Powerplaying conspiracy

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Originally Posted by Feint

Top 10 Learning Point for Age 63:

1. It is mandatory to SN even when randoming if not you are likely to be accused of double hostile.
2. You cannot hit/retal kingdoms that are in the Top 10 (Bottom Feeding is legitimate in the eye of Top 10)
3. You (outside the Top 10 standing) cannot hit kingdoms who are smaller than you (You be accused of bullying instead of bottom feeding)
4. Hitting into another kingdom war has become the latest trend and is almost accepted by the community.
5. Aggressor waved opponent for war. They have to follow up to ask if they willing to war during/before/after the wave. If they do not wish, aggressor has to offer CF (All these despite aggressor taking retal from ops or hits)
6. You need an ally. Not friend. Ally means, paying periodic tribute in the form of acres in return for protection.
7. Diplo is very important esp toward building a peaceful time in playing Utopia- Maybe can consider removing war and change to like Sim City, grow and grow and build
8. 1 ally is not enough. You need a chain of ally preferably in various size. 6mill kingdom waving you. You are at 5 mill. You called in a 7 mill ally to stop him. When the 7 mill kingdom also cannot handle, they called in a 12 mill one.
9. When sending PM, be sure to ask your intended receipient communicate in what language. Best is to have a lawyer to go through your mail before sending.
10. Do not wave. Ppl will be offended not because they are in hostile. They will be very angry when they are not ready, players on holidays, in pump mode when you waved. You wan war, wait to be waved. Sure no conflict.

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I think you got most of it quite rite ! But if you do wanna hit into a top 10 kd, be sure to hit the right amount of times. Too many kingdoms don't understand the concept of hitting just enough not provoking.

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Originally Posted by UtopiaExpert

Nailed it. Must say thought that if I was in the top and I'd random someone and get retalled, I'd RK that prov any day just to set an example. The arranging war/hostiles etc are really tricky. Our KD doesn't mind being waved as long as it's done on our attackers. Twice this age we were forced into a 4-5 day recovery simply because a KD waved with 3-ish hits on each of our TMs, costing them tons of elites that needed retraining (either as elite or spec). You could argue "just go to war with small TMs", but if you're playing to win, you cannot afford that hehe.

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haha yea. new trend. wave into their T/Ms and be called bullies and war not agreed and aggressor have to offer CF after half-1 wave. anything more and allies come hunting you. lol. joke game

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Originally Posted by K9orange

well now,
i feel the need to post here since i represent Force, and palem, you can believe it or you can opt not to, i really dont care.
we waved for acres, there is no conspiracy and no one asked us to hit, there were free acres to be had.
you could have just sent a cf, and we would have accepted, instead (you failed to post it in your op,) we got retals, which is fine of course, but also the reason for more hits, is this unheard of?

again, i dont care if you believe it or not, but dont go accusing us for powerplay/conspiracys just cause we waved for free acres
i can assure you, we have no relations/pact of anykind with wehurt.

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Read carefully my post. Look at Point 5. U should offered CF as an aggressor and not waiting for it. Trust me. This is the rule I learnt this age. If u still continue wave while waiting for cf to come, I am sure ur next war , be it this age or next age, don't cry when u get pk during war. Haha.

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Originally Posted by K9orange

well now,
i feel the need to post here since i represent Force, and palem, you can believe it or you can opt not to, i really dont care.
we waved for acres, there is no conspiracy and no one asked us to hit, there were free acres to be had.
you could have just sent a cf, and we would have accepted, instead (you failed to post it in your op,) we got retals, which is fine of course, but also the reason for more hits, is this unheard of?

again, i dont care if you believe it or not, but dont go accusing us for powerplay/conspiracys just cause we waved for free acres
i can assure you, we have no relations/pact of anykind with wehurt.

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ORLY?!
June 24 of YR13 Epic (FM) attacked and stole from TwoNightStand (FWB).
June 24 of YR13 An unknown province from Force Majeure No War (FM) attacked and stole from Sundbyberg Delux (FWB).
June 24 of YR13 10001110101 (FM) attacked and stole from Happiest Ending (FWB).
July 9 of YR13 centurion tomato (FM) attacked and stole from Pendekar Laut (FWB).
July 18 of YR13 Cheech (FM) attacked and stole from No Fish All Batter (FWB).


Your ruse has crumbled sir! Return to your backdoor meetings and construct some more lies of deceit!
#liars

I must agree with Palem :-( lol

The reason FWB fight back is because it's 2vs1 and all a CF does is spare you ops. Plus, you can break the CF.

All your pointing out Palem is that your a week KD and easy pickings, so they keep picking. Diplo and cf take care of these things - instead of whining about it.

Force is a decent group, always on the up and up with diplo.

ooo snap, i missed that you had free resources aswell, i am sorry, well let me correct that,
we waved for free stuff, acres included....

as for your conspiracy theory, its still flawed, i repeat, we have no dealings with the other kd,

@strato, well, they havent given any ops, and if a cf would be sent we would honor it, and not break

@neanderthal, cheers mate, its been a while ;), i am on a mission to get your leaders epicly drunk come saturday!!

Ty mate for that.
Yes,i always work things out with diplo.And normally accept an offered cf right away unless a kingdom heavy retals.
If you had checked our news you would have seen we just did the same to Heroes and Vill too but accepted thier cf soon as it came.
I assure you we have no deals with anyone and would not agree to team up on any sort of action under any circumstances.Simply put,you should have offered the cf instead of insisting i send 1 to you.
We had no real plan on this mate.We decided in 1 hour to make some quick hits on a lower nw kingdom and Imm go fort since we had just waved out 2x last 24 hours.Please stop looking for some conspiracy theory where it does not exist mate.Send a cf and i would accept.Be no reason to cancel,,i have only done that 1x in 15 years.But unf that may have been against you several ages ago when you were again crying about something we did,if you remember :)
All good tho mate

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Originally Posted by neanderthal

Force is a decent group, always on the up and up with diplo.

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Force is currently farming a kd that's not in declare range and knowingly double hostling them when that kingdom has, at no point, given them unfriendly. We've caught them in a multitude of lies. We can squabble about definitions, but that's not a "decent" group of people lol

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Originally Posted by K9orange

ooo snap, i missed that you had free resources aswell, i am sorry, well let me correct that,
we waved for free stuff, acres included....

as for your conspiracy theory, its still flawed, i repeat, we have no dealings with the other kd,

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You were contacted about a CF yesterday. Still don't have one.

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Originally Posted by Legions

Ty mate for that.
Yes,i always work things out with diplo.And normally accept an offered cf right away unless a kingdom heavy retals.
If you had checked our news you would have seen we just did the same to Heroes and Vill too but accepted thier cf soon as it came.
I assure you we have no deals with anyone and would not agree to team up on any sort of action under any circumstances.Simply put,you should have offered the cf instead of insisting i send 1 to you.
We had no real plan on this mate.We decided in 1 hour to make some quick hits on a lower nw kingdom and Imm go fort since we had just waved out 2x last 24 hours.Please stop looking for some conspiracy theory where it does not exist mate.Send a cf and i would accept.Be no reason to cancel,,i have only done that 1x in 15 years.But unf that may have been against you several ages ago when you were again crying about something we did,if you remember :)
All good tho mate

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You say these things, but your kingdom is a bunch of liars who lie (this is confirmed). Ergo, we have no reason to trust your word.

#liars #diplo #VermYouGettinThis?

I am not sending you the cf mate.You can come down off your high horse and ask for one.

Dont cry about war range either.When we were waved by kingdoms 1 mil or more above us,we sucked it up and asked for a cf.They did not send it to us,we took the wave,worked out a cf and moved on.No i never did check your news cause we had no plan of going any further with it anyway.

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Originally Posted by Palem

You were contacted about a CF yesterday. Still don't have one.

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So, what your saying is that your kd has still not sent a CF. You are expecting them to send you one. Your solution is to Instead you whine here in the forums.

You deserve to be farmed with that attitude.

This age will end in 3 days 20 hours 4 minutes.

As you were Force, keep farming for the rest of the age....

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Originally Posted by K9orange

ooo snap, i missed that you had free resources aswell, i am sorry, well let me correct that,
we waved for free stuff, acres included....

as for your conspiracy theory, its still flawed, i repeat, we have no dealings with the other kd,

@strato, well, they havent given any ops, and if a cf would be sent we would honor it, and not break

@neanderthal, cheers mate, its been a while ;), i am on a mission to get your leaders epicly drunk come saturday!!

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but why haven't you replied to my request for CF??? and not considering the situation?

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Originally Posted by Legions

I am not sending you the cf mate.You can come down off your high horse and ask for one.

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We did ask for a CF. You refuse to send it. Force could have been the reasonable party and offer up a CF to the kingdom they were knowingly double hostile and wasn't making any real attempt to retal. But no, they decided to pile on and farm for really no real reason considering they aren't in a position to win anything and all of their positive efforts will be erased in about 3 days. But oh boy, the negative backlash that's going to come from this...oh boy. Enjoy next age. Try to get into too many hostiles ;)

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Originally Posted by neanderthal

So, what your saying is that your kd has still not sent a CF. You are expecting them to send you one. Your solution is to Instead you whine here in the forums.

You deserve to be farmed with that attitude.

This age will end in 3 days 20 hours 4 minutes.

As you were Force, keep farming for the rest of the age....

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You assume this is our "solution". This is me, laying down the facts. Facts don't have attitudes.


Next age **** list:
Force
War Monkeys

:)


#NextAgeShenanigans #AskFREE #Liars #HatersGonnaHate

Awe - Palem is mad at me. Not sure we have ever even hit into your kd this age. So, knowing you - you will raze kill into all our wars because, well thats you.

@ Palem
In all honesty mate,,are you still mad about several ages ago when we had a similiar problem like this ? And you refused to just send over a cf ? Im starting to think you just holding a grudge against us for killing off a few of you guys,including you 2x.

@smercjd--why do i need to really reply ? Even now with you all on,you still havent sent a cf.What is there to discuss? We now been in fort for nearly 24 hours.I thought this long over and have no orders out for anything on you guys.At this point my guys just hitting is them being stubborn,just like you guiys :)