Not binar is cool with me :P
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I told Tetley after second war we will CF him. Hist best move was to declare us instant after we waved him in fort. Maybe he think he is going to slow us for Pew or other kd so they can jump us after we CF. But here wont be any cf till eoa if we dont get war. If Jerks dont understand it sooner they can end like RBL.
Like i said, it always was about the acres. No one cares if they did +4h hits or anything else to finish war. You had intentions to try and get upper hand and farm jerks for every acre they got meanwhile you avoid to get noticed by other KDs. Finaly we can see some true colors from AMA. This is what i wanted to hear.
But let me tell you, it wont work out, but since its the only chance you have i will not crush your dreams.
GL
I had FULL INTENTION to cf them FOR FREE if they did normal WD min time and its CHANGE after they delay his WD and made max gains on our top provs. I made it very clear to tetley if he try to be "smart ass" and not solve it with diplo we will go round 2 and we wont move on till we get second war. You can blame ONLY JERKS LEADERS for being stupid and not accept eoa cf for 5k acres we have offered them.
It had been better to send #officialjerks own bot Crazy to make diplomacy talks with Elit. It knows no limits and its very likely it would have done very good for Jerks crew.
Also i have another fact that needs mentioned, jerks crowned, ama did not!
Sometimes it's more fun to see what movements others make to try and get a crown. Just look at CR/Pyro last age with the prov crown. We saw how far that went.
And don't be misinformed, Pyro is getting like 11k from CR ;p
And if AMA gets a war with Jerks, who knows where they end.
AMA lost early against pew and look where they stand. Top is too close to make a judgement now already. If 2 KDs war, one of them grows like 15k
Aww yiss - made ****s to us!
Only way you don't get a war is if Jerks landdrop or retal with razes and essentially land drop out of rnage :p Mechanics are painful if in losing position. Can't even make it inefficient to be farmed :P 12 hits a day is nothing.
I predict jerks is 1/2 AMA size by time this is over if not smaller.
As a player in the game over the last few years and stuff, I've noticed that most people, leaders especially will try to do whatever possible in order to win as long as it's clear they won't get punished for it. Elit, flogger, and other leaders are nice sure, and may be nice to you also, but don't think they won't use their niceness to give them edges for their own kingdom. You guys gotta do what's best for your own kingdom first, most people that you think are your friends are probably not your friends (in game).
You can't really be mad at them though for this as this is a game, you just have to keep it in mind while you're talking to them and stuff.
There's no point for players to be mad at other players though over moves done in game, sometimes it's tricky for me to be friends with players from other kingdoms since I play in BB, but keep in mind to everyone that i'm just a peon and i just follow orders from Master Flogger :)
Just my thoughts on the situation and keeping relations with other players and stuff, hopefully that made sense!
man u haven't been paying attention kuhan, since thats not what we generally do. We're generally nice to everyone except the one kd we really want to beat for ego reasons, which was rage/sanc in the past and more recently havoc.
Lies!!
Flogger is a hardcore leader that makes others mad, here i'll prove it:
http://i61.tinypic.com/sxnr08.png
Nice Kuhan thanks for pointing out the sub-title of the game! It now comes to mind that once a guy deemed suggestions unwelcome as "this isn't an RPG". Turns out it IS an RPG!
Wrong. Logs from our council chan around 8-10 hours (don't remember the exact timing) before mintime during our war:
[00:58] <Elit> i suspect wd min time but who know
[00:59] <Cello> yeah, I think so too
[00:59] <Cello> they're losing the top
[00:59] <Elit> if they dont its help us
[00:59] <Elit> and im not sure depend how war end if we going to cf them or not
We actually were considering a CF and would've moved on.
Tbf it was AMA fault for not scattering armies a bit to notice +4 hour wave WD!
Like anyone who isn't AMA can see: AMA just using an excuse to further farm a KD that they already beat.
Farming free acres under the guise of "returning an injustice."
You are the kid on the playground who gets in a fight and continues punching the other kid in the face when he is already KO'd.
No honor, just unaccountable whiners.
AMA just remember these tactics: If you want to move up the Charts, don't fight the people above you and take their place, just bottomfeed until you catch up.
Oh wait you got that down cold.
please cry more, your tears taste delicious.
simple fact is we decided to not cf for free, which is our right. jerks declined cf offer and prefer to fight it out, as is their right.
They were presented with options, options they may not have liked but options none the less. A choice was made by their leadership to fight it out, and now we do that. Suits AMA down to the ground, since after such a dull age of whoring, pumping and too much damn diplo last age we all said we want more fights this time round, as is reflected by our daft setup.
If AMA take more acres from the conflict than they would have from the CF it stands to reason questions must be asked about the logic of declining the cf terms.
What doesn't stand to reason is being butt-hurt about any of it. Jerks aren't victims, to suggest so is to insult them.
best age ever......
You're missing the point. Strategically, this is the wrong move.
If Elit's learned anything in the past few ages, it SHOULD be that sometimes the blood in the water that you're smelling is actually poison. But Elit just doesn't have it in him to let a grudge go and not jump on a hot grenade.
Let me spell it out in big bold letters for everyone in AMA that's not getting this:
Jerks has screwed you over in the past, which Elit has publicly condemned them for. Now you've forced a b2b after farming them, effectively ruining any future goals for the age they may have hoped to achieve.
Name one good reason they won't actively work to royally screw you over please.
too much incest at the top.
Palem, such is the nature of the game.
People need to have grudges. People need enemies to oppose.
Was shown by how people started to miss Absalom once it was actually gone.
There's no point being missed here.
Your red text is real fancy though.
Then so be it palem, you dont think theres people in this kingdom that dont feel exactly the F**ing same way about jerks, i would gladly farm them all age and watch pendel threaten to beat us up in real life
Palem, what did Jerks 3-4 ages ago have noting with b2b war now. My punish them for them screwed us was drop ally and show Pendel how wrong was for tell me: Jerks is not any less good from AMA/BB during our talk when i asked him to change his WW bonus to Honor if KD they are in war really decide to WD 1h before EOA. He had few ages to prove how good is his kd when we are not ally and he failed. Dont see reason for go after him personal. B2B war this age is result from Tetley/boss decisions for not WD min time and max gains our top land and WD. Noting personal we juts asked for our acres back and cf them. They refused and told will fight and we do it now.
Maybe Tetley have personal reason for mess with us or he get advices from "smart" people but its only hurt his kd.
Damn, I make one little business trip and miss all this? I've read all pages but 5&6, got bored but had to read the most recent ones.
I hate that I agree with Anri here.
Excuse to farm more.
But Jerks don't belong in the top, sorry. Based kd set up on if you had a perfect age, run orders like you have a CR roster (see tetlers talk about micro managing), do diplo like you have a leg to stand on. War 1 was a complete mismatch, you tactically withdrew from the butt whooping but that means that you have to pay more to get cf. Unwilling to give up 2 hits on Iron Bank, looks like he's 5600 now that's not even a calf at this point (26th on server)
Drop down and fight your beloved Shinra.
^Proof that everything I'm saying is going straight over his head.
*BoH ninja'd me. Obviously talking about Elit lol
You know who was real good at staying off the radar and not making enemies that would want to screw them over? HoH. The winning-est kd in the past 18 ages. Their secret was letting everyone get angry an Abs instead of them, then they would benefit because abs would be under attack and the people attacking them would be under attack from Abs and they would profit.
It's nice having a walking battering ram that will piss off every single kd that finds themselves in the top 10 with you guys, isn't it BB :)
The comments in this thread are just dumb, shows why game is declining.
Why do excuses need to be made to B2B someone? Why are people entitled cfs? They are not.
You can fight someone b2b after war and don't need to make excuses for it, often times its sound strategy. You guys don't remember when BB fought Havoc b2b and farmed them after they didn't gain enough in war 1? People vulture others, people b2b war, people don't cf others when it doesn't benefit them. Grow up seriously instead of making n00b comments.
Palem, why you don't bother comment how Jerks have send dragon and wave kd 1h before they start war with another? Dont you think this way Jerks made enemy? Or you think its ok make enemy when its "ghetto" and only Elit is wrong make enemy and all must love me :P
I assure you we're having a whole lot more fun right now than we did last age, during which we were #1 at this point and pumping science and elites. The majority of KDs have plenty of crowns to lean back on, and imo crowns aren't worth as much anymore as they were when there were more people playing the game. Doesn't mean we wouldn't like one, but unlike you're thinking we're not going to be giving up everything to get them anymore. We'd rather be one of the two/three best KDs in the game and be feared for Elit's way of settling conflict, than have a single crown for having sat on our asses all age. We saw last age that we can outwhore everyone and their dog, and it made us inactive. This is a war game, we fight, and we take what we want within the bounds of the deals we've made from the people who are less good then us.
Ghetto? They beat you out of a crown.
And sure, I'm sure Jerks makes a few enemies here and there. What I don't see is multiple times, every single age, a large discussion being had about the quasi-shady stuff that they're doing that's pissing people off and about every other age a discussion of whether or not gangbanging them is a option for the age.
I'm not saying you need everyone to get down on their knees and praise you for being a saint, but when everyone despises you and doesn't want you to crown...you won't crown.
Proof: AMA hasn't crowned. Many attempts being spoiled by outside interference.
Lol. Lol. Lol.Quote:
The majority of KDs have plenty of crowns to lean back on,
And I wasn't sure if people were trolling about missing abs. The grudge is fine and I find no fault in AMA or Jerks for their actions. Jerks simply needed to be prepared, but this is indicative of a young roster - I'll rewind my comments a little while ago in reference to the first war: Jerks had a bad start with provinces reserving and not showing.
So I do understand Jerks deficit and I sympathize. You can't screen for people who act like bullies and react like victims. Not saying you do, just a headsup. I appeal to Jerks squad to study the film, see what AMA does. You don't copy it, you learn how to defeat it. Linebackers call it running through your tackle.
These are smart people. Never do diplo with smart people. So you know that part.
Not particularly, it doesn't benefit us at all and AMA re-engaging jerks hurts us more than if they had ceasefired. As it stands now, either AMA or the kd that beats AMA next might well be the favorite to win the age. Look at BB vs CR, for example. We win the fight, and the next guy gets all the land. Is AMA being wrong or are the mechanics? Its easy enough to code a 2 week ceasefire at End of War.