Best Kingdom ever?

Seasons, Dirty- is my favourite monarch!

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Originally Posted by Shockwave

first of all, everyone has cheated in some way or another. back in the day, mehul considered IRC cheating but said he couldn't do anything about it. secondly, i never played in brute flutterby, i played in all the above kds; i was mostly just saying hi to anyone poking around as i've been gone for a while. BF was very good, <3 cyrax

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Wrong. Only the cheaters cheated. I've played this game since age 8 and have never played in a kingdom that required me to do anything that was against the rules. Didn't matter if it was Mehuls rules or S&B's rules.

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Originally Posted by Shockwave

High and mighty palem has never cheated! Highly doubtful. ever gotten info for a friend? trade before trading was legal? belong to an alliance? used anything other than in game forums to communicate? asked someone who was technically not inactive, but not active enough for you to leave your kd because they didn't want to put in the time you wanted them to? i could go on and on with ways that have in the past been against the rules or wishes of the developers of the game. things that they considered cheating and unfair. and i highly doubt you're not guilty of one of these many things. so just because you think you're not cheating, doesn't mean that you really aren't. so please go back to your ghetto and shut the **** up.

syntico: i <3 u...pansies was pretty good but i didn't get to play there long under sid =(

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I'll answer the question for you. NOPE. Never have done any of those things or belonged to any alliance. That's why we were the 'ghettos' and the cheating kingdoms were the 'TOP' that you all hold in such high regard. That's why I take a piss on them every time I see these cheating kingdoms give themselves high praise.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Rules and dev's wishes aren't the same thing. Alliances aren't cheating. Outside communication is not cheating. So doing those things does not make one a cheater, so don't include those reasons in the cheating conversation. Just sayin'.

Hai Shockie :)

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Forced use of outside communications was always against the rules in the days of Mehul. Same with Alliances... he just gave-up trying to police all you cheaters all the time. Pretty sad that you all couldn't play by the rules just to stroke your own egos.

Mehul gave up trying to impose unwanted and ineffectual rules. I don't see how he ever thought they would work. I get what you're doing Fates, saying that because you didnt cheat you are better and more accomplished than the top kingdoms, who you believe cheated. Here's the thing, you have no proof they cheated. Repeating accusations ad nauseum without evidence gets real old, real fast.

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Originally Posted by Fates Warning

Forced use of outside communications was always against the rules in the days of Mehul. Same with Alliances... he just gave-up trying to police all you cheaters all the time. Pretty sad that you all couldn't play by the rules just to stroke your own egos.

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It is not about egos. It is about effectiveness. And as you repeat like a parrot same thing the answer is coming repeteadly: nobody forced anybody ever to use outside communication. That is idiotic to say and a huge bull****. Try to force me over the internet to do ANYTHING. Your arguments are so flawed that they smell like no-thinking, from 7 blocks away.

Again, PLEASE DO force me over the internet to take my shoes off, or turn my radio off, of wear a hat, or to sign up to whatever site you seem to like.... if you can. I dare you! I double dare you!

So, to conclude the huge stinky bull**** you splashed here, people were kicked out of kingdoms by the DDD rule and they still are, not because they don't use that or this or whatever, but because every kingdom has a playing style and personality, and if you fit in, you will stay, if you don't fit in, you're out. Simple as that. It is and always was absolutely legal to start intra-kingdom conspiracy and war for whatever reason you wanted, or no reason at all. The lines from the guide are still famous, so LOL @ your nonsense.

An about alliances: Adhesion is human nature. You can fight against it but you won't win. Ever. Mehul realized that, some morons don't, even today.

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Originally Posted by Bishop

Mehul gave up trying to impose unwanted and ineffectual rules. I don't see how he ever thought they would work. I get what you're doing Fates, saying that because you didnt cheat you are better and more accomplished than the top kingdoms, who you believe cheated. Here's the thing, you have no proof they cheated. Repeating accusations ad nauseum without evidence gets real old, real fast.

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I get where Fates is coming from. While I would never say that I was better than the top kds, because I was most certainly not, I certainly did the best with what I had,the way the game originally intended, and that's something that no top kd can say.

And no proof? C'mon Bish. Idk about Fates, but my biggest beef with top kds was trading and that's something that just about every top kd, prior to it's legalization, has fully admitted to. I know you guys didn't consider it cheating amongst yourselves, but it was still against the rules whether you acknowledged it or not.

You cannot prove they cheated, just as i cannot prove you didn't. You can say it is "likely" but unless you were physically with them 24/7 you have no real proof. Similarly you cannot say your kingdom did not cheat. There is no way for you to know this with any degree of certainty.

You're getting into semantics and a little defensive. It's not like anyone is going to get deleted over this.

With that same argument you can't be sure that you didn't pick up a hooker and kill her last night.

Are you really denying that the top kds traded Bishop?

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Originally Posted by Fates Warning

Forced use of outside communications was always against the rules in the days of Mehul. Same with Alliances... he just gave-up trying to police all you cheaters all the time. Pretty sad that you all couldn't play by the rules just to stroke your own egos.

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Did I say anything about forcing anyone to do those things? No I didn't. So don't quote me and talk about something entirely different. And even if everyone always played by rules, it wouldn't make you a better player so you would still be ghetto, deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Palem

You're getting into semantics and a little defensive. It's not like anyone is going to get deleted over this.

With that same argument you can't be sure that you didn't pick up a hooker and kill her last night.

Are you really denying that the top kds traded Bishop?

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Semantics are all we have! Obviously i am not saying the top kds didn't trade. I'm saying you cannot prove it, just like Fates cannot prove his kingdom didn't cheat.

I believe somewhere in the 'Lower kd sizes' thread there is a comment (I believe from you Bishop) that top kds are not sustainable without trading.

The top kds were certainly being sustained, thus, you must have been trading.

Isn't that proof enough?

not really - about as much "proof" that the ghettos obviously do not trade because they are not topping the charts. TBH i don't remember making a remark like that, but i am in favour of trading so it is not impossible that i said it.

Did you trade before trading was legal Bishop?

ya, of course