Exploiting bugs was against the rules last I checked. No?
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Exploiting bugs was against the rules last I checked. No?
since the thread in the bug report was deleted:
You don't seem to have a firm grasp of what logic is.Quote:
Originally Posted by divinorum
1. They have 33% protection through kd nw difference
2. Due to 1 they will also benefit from higher gb protection
3. This is not enough for them, so they attempt to use the game mechanic that prevents warring to also be able to outhit the bigger kd. Is the point of the mechanic to discourage excessive hitting outside of your nw range, or to empower topfeeding? I don't believe it to be the latter, and so when it's being used for such anyway, it's abuse in my book. Not saying it's something awful they should be deleted for, but it still makes them look like hypocrites.
Instead of simply retalling and enjoying higher gains and using that as leverage in their diplomatic effort, they chose to attempt a power play. They don't deserve any sympathy, and have themselves done more to attempt game mechanics abuse than Sonata did.
And stop pretending like you know anything about me. I've been power played more than once this age already, and I'm not whining about it in the forum.
Who says it's a bug? You think Sonata should just ignore the button because them having it in the first place could be a bug? This is hardly something to be so upset about. Gb prot can be abused through just having friends help you, this "bug" actually takes another kd giving you the button.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catwalk
i blame Realest for this humongous zit I developed at the bridge of my nose.
I think in games where people need a handicap to compete is useless. Just like golf. The small people already have way too much handicap help. Try using excel, test your ideas and learn the game, it's time better spent then crying. All that does is wet your cheeks.
After preemptively spawning 4 out of the top 5 WORST ideas in utopian history. Almost single handedly being ABS's #1 and only fluffer/supporter. xLog fanatic, Mult Fanatic, and otherwise being known for admitting to breaking rules in the forums....Quote:
Originally Posted by Catwalk
Do you really think now is a good time to cast a sideways glare at, really, anyone who exploits a bug? Let alone the fact Sonata is neither cheating, nor exploiting a bug.
Fact remains that these are simple game mechanics... and nubs need learn them. One way or another. They picked a fight with a WAY better KD... guess what... that was fairly stupid no matter which way you look at it.
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Case in point... I now remember how I got this sig.... btw... Thank's FailWalk...
Sonata probably has unfriendly relations with another big kd, and is using this fw to LL them.
If that in fact isnt the case and what has happened, Id like to add, nubs shouldnt give bigger Kingdoms the button. If you guys look around the server you will see plenty of bigger Kingdoms that have warred > 60% smaller Kingdoms. It does not matter that it is sonata. I dont see any rage threads about any other Kingdoms that have warred smaller.
It all goes back to not being a nub and not biting off more than you can chew.
Always going to be a fine line. Dont hit larger kingdoms. You will always get stomped.
Let's take the drivel one piece at a time:
Subjective BSQuote:
After preemptively spawning 4 out of the top 5 WORST ideas in utopian history.
Factual BS, as I'm neither fluffer nor supporter. I haven't really talked much about Abs here or anywhere else, you seem to be misinformed.Quote:
Almost single handedly being ABS's #1 and only fluffer/supporter
Baseless accusation taken out of thin airQuote:
xLog fanatic
Where do you get this nonsense from?Quote:
Mult Fanatic
That one sounds interesting. What are you referring to?Quote:
and otherwise being known for admitting to breaking rules in the forums....
Also, this is blatantly off topic. Bishop, please do your thing I know you want to. As for the rest:
They have already owned up to cheating, and I don't see how this is not exploiting a bug. Are you suggesting that removing the declaration range limit was an intentional feature? Or claiming ignorance, which I suppose works. I just had a look a wiki and it's as useless as ever, so that actually is a good argument since we have nothing useful to refer to.Quote:
Let alone the fact Sonata is neither cheating, nor exploiting a bug.
GB protection abuse has nothing to do with this discussion, as it's not a bug. The code functions exactly as intended. I disagree with those intentions and it'll hopefully be changed, but it is not a bug. Incidentally, I disagree with the Abs stance on this matter. Is there no documentation anywhere that the declaration range is 50%-200%?Quote:
Originally Posted by Luc
Firstly, if your going to pin this on sonata, I suggest you look at the rest of the server, and the amount of Kingdoms that have something like this on their KD page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catwalk
Average Opponent Relative Size 66%
Because lots of kingdoms this age are being forced to deal with dumbass nubs.
If this war is real, as it is claimed to be, you cant just punish sonata because they are top, you have to punish all the mid level Kingdoms, and ghettos for it too.
Why are you even still here?
Jobolob, the difference between 66% and 38% is that 66% is above 50% and 38% is below 50%. This is a bug. Where do you see me running my mouth or blowing off steam about this? I'm simply arguing that this is a bug, and I don't see any argument put forth that it isn't.
This is such a nice feature.
Maybe it won't be that difficult to find war this age.
I never said it was a bug, I just used it as an example of something you could be upset about because it can be abused more or less easily, unlike what is currently being discussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catwalk
There is no documentation saying S&B mean to have this feature carried into the new code. I would guess they mean to, but just haven't gotten around to it yet, but unless they clearly state that intention this should not be considered a bug just yet. Until they let us know (and yes, I think it's valid bringing it up as a possible bug) you shouldn't be talking about breaking the rules. Just to be preemptive: no, I don't agree that this feature is a no brainer at all. Smaller kd's don't need to outhit, so they don't need to give the button to the bigger kd ever. That's not saying it's necessarily a bad feature, just that it really shouldn't be necessary if people have brains. Ie. there's no reason to assume that S&B would have to bring it over.
Btw, 66% on the kd page can still mean you warred someone smaller than 50%. More than 1 war etc...
Yes Luc I know that. My point still stands, there are lots of Kingdoms out there with very low nw opponents.
I suggest you read again, nowhere was it suggested that Sonata does cheat. I don't understand Catwalk, our members don't slander you on these boards, why do you have to blame our entire kingdom for cheating?
seems a tad unfair don't you think? ;)
Was aimed at Catwalk. He seemed to think that 66% means you never warred someone beneath 50% of your size.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jobolob