Laughs at CR (1 [1]/0)
+73 Woah inactive (1 [1]/1)
-177 Epic fail (3 [1]/3)
-538 Forlorn Palace (2 [1]/4)
-699 The Walking Dead (2 [1]/4)
-888 Bieber4ever (0/5)
-1,104 Alonso (0/3)
-1,172 Taylor Swift (0/3)
-1,211 Zyra (2 [1]/7)
-1,302 Air 23 Jordan (0/2)
-1,578 Erza Scarlet (9 [3]/23)
-2,545 Ultima Ratio Regum (1 [1]/3)
-4,716 Im so fluffy (8 [3]/109)
-6,691 BATMAN (0/125)
-8,158 Mattress (0/181)
-9,340 Vashta Nerada (0/129)


** The kingdom of Havoc **
Total land exchanged: +6,999 (146/69)
+2,173 He got struck by lightning (6 [3]/0)
+1,992 the rest under his bed (8 [3]/1)
+1,592 Hes out of sit time (8 [3]/0)
+1,236 His gold turned to lead (3 [3]/0)
+1,196 Help him help him (5 [3]/0)
+953 then QQed on the forum (3 [3]/0)
+931 Fireballed to ten (3 [3]/0)
+930 Burned by an arsonist (6 [3]/1)
+869 bunch of crappy land hits (6 [3]/0)
+835 Then drowned in a storm (7 [3]/0)
+807 A tiny halfling stole (8 [3]/0)
+645 Fell into a pitfall (2 [2]/0)
+533 An unknown province (2/0)
+527 He was hit by a meteor (9 [3]/1)
+431 and bounced by a soldier ball (7 [3]/2)
+349 Got run over by a (10 [3]/3)
+175 where you went Im gonna say (8 [3]/3)
-82 Thats cool but if they ask (11 [3]/5)
-568 had a couple nightmares (0/1)
-622 And ways to say he died (10 [3]/11)
-2,056 Got caught in a tornado (11 [3]/18)
-2,857 his peasants revolted (3 [3]/7)
-2,990 made chaste by mystic (10 [3]/16)


** The kingdom of Pyro **
Total land exchanged: +14,791 (105/2)
+6,806 An unknown province (28/0)
+1,604 17 how hard you hit (9 [3]/0)
+1,495 10 to your knees (4 [3]/0)
+1,384 02 something you already know (2 [2]/0)
+916 25 We did it (5 [2]/0)
+822 03 The world aint (1 [1]/0)
+736 06 and nasty place (3 [3]/0)
+627 18 Its about how (3 [2]/0)
+485 24 Yo Adrian (5 [2]/0)
+359 08 how tough you are (3 [1]/1)
+251 12 permanently if you let it (9 [3]/0)
+132 11 and keep you there (2 [2]/0)
+75 20 hit and keep moving (5 [3]/0)
+75 09 it will beat you (7 [2]/0)
+60 07 I dont care (5 [2]/0)
+45 04 all sunshine and rainbows (3 [3]/0)
+45 23 keep moving forward (3 [1]/0)
+30 13 You me or nobody (3 [1]/0)
+30 22 you can take and (2 [1]/0)
+30 14 is gonna hit as (2 [1]/0)
+15 16 But it aint about (1 [1]/0)
+12 05 Its a very mean (1 [1]/0)


** The kingdom of Simians **
Total land exchanged: +3 (144/1)
+150 LuckyShot (11 [3]/0)
+135 Oh No its HIM (9 [3]/0)
+135 No alarms anymore for me (12 [3]/0)
+123 luvulongtime (8 [3]/0)
+120 Woof bloody woof (9 [3]/0)
+117 Paul Walker (9 [3]/0)
+107 Blood and Sand (9 [2]/0)
+105 Help ME Im defenseless (9 [3]/0)
+105 The Mentalist (8 [2]/0)
+105 Cheese Pie (8 [2]/0)
+93 Madara Uchiha (7 [3]/0)
+90 it means no worries (6 [2]/0)
+90 Interesting Times (8 [2]/0)
+90 Friesian (8 [2]/0)
+75 FazeBook (5 [2]/0)
+75 Queen of Blades (6 [2]/0)
+60 I eat elves for breakfast (4 [2]/0)
+45 burundukos (3 [3]/0)
+45 Rosso (3 [2]/0)
+30 arghh RORO (2 [2]/0)
+15 Justin Bieber (1 [1]/0)


** The kingdom of Rage **
Total land exchanged: NO CHANGE (173/1)
+154 24 HEe3xfWfkG8 (1 [1]/0)
+150 17 Dl96dXxZXvU (12 [3]/0)
+150 02 OaGSi1YTA-E (12 [3]/0)
+150 01 WXafy1n9cVY (10 [3]/0)
+135 22 PSKQ3ZNQ_O8 (12 [3]/0)
+135 21 Fkx8Jyrf6bk (12 [3]/0)
+135 11 oOlDewpCfZQ (10 [3]/0)
+135 07 uVOn_JXo2Jw (12 [3]/0)
+116 19 gUvROoYft1k (11 [3]/0)
+105 03 wB0hg4_JH0I (10 [3]/0)
+90 12 bDRTzmuwMnQ (8 [2]/0)
+90 05 HilAVhm3BqI (6 [2]/0)
+90 23 jofNR_WkoCE (8 [2]/0)
+90 20 J---aiyznGQ (8 [2]/0)
+75 15 D4NubXXg5Rk (6 [2]/0)
+75 10 GF8aaTu2kg0 (6 [2]/0)
+75 09 ImIa_5awDFg (7 [2]/0)
+75 16 QKcxhQZxvdw (7 [2]/0)
+75 06 26YLehuMydo (5 [2]/0)
+45 14 hHUbLv4ThOo (4 [1]/0)
+35 04 4QAlt4Sfl7Q (4 [1]/0)
+30 25 avaSdC0QOUM (2 [1]/0)
+15 An unknown province (1/0)


** The kingdom of Fair Play +1 **
Total land exchanged: NO CHANGE (37/0)
+152 Drip (10 [2]/0)
+108 Morning Dew (7 [2]/0)
+85 Bugs in the Rug (5 [2]/0)
+75 Speed Bumps (5 [1]/0)
+64 gma (4 [2]/0)
+45 Scabies (3 [2]/0)
+15 Steed (1 [1]/0)
+15 SyFy (2 [1]/0)


** The kingdom of Fair Play +2 **
Total land exchanged: NO CHANGE (22/2)
+75 An unknown province (5/0)
+65 Stonehouse (6 [2]/0)
+59 192 Nausikaa (5 [1]/0)
+47 Dangerous Asteroid (4 [2]/0)
+30 Killer Pannstarr (2 [1]/0)
+20 Sick And Tired (1 [1]/0)
+19 4 juno (1 [1]/0)


** The kingdom of Fair Play +3 **
Total land exchanged: NO CHANGE (1/0)
- chart watching prov (1/0)


** The kingdom of Fair Play +4 **
Total land exchanged: NO CHANGE (1/0)
+15 Tbarker (1 [1]/0)


** The kingdom of Fair Play +5 **
Total land exchanged: NO CHANGE (1/1)
+15 arachnid (2 [1]/0)


** The kingdom of Fair Play +6 **
Total land exchanged: NO CHANGE (1/0)
+15 PACINO (1 [1]/0)


** The kingdom of Fair Play +7 **
Total land exchanged: NO CHANGE (2/0)
+30 liger (2 [1]/0)


** The kingdom of Fair Play +8 **
Total land exchanged: NO CHANGE (14/1)
+30 Son of a Perra x3 (2 [1]/0)
+30 Orc City (2 [1]/0)
+30 Devilands (2 [1]/0)
+15 sweet revenge (1 [1]/0)
+15 coming_after_you (1 [1]/0)
+15 You get what you give (2 [1]/0)
+15 WInged Beast (2 [1]/0)
+15 The Opium Hut (1 [1]/0)
+15 RustyStandsStrong (1 [1]/0)
+15 Hello Goodbye (1 [1]/0)


** Highlights **
Total aid packets sent
40 packets

Most aid packets sent by
Alonso: 8 packets.

Most aid packets received by
not enough for me: 15 packets.

Most land gained in a single tradmarch
They Call Me Mister: 797 acres.

Most land lost in a single tradmarch
Ultima Ratio Regum: 1,450 acres.

February 1 of YR9 - War declared by Havoc

lol 508 oow hits and 4 pk's... yeah, sounds like a fair reaction.

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Originally Posted by Pendel1

How long this raze kill will last? I think ama lost enough already so why not let them fight CR?

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because ama will destroy CR 1on 1 just like ama destroyed fake rage who was much bigger and pew which was bigger.. ama would destroy every kd in that crapy alliance and the all fake fair gamers in fake rage wont have that.. so we have their GB... an absolute joke ..

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Originally Posted by ZodZilla

lol 508 oow hits and 4 pk's... yeah, sounds like a fair reaction.

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Dealbreaking in the top should be dealt with in a draconian way so that it is never beneficial to do so.

So yes, it does sound like a fair reaction. Now all of these KDs need to just do the exact same thing every time someone dealbreaks.

Who said Pyro were gaining less than CR? 33k acres difference already :D. I still bet my money on Pyro winning the age :).

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Originally Posted by Crunch

because ama will destroy CR 1on 1 just like ama destroyed fake rage who was much bigger and pew which was bigger.. ama would destroy every kd in that crapy alliance and the all fake fair gamers in fake rage wont have that.. so we have their GB... an absolute joke ..

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Yep, you totally could beat CR 1 on 1, that's why you dealbroke, because you didn't know they'd farm you out.

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Originally Posted by Crunch

because ama will destroy CR 1on 1 just like ama destroyed fake rage who was much bigger and pew which was bigger.. ama would destroy every kd in that crapy alliance and the all fake fair gamers in fake rage wont have that.. so we have their GB... an absolute joke ..

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yes, your the joke. One of the guys that voted for dealbreak in AMA?

I dont think the arrogance from AMA will help them very at this point.
Like drixx explained AMA was given a way out before GB started and they rejected it.

I don't know why people argue so much about deserving. In the end one kingdom wins. Whoever it is deserves it regardless of how they get it!

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Originally Posted by Pendel1

How long this raze kill will last? I think ama lost enough already so why not let them fight CR?

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We will NOT promote deal breaking at all. Elit is yet to come and speak to us.

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Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter

Have you noticed the 25k acres advantage of Pyro? Have you checked CR's gains recently compared to Pyro's? I doubt so.

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I bet CR has 5-8k pool advantage.
What would WW bonus be? 10k?

So CR is 5-7k acres behind?

You honestly think Pyro will be able to keep up acre for acre now that the full 75% has kicked in? CR will eventually overtake them. It may not happen until war is over + we know exactly how much are in each pools, and when they are used etc. But CR will be bigger than Pyro.

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Originally Posted by Meep

Yep, you totally could beat CR 1 on 1, that's why you dealbroke, because you didn't know they'd farm you out.

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yes ama can totally beat CR 1 on 1 any time... and although you are too scared to fight 1 on 1 this age you will be destroyed in every war with ama until you disband