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The way I view this is as follows :
Simians tagged up and called out AMA to war. in my eyes by not agreeing to war them AMA probably only decided to do so when Simians armies were out at pyro. Until a leaf cf was offered from pyro, to me that is an active hostile. AMA I feel have shut played Simians here and did create a 2v1.
If AMA wanted to war on even grounds why not set a date with Simians in which they would wave?
It's very obvious that AMA is just taking advantage of Simians because of Anri challenge/boast to Elit. Double hostile is not ok, either if it's coming from Elit or Anri. And boast/challenge does not give right to double hostile. Anri 103% opponent size, Elit 75% size. I guess Elit need to hit Simians down to 75% size for fair 1VS1. Elit should grow some common sense and give Simians a slack. (What Elit really wants is to put Simians down in very bad position so they can't bite their asses later on). Simians deserves this age's farmout crown but not in 2vs1 double hostile. Unless Elit is very greedy.
and yes i trolled ama cause i wanted to beat em in a fair christmas war and get 2/2 early wins. Its fun talk b4 battle. Ama backed out of everything i tried to get em to war. UNTIL pyro waves us and thier chance came to be secure enough to war us. They all ready had advantage of suprise and us not knowing thier loc. Just lame of ama to not be able to fight us until thdy ssee us getting waved back and armies out.
Only solution is for AMA to eat 2 waves double hostile for fair AMA VS Simians, then Elit can farm Simians acres in war and not in 2vs1 double hostile.
We have stopped hostilities with Simians, we only took back a little land due to their ****play of jumping us in our active hostile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abscond
Simians knew a war with AMA was coming on xmas, they have no right to complain if they chose to wave into some else's hostile.
AMA waved on xmas....
I have no doubts simians are in cahoots with Legacy from the start.
We are unable to get a CF from either kingdom & receiving hits from both of them.
Simains continues to fight 2 against 1, rather than 1v1 against AMA...
It's pretty clear that Pyro will not war Simians and Simians will not war AMA, at current situation. I guess we'll have to wait which side max out the meter, Pyro or Simians. Free acres for AMA, ftw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Knight
The twist of the story? Elit and Anri are BFFs and Anri is giving free acres to Elit which Anri is taking from Pyro who doesn't have CF with Legacy yet. It's very obvious that this is intentional farmout.<pun intended>
Anri if you have something to say you can find me in irc. Forum is not place where you get solution.
Haters keep hate. I know its: AMA is evil again and Simians is poor victim :)
Thats total rubbish!Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Why did you wave into an active hostile when you knew AMA intended to wave you on xmas?
You alone created the situation, but we all know this as you were running away from them!
Funny part is I heard you asked them to wave themselves due to mistaken identity ROFL
AMA is smiling at the utopian gods for bestowing them this rare oppurtunity to farm acres off of Simians where nobody notices the "intentional farmout". Elit will ask Anri to maybe move the acres to Elit's humans and not the undeads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
Blablabla, the oldest story in the book kd. When you interfere in other people's hostiles you get hit. I don't really see the reasoning behind crying for war with us and then waving someone else. We didn't agree to war? I didn't see us saying we woould't war Simians for Christmas. You wanted to know our setup and set a proper date? Why? I can recall Anri cursing Elit and all his deal making and noticing and stuff, and now you want arranged war. What's the point. You could just wait and get the button.
AMA are just opportunists, they won't crown again this age but they'll try to weasel their way there anyway possible.
Anri and Elit are friends behind our backs. This is intentional farmout and needs to be dealt with ASAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter
So get off forums and let's get it started!Quote:
Originally Posted by Abscond
Jerk/PewPew/Rage/Fratzia has no balls to wave AMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drug
I don't think u r in position to talk for any of the above kds. Real truth is u r the one w/out balls in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abscond
Dafuq do any of them have to do with this drama and BS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Abscond
was hoping for server war
Simians an agent of Chaos? Let there be war....
AMA crowned last age.Quote:
Originally Posted by FishCakeJake90
land crown > NW crown > honor/WW crown. Jerks crowned last age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
PewPew demands an apology
I don't understand why the top lets AMA gets free acres from Simians. This is very obvious intentional farmout. Top got no balls.
Every one have his fun for xmass. Look like you are limited to forum posting with fake nick... pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abscond
Simians just need to ask themselves: What would pew pew do?
Simple! Give AMA the war, Anri. Then send 60% of your hits to learn them while the other 40% are ambushes and trads for as much acres as you can get back. This way AMA have to take themselves out of crown race or raze more acres than they gained form you or be GB'd by their own allies. Heck, according to flogger you will even get a WW from this from AMA, and you can say that you beat them (Cuz Elit says getting the WW means you won).
Keep advice simians. I like it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzerland
Crown race is a joke this age anyway with bug abusers :) GO GO BISHOP!
Please listen to the wise man, Anri.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzerland
simians finally getting somewhere
pyro scared to put their winning streak at stake.
AMA is the real ghetto. Forget ur crown pursuits, just raze and troll them for the rest of the age
What bug? Did i miss it !Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzerland
Every age is joke. Just different one :)
Elit is best at strategy, keeping simians guessing and caught them in this bad spot. Nw differens is to big between AMA and Simians for a fair war now :S.
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitram
Actually i think we manage to provide most fun xmass in utopia history. If you was in #tactics there was much real time logs and fun. People going to remember if for years :)
Lol@pyro active hostile eh? its called "active bottom feeding" that is ur doin.
News Updates:
After starting all these **** play on Pyro, by waving into active hostile and effectively doing a double hostile
Simians is threatening Pyro that if AMA doesnt CF Simians, Simians will not CF Pyro. And they have been hitting Pyro non-stop.. So that Pyro will be greatly weakened and possibly farmed by Legacy (who deal broke an earlier CF agreement... perhaps because they knew Simians was going to exit fort and wave Pyro soon).
Now, Legacy sent their EMERALD drake in HOSTILE so that Simians can make FULL use of the dragon and keep hitting Pyros..
Merry Xmas all!
-cJ
Right seeing as I am from Legacy and the monarch i should explain it from our side...
We got waved by 'the boss' and gave them free acres, we got waved by Rage and gave them free acres as we were in no position to fight back.. Pyro thought it woul be easy to farm and waved us, we asked for CF they decided to hit all our big ones while agreeing to hits until the 4th.. We cast spells but never actually hit back, then 1 of theirs decided casting on him was an act of agression and he hit us and therefore broke the CF offer that was at hand.
Pyro then started a dragon and said if we wanted it complicated so be it (co-monarch), i told them i would drag it for as long as it took and not give them anything.
Simians waving them had nothing to do with us, Simians pm'd me asking to offer them a CF'er so they could take them on, i said no we wouldnt be bullied.
Any attempt at CF'er since has been them asking for another 1k acres for free and a CF until yr3... i got every right to protect my KD and they waved us not the otherway around, we had no deal with Simians, and the fact that some are claiming this to try and call in friends is beyond me..
Rage and PewPew both trying to mediate which suggest to me they need Pyro at the top for whatever reason.. Even warned us not to drag it. I dont take "sh*t" from lame KDs trying to bully and even though we are at a disadvantage i got every right to defend my KD the best i can. - If Rage and PewPew are both just trying to help sort it i still see no reason what so ever for them interfering, Pyro waved we responded, just like it should be, and yes Pyro knocked us out of range by their wave as we could no longer start a dragon on them by the time their wave was done.
As for the emerald dragon that is simply to slow Pyro down as they showed us no respect, so why would we show them, we got nothing to do with who waves them or what goes on, we are a war KD and we fight the way we see fit.
As for Pyro crying to all these other top KDs just shows how lame they are trying to find a way to get people to hit us when we have not asked a single person to body guard us.
Pyro will claim we broke CF first by OPing them(mind you we never hit) after they hit us (who wouldnt?) and then demanding 1k acres to CF?..They had a guy hitting us after getting OPs so they actually broke the CF "offer" so tought luck cookie.
If anyone got anything to discuss they know where to find me, but Legacy does not need help nor have we called in anyone to help us... What pyro cries about is a KD defending themselves and knowing how to.
Nothing against any KD here just telling as it is, Pyro, Rage and Pewpew and many others has always been fair to us, and we respect other KDs. - Sorry if i offended anyone but dont drag my KD into sh*t when we have done nothing wrong nor "planned" to do any doubles or whatever.
Angels>
why you giving it, when we are friends with Drixx
[7:56pm] <Angels>
we did what we had to
[7:56pm] <Angels>
and you trying to claim otherwise is pretty lame
[7:58pm] <PS>
bec ur a bunch of ****ing n00bs
[7:58pm] <PS>
learn to play the ****ing game with some class
[7:59pm] <Angels>
pyro tried to farm us
[7:59pm] <Angels>
why would i allow that?
[7:59pm] <Angels>
we are friendlies with Rage
[7:59pm] <Angels>
i didnt say you were ghetto
[7:59pm] <Angels>
i said you hit ghettos
[7:59pm] <Angels>
to make sure no retals
[7:59pm] <PS>
dude
[7:59pm] <PS>
a bigger kd hit u, all u had to do was either give them wave and cf or ar
[7:59pm] <PS>
war
[8:00pm] <PS>
not ****ing hard
[8:00pm] <Angels>
Pyro dont we had already given you
[8:00pm] <Angels>
and 4;22
[8:00pm] <PS>
instead u dont, then u fight back when someone else dubles them ur being lame
[8:00pm] <Angels>
i told them we wouldnt take it
[8:00pm] <Angels>
and still they did it
[8:00pm] <Angels>
no
[8:00pm] <PS>
then why havent u cf'ed them?
[8:00pm] <Angels>
we fought back from the start
[8:00pm] <Angels>
i tried
[8:00pm] <Angels>
i asked Pyro to let our meter get as close to equal
[8:00pm] <PS>
u see they are being doubled now by simians and claimed u didnt want war
[8:00pm] <Angels>
and then we would CF
[8:00pm] <PS>
so wtf is the point of what ur doing?
[8:00pm] <Angels>
instead they waved again
[8:01pm] <Angels>
we will war them when we are rdy
[8:01pm] <Angels>
always the intention
[8:01pm] <PS>
yeah so basically ur using simians wave
[8:01pm] <Angels>
no
[8:01pm] <Angels>
never asked simians
[8:01pm] <PS>
to try to equal out acres
[8:01pm] <Angels>
we were not in war build
[8:01pm] <Angels>
listen we never asked simians or anyone else
[8:01pm] <PS>
the meter would never have been equal if it was 1 on 1 between u and pyro
[8:01pm] <Angels>
maybe not and its still not
[8:01pm] <Angels>
but i told them to move on
[8:01pm] <PS>
ur in the process of having us razekill all of u until eoa
[8:01pm] <Angels>
they didnt
[8:02pm] <Angels>
then 1 of theirs hit us after CF was nearly agreed
[8:02pm] <Angels>
saying he didnt want OPs
[8:02pm] <Angels>
so they broke it
[8:02pm] <Angels>
not us
[8:02pm] <Angels>
and since we have fought back
[8:02pm] <Angels>
we didnt call in simians or anybody
[8:02pm] <Angels>
we are not friends with simians
[8:02pm] <PS>
it doesnt matter
[8:02pm] <Angels>
and the dragon was to slow them down
[8:02pm] <PS>
dude
[8:03pm] <Angels>
they were in the wrong dude
[8:03pm] <Angels>
not us
[8:03pm] <PS>
u ****ing dragonned, opped, and even hit them back. even after simians doubled them
[8:03pm] <PS>
ur just as ****ing lame period
[8:03pm] <Angels>
we fought back before simians came along
[8:03pm] <PS>
as it stand u, ama, and simians will be razed after this
[8:03pm] <Angels>
so not us being lame
[8:03pm] <Angels>
i tried sorting CF but Pyro wants free acres
[8:04pm] <Angels>
and that will not happen
[8:04pm] <PS>
pyro deserves their wave of acres
[8:04pm] <Angels>
no they dont
[8:04pm] <Angels>
we got the right to defend ourselves
[8:04pm] <PS>
there was no way u was stopping them 1 vs 1
[8:04pm] <PS>
perio
[8:04pm] <PS>
but w/e
[8:04pm] <PS>
since all of u like to double up on people dont worry we will return the favor and show everyone
[8:05pm] <Angels>
so pyro is Rage allies
[8:05pm] <Angels>
just like we are
[8:05pm] <PS>
no
[8:05pm] <Angels>
thats great
[8:05pm] <PS>
but we will not allow this type of bs
[8:05pm] <Angels>
why would you give me **** like that
[8:05pm] <PS>
u all will be razed
[8:05pm] <PS>
until u get some ****ing sense
[8:05pm] <PS>
im sick of way ppl play
[8:05pm] <Angels>
pyro dont deserve their free acres why should they
[8:06pm] <PS>
so either stop being n00bs or dont cry when we start pk'ing ur provs and u need to pay to reinvite ppl
[8:06pm] <Angels>
dont try and bully
[8:06pm] <Angels>
you mind this going on forum?
[8:06pm] <Angels>
ill post it now
[8:06pm] <PS>
im not being bully
[8:06pm] <Angels>
nah its okay
[8:06pm] <Angels>
posting it now
[8:06pm] <PS>
i dont give a **** what u post
[8:06pm] <PS>
im not even leader in rage
[8:06pm] <PS>
so gl
[8:07pm] <Angels>
you sure act like one
[8:07pm] <Angels>
and i know your leadership
[8:07pm] <PS>
no i have friends
[8:07pm] <Angels>
either way posting it now
[8:07pm] <PS>
who dont like what u did
And there we have it, the utopian police came by.
“If another member of the church sins against you, go and point out the fault when the two of you are alone. If the member listens to you, you have regained that one. But if you are not listened to, take one or two others along with you, so that every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If the member refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if the offender refuses to listen even to the church, let such a one be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.” (Matthew 18:15-17, NRSV)
The Utopian Police? Why did you even message me on IRC? We have no dog in this fight, but after last Age I for one /I cant speak for Rage/ will do everything in my power to make sure people face some action for playing like they are lame. Is it really so hard to play the game that now all people can do is resort to shenanigans and ****ery to play the game. FFSQuote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
The one without sins to drop the stone first.
Looks like some don't like when others don't like to let themselves being farmed. What kind of game is Utopia? Sometimes I have a feeling that most leadership in top are selfish, arrogant and ignorant guys who suffer from somekind of offence r/l and they try to be here what they can't be for real.
Grow up and enjoy the game...it isn't same as it used to be.
Dude, you should go to Tibet or somewhere to find reason of life. What you said is pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixScorpion
Let me phrase things from Pyros point of view, so at least the community can see who was the 1 that dealbroke or who was the 1 that was being unreasonable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
- Pyro waved Legacy
- Legacy Monarch PM Pyro Monarch that he's a bit tired of giving land to the others, but AGREED give Pyro FREE hits till the 4th. He DID NOT STATE not to hit their big provinces. He just stated free hits till the 4th. (If Legacy monarch requested for no hits on bigs, I believe we wont have mind). I dont see why you can bring up that point when talking about free hits. Pyros cannot read minds, we hope we can read minds though. So we can read flogger,elit,drix,tox,pendel,coss minds too!
- Legacy did MS+NS on Pyros provinces before the 4th. Pyros didnt really bother about it, we just didnt want to make noise.
- CF was offered 1 min into the 5th for legacy. Legacy monarch was online but didnt accept it for a whole 50mins
- 1 of Pyro's Orc A came online and saw he got PF+BG+Inteled with all the ops coming in on the 5th (it wasnt just 'spells' that was mentioned above). Proceeded to send troops out to Legacy Province B. This was towards the bottom range of Legacy
- During further talks, Legacy monarch said that he told the guy who pf+bg pyro orc to not hit him on irc. Since legacy monarch was on irc, why cant he have accepted cf?. There was a whole 50mins. between the cf offered at start of the 5th, and the hit that came in.
- Province B retalled Pyro Orc B and also hit another province. Pyro Orc B ambushed and hit back
-Net gains of this exchange on the 5th is +80 acres to Legacy
- Pyros approached legacy monarch on the start of 6th, stating that both side forget all the MS+NS and the nett acres on the 5th. let's CF it up. Legacy monarch took forever to reply. In the midst of the mails, Legacy went on to hit two more times, 1 hit coming from the monarch
- Pyro retract CF and started Drake
- Legacy waved Pyro and started drake.
So, this looks so like Legacy knew that Simians was going to wave pyro, and hence took advantage of the situation.
Simians proceed on in about 4-6hrs to full wave pyro, giving button. When the meter was about 40+ on each side between pyro and legacy.
And after suffering about 99(exact thus far) hits from Simians thus far, and sending an emerald drake so that simians can make more painful hits. Legacy is going to pounce on this situation :D
I am waiting for your declaration.
Cheers
-cJ
Whatever that means, lol. You should learn how to form a coherent insult that contains some originality.Quote:
Originally Posted by ideaotic