Suicide Squad

Wsk and ss have come to a war agreement! Please stay tuned for war summaries and good times. Ascension and fs (and other utopian kingdoms) please stay out of our agreed war.

We can surely setup war after this, winner takes fs loser goes ascension?

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Originally Posted by TheOne

And secondly, you called my crew and me a bunch of ‘idiots’. Well. My crew and me played in many top wars (not your 22 vs 22 man wars. Or mid tier wars), and we know what’s good leadership. You aint 1. You are the idiot.

I was all prepared to be humble and congratulate you on your crown end of age (found out like 2 weeks ago you guys were top WW and honour). Probably would have sent a text to Matt and JJ personally. But I guess you decide to fan this flame first :P Well. we all know what kind of wars you guys had from the 3rd war onwards. I remembered seeing like 22 vs 20 man, or like some crazy nw advantage pre-war. But that’s fine. It’s utopia and it’s important to know how to find wars in the warring tier.

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A good leader is flexible and willing to listen to others. Of course there will be disagreements in leadership seeing that our council is made up of previous leaders from 3-4 different war kds, each with their own knowledge and war tactics. Being our first age together, we should expect clashes of ideas to happen. So trying to work it out and reach a common solution is in everyone's best interest. But that's not what happened, you resort to personal attacks which only adds fuel to the flame. When disagreements happen, it was always I'm right you're wrong. And to top it off you commit the biggest sin as a leader - you left during war when we need you the most. Now you can post whatever news and nw charts you like to show we were leading up to that point, it doesn't take away the fact that abandoning ship during war not only drops the morale of everyone on board and creates further internal tension (you had 7 of your friends/officers in our kd at the time), and when you left 36h into war, although 5 of them stayed loyal and continued to attack when we were down, 2 outright quit and became inactive (you know who you are) and the war became 23 v 25.

No sorry cj, but whatever respect I had for you as a leader is gone. Sure you can run good waves, but that alone does not make for a good leader.

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Originally Posted by Duke_

A good leader is flexible and willing to listen to others. Of course there will be disagreements in leadership seeing that our council is made up of previous leaders from 3-4 different war kds, each with their own knowledge and war tactics. Being our first age together, we should expect clashes of ideas to happen. So trying to work it out and reach a common solution is in everyone's best interest. But that's not what happened, you resort to personal attacks which only adds fuel to the flame. When disagreements happen, it was always I'm right you're wrong. And to top it off you commit the biggest sin as a leader - you left during war when we need you the most. Now you can post whatever news and nw charts you like to show we were leading up to that point, it doesn't take away the fact that abandoning ship during war not only drops the morale of everyone on board and creates further internal tension (you had 7 of your friends/officers in our kd at the time), and when you left 36h into war, although 5 of them stayed loyal and continued to attack when we were down, 2 outright quit and became inactive (you know who you are) and the war became 23 v 25.

No sorry cj, but whatever respect I had for you as a leader is gone. Sure you can run good waves, but that alone does not make for a good leader.

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Who are you again, and what exactly are your achievements? I seem to have missed something the last 11 months... And LOL @ cJ, you should know better ;)

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Originally Posted by markers

Wsk and ss have come to a war agreement! Please stay tuned for war summaries and good times. Ascension and fs (and other utopian kingdoms) please stay out of our agreed war.

We can surely setup war after this, winner takes fs loser goes ascension?

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I don't know what your timeline looks like, but CR will serve notice to SS in 12 ticks, per our deal. Hopefully you plan to be in war with WSK within 48 hours after that, but not sure how you'll manage to go to a second war without dealing with that.

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Originally Posted by Zauper

I don't know what your timeline looks like, but CR will serve notice to SS in 12 ticks, per our deal. Hopefully you plan to be in war with WSK within 48 hours after that, but not sure how you'll manage to go to a second war without dealing with that.

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I think the war starts Utopian March - I believe our agreement had a no notice during hostiles, would an agreed war count as hostile then? Shall we talk on whatsapp I will pm you

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Originally Posted by Duke_

A good leader is flexible and willing to listen to others. Of course there will be disagreements in leadership seeing that our council is made up of previous leaders from 3-4 different war kds, each with their own knowledge and war tactics. Being our first age together, we should expect clashes of ideas to happen. So trying to work it out and reach a common solution is in everyone's best interest. But that's not what happened, you resort to personal attacks which only adds fuel to the flame. When disagreements happen, it was always I'm right you're wrong. And to top it off you commit the biggest sin as a leader - you left during war when we need you the most. Now you can post whatever news and nw charts you like to show we were leading up to that point, it doesn't take away the fact that abandoning ship during war not only drops the morale of everyone on board and creates further internal tension (you had 7 of your friends/officers in our kd at the time), and when you left 36h into war, although 5 of them stayed loyal and continued to attack when we were down, 2 outright quit and became inactive (you know who you are) and the war became 23 v 25.

No sorry cj, but whatever respect I had for you as a leader is gone. Sure you can run good waves, but that alone does not make for a good leader.

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When fellow 'council' members namely copious and markers insisted that my waves were 'bad' and my plans were **** (though stats showed they weren't), and proclaimed that they could do much better job than me and could lead the war better. There's no need for me to tolerate them and lead when they mentioned they could do much better.. (especially when I was dead certain they were wrong and ain't as efficient as me). But I still left it to them to prove me wrong (which always is a possibility). They were willing to take over to prove it, so I let them do so after making the kd from a disadvantageous position to an advantageous position.

We knew what happened after that.

I never shared logs of all the stuff about our conflict because i decided to let what happened within us stay within us. I guess most of you think I made 'personal insults' perhaps of what they told you :) trust me, if you have seen everything. Your view will be different. I showed it to 2 people, 1 of which never played with me before. And he was like 'wtf'.

Thanks for your compliment that I run good waves.

Gl for the rest of the age. Pretty sure you guys will crown

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Originally Posted by TheOne

When fellow 'council' members namely copious and markers insisted that my waves were 'bad' and my plans were **** (though stats showed they weren't), and proclaimed that they could do much better job than me and could lead the war better. There's no need for me to tolerate them and lead when they mentioned they could do much better.. (especially when I was dead certain they were wrong and ain't as efficient as me). But I still left it to them to prove me wrong (which always is a possibility). They were willing to take over to prove it, so I let them do so after making the kd from a disadvantageous position to an advantageous position.

We knew what happened after that.

I never shared logs of all the stuff about our conflict because i decided to let what happened within us stay within us. I guess most of you think I made 'personal insults' perhaps of what they told you :) trust me, if you have seen everything. Your view will be different. I showed it to 2 people, 1 of which never played with me before. And he was like 'wtf'.

Thanks for your compliment that I run good waves.

Gl for the rest of the age. Pretty sure you guys will crown

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Cj you had two waves on opening declare and that is all you could muster. We double that with 1 wave, point blank don't cancel a half funded Sapphire for an emerald on a tm war. Don't waste rogues abilities nsing nm targets when could have taken a mystic out. And actually listen to the kd you are in.

Take care cj

Markers, you talked too much. Inviting troubles now . Good luck.
Also like CJ, wish u in advance in getting double crown. Will u rename the kingdom to rusty?

Also, if I remembered correctly, rusty yet to get any top spot for any of the chart since formed. So will this age be the first and solo lead by markers ... Creating history, outshining all the ex rusty leaders. Good job!

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Originally Posted by TheOne

Hi,
I was informed of this thread by a friend.. and it seems like there might be some 'smearing' against me and a few other players.

I think most prominent utopians would have known that I left cRAZiEs end of last age after having a very good age. The reason why I left was because I felt it might have been cool to have an almost all singaporean/malaysian kingdom and playing more for the social aspect. I already succeeded leading the old pyro to a nw/land crown a few ages back, succeeded in bringing a bunch of random players together and having good fun and ending up #2 (last age with cRAZiEs), and I thought perhaps an all sg/my kd would be fun.

Suicide Squad was formed with my guys who have played with me in old Pyro and cRAZiEs (about 7-8 of us), and a bunch of guys from Matt & JJ kd (old pharma/sweet dreams) + some others.
I managed to secure good CFs with a lot of the top whoring kingdoms during the first 2-3 weeks of the age.. and almost got CFs with strong warring kds like divinity. It was quite frustrating at the start trying to find wars as location was leaked early and peopled avoided us.

During war 1, I led and individually assigned every province hits for 4 out of 5 uniques. We owned by min-time.

During war 2, I led the first 3 uniques before deciding to just set my province for sitting because I was too frustrated at certain people in the kingdom (namely markers and another guy) who are just wtf. These 2 claim to be able to execute/plan strategies better than me and are able to micro/macro weell.. (well. not saying there are pple who cant be better than me) but lol. it was very frustrating basically fighting fire in 'council' the whole time trying to tell these two people stuff they dont know that they dont know.

I decided oh well. since these 2 think they know so much. let them take over leading the war and see how well they do.

for the record,
troops chart:
Jan 1st: (start of war)
514,862 (ASCENSION)
479,362 (Suicide Squad)
We were even in troops when i left (Feb 5th) (~355k troops each). Merchants (SS) vs clerics (Ascension) btw.
Nw chart.
5,700,862 (ASCENSION)) vs 5,590424 (Suicide Squad) on 24th July
140k nw lead (Ascension leading) at the start
4,490324 (ASCENSION) vs 4,643,654 (SS) on Feb 5th
190k nw lead (SS leading) when i left

See the umunk chart below. Uniques are the same for both.

http://i65.tinypic.com/mceuyc.jpg

Well. Shortly after I left. It was lol-able what happened. And SS threw away the lead and got crushed during the next few uniques. Poor decision making and coordination by markers just led to the downfall. i.e taking 7-8hrs to kill a sapphire during azn hrs and a couple of other things which ic ant remember.

After the war, I abandoned my province during eowcf and the rest of my crew followed suit. I had some guys in the kingdom asking where I would be going, and perhaps I could include them in my future plans.

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So markers, regarding you telling the world I was ‘kicked’ out.. sorry. That’s untrue. I chose to leave on my own accord after deciding it’s fruitless and aint fun trying to educate you and the other guy on things that you don’t know you don’t know.

And secondly, you called my crew and me a bunch of ‘idiots’. Well. My crew and me played in many top wars (not your 22 vs 22 man wars. Or mid tier wars), and we know what’s good leadership. You aint 1. You are the idiot.

I was all prepared to be humble and congratulate you on your crown end of age (found out like 2 weeks ago you guys were top WW and honour). Probably would have sent a text to Matt and JJ personally. But I guess you decide to fan this flame first :P Well. we all know what kind of wars you guys had from the 3rd war onwards. I remembered seeing like 22 vs 20 man, or like some crazy nw advantage pre-war. But that’s fine. It’s utopia and it’s important to know how to find wars in the warring tier.

I must say that SS core provinces (i.e the non leaders) are actually a very active bunch, and listen to orders. My crew and I were actually quite impressed when we saw how active they were. It can potentially match top kd’s activity in a top tier important war.. that I must admit and give it to them. Knowledge wise isn’t important in the game as long as the player is active and listens to advice.

Good luck for the rest of your age, and congrats in advance if SS honour/ww crowns.. seems to be so.

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Is there a tldr version?

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Originally Posted by Feint

Also, if I remembered correctly, rusty yet to get any top spot for any of the chart since formed. So will this age be the first and solo lead by markers ... Creating history, outshining all the ex rusty leaders. Good job!

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This KD is SS (for now) not Rusty :)

I miss Heiney.

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Originally Posted by Feint

Also, if I remembered correctly, rusty yet to get any top spot for any of the chart since formed. So will this age be the first and solo lead by markers ... Creating history, outshining all the ex rusty leaders. Good job!

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Nah i think we sticking with suicide squad moving forward. Although you have to appreciate the irony of wsk provs BIB = BoB !! BoB vs rusty rematch of the century! !!

Way too much whining here, let all the kds do what they have to do, to fairly and within the framework of the game, win. Always people who whine 'why didnt you war us, why didnt you war them, you avoided the awar, war us again' and whatever else.

well we warred FS, Divinity and Suicide Squad. Suicide Squad was by far the toughest opponent. In my humble opinion they totally deserve that honor crown this age. No offense FS and Divinity y'all are great but this age Suicide Squad , at least in their performance against us, rocked it.
And we definitely did NOT give them a free War win. We may not always win but we always fight hard.

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

well we warred FS, Divinity and Suicide Squad. Suicide Squad was by far the toughest opponent. In my humble opinion they totally deserve that honor crown this age. No offense FS and Divinity y'all are great but this age Suicide Squad , at least in their performance against us, rocked it.
And we definitely did NOT give them a free War win. We may not always win but we always fight hard.

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Who are you? I feel left out. Lets war! =)

who are you? :P

and also, if you are in range next age I am sure we will ;) done for this age though.

Very nice comments Goodwitch <3
We were definitely at our best this age in that war and put up a great performance. Lotta love to Lost Souls for a good fight

This puppet theater is amusing, all to hide the fact its pretty much merge of Pharma and Stoners, unholy alliance after they both got deleted for fake warring eachother =)
Feint tries so hard, its like watching special olympics =)

Yet both Divinity and FS havent lost a war. Afaik neither said no to a war all age.

Both > SS.

Not really. They also haven't fought each other since....?

And that's not a dis, that's ok. Thusly, and respectfully, undefeated is fine. The crown has always been about it's achievement alone. Remember SWEA? :-) I do. Do you know why?

It's important because intuitive thinkers rule this game.


09:53 Knight u guys are out of ur mind

^ this is how I play,lol

If they win they win. If you guys are so convinced that SS don't deserve the crown then why not do something about it. You sirs are the real cowards and not SS who just did their best. Even the "best" boxer can be sucker punched. Me? I'm going to raze them in their next war.

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Originally Posted by citadela01

This puppet theater is amusing, all to hide the fact its pretty much merge of Pharma and Stoners, unholy alliance after they both got deleted for fake warring eachother =)
Feint tries so hard, its like watching special olympics =)

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Lol not even close but that is a funny theory

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Originally Posted by Abscond

If they win they win. If you guys are so convinced that SS don't deserve the crown then why not do something about it. You sirs are the real cowards and not SS who just did their best. Even the "best" boxer can be sucker punched. Me? I'm going to raze them in their next war.

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Aww did I not please you this age?

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Originally Posted by citadela01

This puppet theater is amusing, all to hide the fact its pretty much merge of Pharma and Stoners, unholy alliance after they both got deleted for fake warring eachother =)
Feint tries so hard, its like watching special olympics =)

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Do u need me to tag up so u will know I not in SS, lol. But not sure u can even find me in the ranking chart even if I tag. Lol

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Originally Posted by Abscond

If you guys are so convinced that SS don't deserve the crown then why not do something about it.

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^this.

I'll never understand why people think their tears and opinions make a difference.

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Originally Posted by markers

Aww did I not please you this age?

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Markers, due to my love for u and your rusty, I don't care who u be warring. But I going to hit u , even in war.
Eoa. Time for some drama!!!!

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Originally Posted by Feint

Markers, due to my love for u and your rusty, I don't care who u be warring. But I going to hit u , even in war.
Eoa. Time for some drama!!!!

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Aww thanks bud, means a lot you still care about me!

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Originally Posted by Feint

Markers, due to my love for u and your rusty, I don't care who u be warring. But I going to hit u , even in war.
Eoa. Time for some drama!!!!

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I don't know about Pharma or Stoners or what not. I do know about Karma though ☺️

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Originally Posted by Palem

^this.

I'll never understand why people think their tears and opinions make a difference.

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XD don't encourage them, want a legit war with wsk! As I'm sure they do too

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Wsk and ss have come to a war agreement! Please stay tuned for war summaries and good times. Ascension and fs (and other utopian kingdoms) please stay out of our agreed war.

We can surely setup war after this, winner takes fs loser goes ascension?

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Talk is cheap I very much doubt there will enough time left in the age, but even if there was something else would come up.

Best of luck to Wsk. Please pit at least two of SS's princes, preferably all of them.

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Originally Posted by AlphaQUp

Talk is cheap I very much doubt there will enough time left in the age, but even if there was something else would come up.

Best of luck to Wsk. Please pit at least two of SS's princes, preferably all of them.

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It's gonna be a fun fight. But wsk and us had this war building since before our war with lost souls. We're probably gonna lose or come out limping haha

Good luck to both!

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Originally Posted by markers

Aww thanks bud, means a lot you still care about me!

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Which province you are...Tell me, I will pay u a visit...otherwise it will be a hit on each prince t/m.
Of course I will hit you before you war so that hit is considered legitimate. Anyway we dont have any CF deal in place...

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Originally Posted by lampost

Good luck to both!

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Dont need to Good luck....WSK sure lose.
They just belong to different tier.

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Originally Posted by Feint

Which province you are...Tell me, I will pay u a visit...otherwise it will be a hit on each prince t/m.
Of course I will hit you before you war so that hit is considered legitimate. Anyway we dont have any CF deal in place...

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You never told me what kd your in so i dunno who to contact for cf. I humbly offer feint and his crew a cf. Oh and I might have taken over a dwarf :P

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Originally Posted by markers

You never told me what kd your in so i dunno who to contact for cf. I humbly offer feint and his crew a cf. Oh and I might have taken over a dwarf :P

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I am not joking with you. You can troll whatever you want. If i dont get an answer within 12 hrs from now, you will see hits flying in. By then even you get Mat to talk to me, will be too late.

Oh yes, Cf deal- sure---only after 10 hits on your province, then I will CF you.

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Originally Posted by Feint

Markers, due to my love for u and your rusty, I don't care who u be warring. But I going to hit u , even in war.
Eoa. Time for some drama!!!!

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then they've got 2 guys to hit them while they are in war with WsK since they are stealing from me while they are still in their EoWCF..

June 1 of YR13 Shadowlight has revealed that hari harimau paku (SS) was responsible for this attack.
June 1 of YR13 24,261 runes of our runes were stolen!
June 1 of YR13 We have found thieves from hari harimau paku (SS) causing trouble within our lands!

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Originally Posted by Elixir

then they've got 2 guys to hit them while they are in war with WsK since they are stealing from me while they are still in their EoWCF..

June 1 of YR13 Shadowlight has revealed that hari harimau paku (SS) was responsible for this attack.
June 1 of YR13 24,261 runes of our runes were stolen!
June 1 of YR13 We have found thieves from hari harimau paku (SS) causing trouble within our lands!

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Is that marker ?

See what I started in this thread, you are all my minions!!!