Mask 6th war win

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Originally Posted by Feint

Lestat, Mask will win against Helix. U see their news, you will know

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Well, Masks will never win against us; we probably caught them with their pants down, but never the less, what is in the news is this:
** Summary **
Total attacks made: 56 (26,593 acres)
-- Traditional march: 50 (25,526 acres)
-- Ambush: 3 (833 acres)
-- Conquest: 1 (234 acres)
-- Failed: 2 (3.6% failure)
-- Uniques: 29
Total attacks suffered: 24 (5,548 acres)
-- Traditional march: 11 (5,548 acres)
-- Massacre: 12 (134,009 population)
-- Plunder: 1
-- Uniques: 20

** The kingdom of x:x **
Total land exchanged: +21,045 (56/24)

** The kingdom of 2:38 **
Total land exchanged: +21,045 (56/24)

From a kingdom that was built this Age, Mask is hurting 2 much.
And this will not stop here for sure :)
Good luck guys!

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Originally Posted by vodislavia

Well, Masks will never win against us; we probably caught them with their pants down, but never the less, what is in the news is this:
** Summary **
Total attacks made: 56 (26,593 acres)
-- Traditional march: 50 (25,526 acres)
-- Ambush: 3 (833 acres)
-- Conquest: 1 (234 acres)
-- Failed: 2 (3.6% failure)
-- Uniques: 29
Total attacks suffered: 24 (5,548 acres)
-- Traditional march: 11 (5,548 acres)
-- Massacre: 12 (134,009 population)
-- Plunder: 1
-- Uniques: 20

** The kingdom of x:x **
Total land exchanged: +21,045 (56/24)

** The kingdom of x:x **
Total land exchanged: +21,045 (56/24)

From a kingdom that was built this Age, Mask is hurting 2 much.
And this will not stop here for sure :)
Good luck guys!

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Then you'll withdraw to keep your gains and Masks will win their 7th war ;-)

Nice strategy on their part hehe

p.s. don't post locations ;-)

Then you'll withdraw to keep your gains and Masks will win their 7th war ;-)

Nice strategy on their part hehe

p.s. don't post locations ;-)




y would they wd to keep gains at eoa .. they r warring to win obviously and from the looks of it mask is losing big time ..
if this is a strategy of theirs to get helix to wd for winning in their war then that is a pretty retarded strategy

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Originally Posted by JAZZE

Then you'll withdraw to keep your gains and Masks will win their 7th war ;-)

Nice strategy on their part hehe

p.s. don't post locations ;-)




y would they wd to keep gains at eoa .. they r warring to win obviously and from the looks of it mask is losing big time ..
if this is a strategy of theirs to get helix to wd for winning in their war then that is a pretty retarded strategy

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*sarcasm* ;-)

touche

we played all age looking for fair war wins and not land; we know Mask will not wd although statistics will say that they loose big time; is EoA and they want to keep that pathetic 6/6 fake war wins;
Last war on 8:15 was a 20k acres in exchange of a war win; again - pathetic!

Fake wars are over for masks, now its time for a spanking. And what better for warwin whores then to spank them with a double helix whip.

My money on Mask. Their massacre tactic will see result only after min time. Your max gain strat will fail if war extends. I am not from mask nor a fan. But this is a fact.

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Originally Posted by vodislavia

Well, Masks will never win against us; we probably caught them with their pants down, but never the less, what is in the news is this:
** Summary **
Total attacks made: 56 (26,593 acres)
-- Traditional march: 50 (25,526 acres)
-- Ambush: 3 (833 acres)
-- Conquest: 1 (234 acres)
-- Failed: 2 (3.6% failure)
-- Uniques: 29
Total attacks suffered: 24 (5,548 acres)
-- Traditional march: 11 (5,548 acres)
-- Massacre: 12 (134,009 population)
-- Plunder: 1
-- Uniques: 20

** The kingdom of x:x **
Total land exchanged: +21,045 (56/24)

** The kingdom of x:x **
Total land exchanged: +21,045 (56/24)

From a kingdom that was built this Age, Mask is hurting 2 much.
And this will not stop here for sure :)
Good luck guys!

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Looks more like max gains on your side... max gains doesn't win wars in most cases. If you truly want to win, you should find another way. Otherwise they'll just farm you and get another win.

Love you guys :D

Jeez, thats a lot of failed attacks..


Also - Max gains will not go well for you in a long war. They will shut down your T/Ms and can then just farm you relatively hassle-free.. unless you Withdraw, you will probably end up losing those acres..

Every war this age Masks has overpowered the opposing KDs TMs despite sometimes having 1/2 or 2/3 the amount. And UD Tact can duke it out for quite a good period of time.

Helix seem more like a ghetto, pardon my statement as the audacity to claim a definite war win over mask for a petty 20k acre lead. If there is a hidden agenda such as one give free acre and one giving free war win, it sounds more logical. And such statement is like a feeble attempt to cover the conspiracy behind the war. No hard feeling. Just hope that freedom of speech is allowed in this forum.

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Originally Posted by Feint

Helix seem more like a ghetto, pardon my statement as the audacity to claim a definite war win over mask for a petty 20k acre lead. If there is a hidden agenda such as one give free acre and one giving free war win, it sounds more logical. And such statement is like a feeble attempt to cover the conspiracy behind the war. No hard feeling. Just hope that freedom of speech is allowed in this forum.

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you are totally wrong! we went to war with Masks to punish them for the fake war with the previous kingdom; our strategy is not max gains, is to disable provinces; if we chain a provinces from 9k acres to under 1500 acres, I would not say that is max gains; and from the place in honor of our kingdom u can see our gold was never the land, but the honor and war wins.
Most of them undead were at 9-10k acres; now no more and this war will take long time and they will be taken down all of those undead;
also a big mistake at beginning of war, they probably figure it out by now as they changed strategy; guess is 2 late :)

Massacre tactic. Would have paid off if their tm parameters were in spec. They are clearly not. 1 wave of massacres is not going to change anything. Also, where do you get that Helix is max gaining? That information is flawed obviously.

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Originally Posted by vodislavia

you are totally wrong! we went to war with Masks to punish them for the fake war with the previous kingdom; our strategy is not max gains, is to disable provinces; if we chain a provinces from 9k acres to under 1500 acres, I would not say that is max gains; and from the place in honor of our kingdom u can see our gold was never the land, but the honor and war wins.
Most of them undead were at 9-10k acres; now no more and this war will take long time and they will be taken down all of those undead;
also a big mistake at beginning of war, they probably figure it out by now as they changed strategy; guess is 2 late :)

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I normally do not comment, especially when we are at war. I will say that you are wrong on several levels and unless you know for certain of the intent of our tactics, I suggest you not fill this thread with false statements. Our tactics and modifications of such throughout the age, have brought us our war wins and for the record, we did not have a fake war in any of our wars. So to say " we went to war with Masks to punish them for the fake war with the previous kingdom ", is just completely naive. Your kingdom taking us on was a welcomed sight since we want to solidify our spot in the WW charts. I will say that you guys/gals are a worthy foe and whom ever wins, wins. However, all the "trash" talk is nonsense until the war is over my friend. Good luck with the war.

I understand the negative response to being considered a ghetto, but a rebuttal with verbal justification paired with a small sample size is just as insignificant as the initiating proposition. Nevertheless, we'll see how this war turns out. It is interestingly matched between two KD's that at least appear to possess adequate potential both enacting very different strategies and with very different KD compositions. As this EoA war is still in its infancy, it is probably best we, as spectators or participants, refrain from jumping to too drastic conclusions too hastily; and as well refrain from unnecessary verbal disputes.

Masks got learn/tm waved by divinity the same day Helix war hapend, tought spot but who knows.

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Originally Posted by vodislavia

you are totally wrong! we went to war with Masks to punish them for the fake war with the previous kingdom; our strategy is not max gains, is to disable provinces; if we chain a provinces from 9k acres to under 1500 acres, I would not say that is max gains; and from the place in honor of our kingdom u can see our gold was never the land, but the honor and war wins.
Most of them undead were at 9-10k acres; now no more and this war will take long time and they will be taken down all of those undead;
also a big mistake at beginning of war, they probably figure it out by now as they changed strategy; guess is 2 late :)

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If you honestly think chaining a province down to 1500 acres is sufficient to shut them down, even from 9k, you are in for a very very rude awakening.

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Originally Posted by LuckySports

If you honestly think chaining a province down to 1500 acres is sufficient to shut them down, even from 9k, you are in for a very very rude awakening.

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Well, from the way it goes, Masks still can't turn around the war, they are still down 25k acres, 1 prov under 1k acres with 500 def points at home, 1 provinces under 1.5k acres and going under 1k acres and other provinces to come under the 1k acres.
They were 2 mil nw above us and now they are under us with more than 1 mil nw - the same, this will increase.
From what it looks, they will not surrender even if reality hits them in the head with the hammer.
That 6/6 war win stats is what still keeps them in the war that would probably never end and they will take it to the end of the Age.
That is just pathetic!

Just an update after 46 hours of war:

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 212 (60,645 acres)
-- Traditional march: 200 (58,522 acres)
-- Ambush: 3 (927 acres)
-- Conquest: 4 (1,196 acres)
-- Raze: 1 (107 acres)
-- Failed: 4 (1.9% failure)
-- Uniques: 82
Total attacks suffered: 126 (32,434 acres)
-- Traditional march: 114 (32,434 acres)
-- Massacre: 11 (125,106 population)
-- Failed: 1 (0.8% failure)
-- Uniques: 56

** The kingdom of X:XX **
Total land exchanged: +28,211 (212/126)

We slained their Dragon in 4 clicks
Our Dragon is still there and with all those provinces ruined or elite based, that Pet will stay long time there
So we are up 28k acres, more than last time and will they surrender?

Nope :)

Got another update mate?

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Originally Posted by vodislavia

Just an update after 46 hours of war:

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 212 (60,645 acres)
-- Traditional march: 200 (58,522 acres)
-- Ambush: 3 (927 acres)
-- Conquest: 4 (1,196 acres)
-- Raze: 1 (107 acres)
-- Failed: 4 (1.9% failure)
-- Uniques: 82
Total attacks suffered: 126 (32,434 acres)
-- Traditional march: 114 (32,434 acres)
-- Massacre: 11 (125,106 population)
-- Failed: 1 (0.8% failure)
-- Uniques: 56

** The kingdom of X:XX **
Total land exchanged: +28,211 (212/126)

We slained their Dragon in 4 clicks
Our Dragon is still there and with all those provinces ruined or elite based, that Pet will stay long time there
So we are up 28k acres, more than last time and will they surrender?

Nope :)

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I've been following your war. Weren't you at 10k acre and now down to 2k. Well that's funny still. Can't wait to see how it turns out. We've only seen stats from your side, where is masks?

More updates please, has masks launch their counter attack?

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Originally Posted by Feint

More updates please, has masks launch their counter attack?

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The latest update is here; comments: Masks cant launch counter attack (already 3rd day of war); they cannot keep up with our attacking numbers and our activity; both kingdoms now work and taking provinces under 1k acres but as we got more attackers and more activity, we do it so much easily. To answer to coolt9 - yes I was at 14k acres and they chained me down; another mistake from Masks as my defense was 500k and they had to send only 1x attack / province one full wave, while we were doing 3x, 4x, 5x attacks / province; and taking me down to 2k acres was not bad for my kingdom as I just hit 4x with a total 1814 acres.
Now here are the news:

** Kingdom news report **
For the time from April 23 of YR11 till July 19 of YR11 - 69 hours


** Summary **
Total attacks made: 338 (83,233 acres)
-- Traditional march: 316 (80,747 acres)
-- Ambush: 6 (1,290 acres)
-- Conquest: 4 (1,196 acres)
-- Raze: 4 (567 acres)
-- Failed: 8 (2.4% failure)
-- Uniques: 117
Total attacks suffered: 197 (53,523 acres)
-- Traditional march: 181 (52,118 acres)
-- Ambush: 3 (1,405 acres)
-- Massacre: 11 (125,106 population)
-- Failed: 2 (1% failure)
-- Uniques: 83

** The kingdom of x:x **
Total land exchanged: +29,710 (338/197)
+8,424 Assassin 95 (26 [8]/0)
+4,889 Land of Blossoms (27 [7]/0)
+4,349 Queue (19 [6]/0)
+4,240 NothingHere (13 [5]/0)
+4,198 Im a cutie pie (19 [6]/0)
+4,179 Dead Hero (11 [4]/2)
+4,170 Suck my Helix (11 [5]/0)
+3,782 Everpeak (20 [8]/0)
+2,489 Amisfort (9 [3]/0)
+2,350 fibonacci (19 [7]/2)
+1,891 Fly Baby Flay (19 [6]/1)
+1,576 Eureka (13 [7]/0)
+943 An unknown province (2/0)
+499 hydro (9 [3]/0)
+297 Lodis (20 [7]/15)
+136 Mrs Feary (2 [2]/2)
+57 Mira (2 [2]/0)
+47 taiboku (1 [1]/5)
- Ngau_N_Chu (0/3)
-596 chickmaster (3 [3]/2)
-2,078 Zachar (13 [4]/12)
-2,706 koala eat babies (16 [5]/33)
-3,023 Micro-scope (23 [6]/26)
-3,586 Forza Precision (19 [6]/46)
-6,250 Vodislavia (22 [6]/48)


** The kingdom of x:x **
Total land exchanged: -29,710 (197/338)
+4,474 Voodoo Mask (16 [6]/0)
+3,831 Mask of Mandalor (10 [6]/1)
+1,912 Masking Tape (8 [3]/0)
+1,261 Mask of Beerdrinking (16 [5]/3)
+767 Mask (15 [5]/3)
+521 Maskodon (16 [6]/7)
+213 An unknown province (1/0)
-153 Majoras Mask (16 [6]/9)
-710 Masked army (10 [5]/10)
-2,159 Maskinen (12 [6]/11)
-2,323 Deep Sea Dive Mask (10 [5]/11)
-4,176 Mask of Vengeance (6 [4]/18)
-5,576 Maskuerade (7 [3]/34)
-6,010 Mask of Serenity (18 [7]/31)
-6,450 Crazies (11 [6]/40)
-7,198 Masken (6 [4]/52)
-8,501 Mask of Winter (19 [6]/108)

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Originally Posted by xRDx

I understand the negative response to being considered a ghetto, but a rebuttal with verbal justification paired with a small sample size is just as insignificant as the initiating proposition. Nevertheless, we'll see how this war turns out. It is interestingly matched between two KD's that at least appear to possess adequate potential both enacting very different strategies and with very different KD compositions. As this EoA war is still in its infancy, it is probably best we, as spectators or participants, refrain from jumping to too drastic conclusions too hastily; and as well refrain from unnecessary verbal disputes.

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Dude if i wanted to read a english grammar book, or a essay about 17th century castles i would have bought a book. Omg what a post

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Originally Posted by vodislavia

The latest update is here; comments: Masks cant launch counter attack (already 3rd day of war); they cannot keep up with our attacking numbers and our activity; both kingdoms now work and taking provinces under 1k acres but as we got more attackers and more activity, we do it so much easily. To answer to coolt9 - yes I was at 14k acres and they chained me down; another mistake from Masks as my defense was 500k and they had to send only 1x attack / province one full wave, while we were doing 3x, 4x, 5x attacks / province; and taking me down to 2k acres was not bad for my kingdom as I just hit 4x with a total 1814 acres.
Now here are the news:

** Kingdom news report **
For the time from April 23 of YR11 till July 19 of YR11 - 69 hours


** Summary **
Total attacks made: 338 (83,233 acres)
-- Traditional march: 316 (80,747 acres)
-- Ambush: 6 (1,290 acres)
-- Conquest: 4 (1,196 acres)
-- Raze: 4 (567 acres)
-- Failed: 8 (2.4% failure)
-- Uniques: 117
Total attacks suffered: 197 (53,523 acres)
-- Traditional march: 181 (52,118 acres)
-- Ambush: 3 (1,405 acres)
-- Massacre: 11 (125,106 population)
-- Failed: 2 (1% failure)
-- Uniques: 83

** The kingdom of x:x **
Total land exchanged: +29,710 (338/197)
+8,424 Assassin 95 (26 [8]/0)
+4,889 Land of Blossoms (27 [7]/0)
+4,349 Queue (19 [6]/0)
+4,240 NothingHere (13 [5]/0)
+4,198 Im a cutie pie (19 [6]/0)
+4,179 Dead Hero (11 [4]/2)
+4,170 Suck my Helix (11 [5]/0)
+3,782 Everpeak (20 [8]/0)
+2,489 Amisfort (9 [3]/0)
+2,350 fibonacci (19 [7]/2)
+1,891 Fly Baby Flay (19 [6]/1)
+1,576 Eureka (13 [7]/0)
+943 An unknown province (2/0)
+499 hydro (9 [3]/0)
+297 Lodis (20 [7]/15)
+136 Mrs Feary (2 [2]/2)
+57 Mira (2 [2]/0)
+47 taiboku (1 [1]/5)
- Ngau_N_Chu (0/3)
-596 chickmaster (3 [3]/2)
-2,078 Zachar (13 [4]/12)
-2,706 koala eat babies (16 [5]/33)
-3,023 Micro-scope (23 [6]/26)
-3,586 Forza Precision (19 [6]/46)
-6,250 Vodislavia (22 [6]/48)


** The kingdom of x:x **
Total land exchanged: -29,710 (197/338)
+4,474 Voodoo Mask (16 [6]/0)
+3,831 Mask of Mandalor (10 [6]/1)
+1,912 Masking Tape (8 [3]/0)
+1,261 Mask of Beerdrinking (16 [5]/3)
+767 Mask (15 [5]/3)
+521 Maskodon (16 [6]/7)
+213 An unknown province (1/0)
-153 Majoras Mask (16 [6]/9)
-710 Masked army (10 [5]/10)
-2,159 Maskinen (12 [6]/11)
-2,323 Deep Sea Dive Mask (10 [5]/11)
-4,176 Mask of Vengeance (6 [4]/18)
-5,576 Maskuerade (7 [3]/34)
-6,010 Mask of Serenity (18 [7]/31)
-6,450 Crazies (11 [6]/40)
-7,198 Masken (6 [4]/52)
-8,501 Mask of Winter (19 [6]/108)

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I dont think it is a matter of tactics at this point, big difference in uniques/hits so its a clear cut case of active kd vs semi active kd. Helix wins

doesn't mask have 22 prov's vs. helix that has 25 prov's. that 3 extra makes a difference.

Masks started 2mill larger in NW than Helix, Masks started the hostilities by somewhat waving Helix, Masks just cant handle the heat.

wrong move by masks i think

A walkover? Maybe mask still have secret weapon? Don't forget their victory against a full kingdom that is a few million bigger in nw in their previous war.

@haringmanok, their other option was to eat learn waves from divinity or try to offer us "something". They were in range, we were bored. Having given them a termless cf very early age that we never broke to take acres and them being 90% our size in nw and within 3k acres seemed fair to hit them given as much waring as they'd done. better to war a kd 2 million nw smaller than try diplomacy with us i guess :/

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Originally Posted by Feint

A walkover? Maybe mask still have secret weapon? Don't forget their victory against a full kingdom that is a few million bigger in nw in their previous war.

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yes because that war wasn't being manipulated in any way.

Will mask surrender or they are praying to be saved by end of age?

They won't surrender, not a chance

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Originally Posted by LightWolf

They won't surrender, not a chance

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Well after almost 4 days of war, we are up more than 30k acres, they lost 7 mil nw, they were 2mil nw up and they are now 2.5 mil nw less than us; we dont have enough time to bring them less than half to our nw.
These statistics can only show you that Masks should surrender.
They pray for the End of the Age to come sooner - just a pathetic kingdom; we will be looking for them Next Age to punish them again.
Our kingdom was built this Age from old players that came back to Utopia for the fun of old Ages; we have 4/5 war wins, the first war wast lost when a few of us, including me, were not in the kingdom yet.
This 6/6 war wins have no honor and for sure not all wars were real. Most warring kingdom in the world? - most fake warring kingdom in the world!
Masks = pathetic fake war kingdom!

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Originally Posted by Feint

A walkover? Maybe mask still have secret weapon? Don't forget their victory against a full kingdom that is a few million bigger in nw in their previous war.

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The secret weapon was "we give you 20k free acres and u give us the war win"

Previous that kingdom waved us for land thinking we let them as they were much bigger than us; we fought back and hostile them, took our land back and more, but they never declared on us; they went into a war with Masks for land; those guys are at 250k acres kingdom and 3/6 war wins warring Warrior Princess now; those guys are looking for land/nw and Mask are looking for war wins - was the best weapon for both of them to get what they want!

You know the way you put it,
The secret weapon was "we give you 20k free acres and u give us the war win"
actually sounds pretty good.

It was a trade of land for whom he could tell to whom he pleased, that he had won the war.

Warrior Princess's was a target our KD had in mind for the majority of this age, but they dodged war at every opportunity. So we had to start picking fights with the bigger dogs.

January 18 of YR12 MASKS-War (x:x) has withdrawn from war. Our people rejoice at our victory!

I have never thought this would happen!

Huh, thought Age would end in this war :)

Best of luck in the future!

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Originally Posted by vodislavia

January 18 of YR12 MASKS-War (x:x) has withdrawn from war. Our people rejoice at our victory!

I have never thought this would happen!

Huh, thought Age would end in this war :)

Best of luck in the future!

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Congrats, I never thought it would happen, good work mate

Now's your chance BoB! Get that crown!

Easy said than done, I have massive respect for brave hearts, they actually know how to war and war well. Only thing is I think their monarch is a kiwi :(