RBL vs Bad GFs

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Originally Posted by Maximouse

Nesta, go fight with faegan over that statement. Its your player who made that statement. Not me...;). I just reminded him of his own words.

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I said it was 1-way. Didn't say anything else iirc....

1[15:27] <maximouse> oop war is altijd slecht voor je growth (oop war is always bad for your growth)
[15:27] <F43G4N> Misschien een herhaling YR8 ofzo :D (perhaps a repeat of yr8 or something)
01[15:27] <maximouse> tenzij je een ghetto in war kan lokken op dag 1 (unless you can trap a ghetto into a war on the 1st day)
[15:27] <F43G4N> Zeker (certainly)
[15:27] <F43G4N> En dat was de bedoeling bij ons (and that was our intention)
[15:27] <F43G4N> Hadden 2 ghetto's hostile getikt (we hit 2 ghetto's to hostile)
01[15:28] <maximouse> 6:21 toch? (6:21 right?)
01[15:28] <maximouse> heb ergens een CE gezien (I saw a CE somewhere)
01[15:28] <maximouse> was al een CF (there was a cf allready)
[15:28] <F43G4N> en 1:21 (and 1:21)
[15:28] <F43G4N> Tegen OOP+6 was er een CF ja (at OOP+6 there was a CF indeed)
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For those that dont have dutch as their 1st language I put the english translation next to the dutch lines.
So sorry faegan, but your stating that it was your intention to get a war with a ghetto for easy growth. And for that purpose you waved 2 ghetto's.

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Originally Posted by Maximouse

1[15:27] <maximouse> oop war is altijd slecht voor je growth (oop war is always bad for your growth)
[15:27] <F43G4N> Misschien een herhaling YR8 ofzo :D (perhaps a repeat of yr8 or something)
01[15:27] <maximouse> tenzij je een ghetto in war kan lokken op dag 1 (unless you can trap a ghetto into a war on the 1st day)
[15:27] <F43G4N> Zeker (certainly)
[15:27] <F43G4N> En dat was de bedoeling bij ons (and that was our intention)
[15:27] <F43G4N> Hadden 2 ghetto's hostile getikt (we hit 2 ghetto's to hostile)
01[15:28] <maximouse> X:XX toch? (X:XX right?)
01[15:28] <maximouse> heb ergens een CE gezien (I saw a CE somewhere)
01[15:28] <maximouse> was al een CF (there was a cf allready)
[15:28] <F43G4N> en Y:YY (and Y:YY)
[15:28] <F43G4N> Tegen OOP+6 was er een CF ja (at OOP+6 there was a CF indeed)
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For those that dont have dutch as their 1st language I put the english translation next to the dutch lines.
So sorry faegan, but your stating that it was your intention to get a war with a ghetto for easy growth. And for that purpose you waved 2 ghetto's.

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First, don't be such a douche posting PM logs that were casual & random talk. Second, it doesn't state anywhere that we didn't intend to war. It is you that said OOP war is bad for growth, I merely agreed to it. And yes, by all means we intended to war the last kingdom on our island who were similar in size and also 25 provinces. And seeing current position of that kingdom, they are indeed a ghetto.

The other hits into the first kingdom were to not scare the last kingdom off IIRC (If I Recall Correctly). Please notice that I used this abbreviation in my previous message as well. I am prefectly ok with being wrong, thanks. I just can't be bothered to check logs.

I really need to thank you for putting all this effort into proving....what exactly? I think Nesta's post sums it up just fine.

FYI: changed my mind on logs. I just checked our PM logs and also found a beauty from March 6th 2014 on how CR handles small kingdoms.

Double posted somehow..

I'm just glad we're getting a language lesson. Thx Maximouse. I'm also messing with the homes thing. My version looks comically bad, but thx for that to.

err.. surely a 'ghetto' can be a 25 man kingdom of similar size? - a ghetto merely means that it is of no real threat to said kingdom?

So from my understanding i heard legacy called a "ghetto" a fair bit by CR and others... Does this mean its never a legit hostile when we got waved?

If so cool, will remember that...

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

err.. surely a 'ghetto' can be a 25 man kingdom of similar size? - a ghetto merely means that it is of no real threat to said kingdom?

So from my understanding i heard legacy called a "ghetto" a fair bit by CR and others... Does this mean its never a legit hostile when we got waved?

If so cool, will remember that...

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Spindoctors @ work :)

I never said you didnt intend to war them. I never said it wasnt a real hostile either. I only stated that according to faegan it wasnt a serious opponent that you waved but a kd you considered a ghetto yourself. And that you waved them hoping for an easy min time 1st war. And the logs support that.

If you didnt claim otherwise faegan, and nesta didnt feel the need to claim I needed to get my facts straight I wouldnt have posted the logs.

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Originally Posted by Maximouse

I never said you didnt intend to war them. I never said it wasnt a real hostile either. I only stated that according to faegan it wasnt a serious opponent that you waved but a kd you considered a ghetto yourself. And that you waved them hoping for an easy min time 1st war. And the logs support that.

If you didnt claim otherwise faegan, and nesta didnt feel the need to claim I needed to get my facts straight I wouldnt have posted the logs.

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Serious opponent? Ofcourse it was a serious opponent, we just didn't really think they had any chance of beating us. You do remember saying that PyroManiaCs is one of the best warring kingdoms in the game, right? There's not even a handfull that are better, if any :)

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Originally Posted by 13nesta13

Kd 6 on my island was a farm and not a real opponent? Lol maximouse. They were the only full kd in my island and we waved them right OOP. Somehow before the islands opened up to you I recall they lost a province to self deletion or something. But we're 10k vs 10k land and both kds are 25 provinces at point of OOP.

Seems like we aren't the ones who need to get the facts straight. So I shouldn't have accepted the CF until my troops are home. I hear you loud and clear. Else, waving into us with troops out is legit.

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Most kingdoms would agree that kingdoms making randoms aren't hostile.

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Originally Posted by Zauper

Most kingdoms would agree that kingdoms making randoms aren't hostile.

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No perfect definition cover all situations. Most WW kds use plunders ooh for fill his dragons. This dont make hostile less hostile.

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Originally Posted by Elit

No perfect definition cover all situations. Most WW kds use plunders ooh for fill his dragons. This dont make hostile less hostile.

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Probably why he used the word most and not all.

All would agree with you Nick_you

hi guys, i found a thread that's similar to this.
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...8-RBL-vs-Pyro-!!

cheers

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Originally Posted by TheOne

hi guys, i found a thread that's similar to this.
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...8-RBL-vs-Pyro-!!

cheers

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Stop crying, everywhere you. I can do it but when it happens to me I create threads and link every chance I get, hypocrite crybaby.

Here.
http://flanagansmiles.com/wp-content...lePacifier.jpg

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Originally Posted by American Badass

Elit is a competitor of RBL. Of cause he would claim it is not a hostile and for you to wave us. Are you for real?

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LOL, this is pure gold. If you replace Elit with the name of some sub-top 20 kd you got it right. Otherwise its like saying Kobe is a competitor of Lattrell Jenkins (White Chicks)

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

You can not claim hostile unless 1 side is hostile and the other ATLEAST unfriendly, otherwise the top has broken any rule they have set by randoming into ghetto that are even hostile/war arranged just for the easy acres.

Its a war game, do as goodz say and stop complaining. - That said Warseekers, as war had been discussed before, could have at least messaged and said game on, as RBL had the courtesy to ask a few days earlier before just preparing and waving, and i can understand they are angry at that.

As for all diplo going trough CR, why are they even involved? sure they can ask for war or they could just wave as it was only hostile 1 way, but thats their business.. why stick your nose in someone waving another KD?

So if my ghetto suddenly waved a bigger KD that was mid pumping.. Should CR jump in and do their negotiations too? or should i ask CR to do mine, to "push" the waving KD off me, out of fear of them getting involved? bulls**t, RBL is good enough to fight own battles and Drixx is more then capable of doing good diplo.

My guess is CR needs RBL for the top and don't want a war KD taking their position on ranking that they can not control.

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Dont you remember that RBL helped Havoc organized GB last age and fair play alliance when it was of zero benefit to them. This is payment for help last age, havoc's involvement. Most pathetic shiat i've seen in ages, how many more kds without a backbone, should just disband.

In summary a whoring KD got hit while they were whoring?

lol^