Republic of Octobrev - Double Hostile w/ Strippers & ghetto

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Originally Posted by Kestrel038

Once again you make things up Korp. Your "nub province" ( I do like how everyone in the game who isn't YOU. is somehow a nub.. but I digress).. didn't message me until AFTER Sheisters last kingdom and your "nub friends" killed you off.. Accuse me one more time of something I have taken no part in and you'll discover how much of a ***** I can really be.

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Random provinces in our kingdom are nub provinces. Don't like it? **** off nobody gives a ****. And no, if you don't desist you're going to learn what we're capable of.

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Krynn came to you last night and asked for diplo talks.. you and Steel played up like little children and said "It's all up to Bishop" who happens to be a very busy man between looking after this game and no doubt his other responsibilities. If your own kingdom and Sheisters old kingdom start killing you off before Bishop can be online for more than 30 minutes to try and work something out, the responsibility for that lies with the person/people who refused diplo to Krynn and instead childishly handed it all on to Bishop Next time, don't be a **** and maybe that kind of thing won't happen.

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Krynn refused to diplo with Korp or myself. We agreed it would be Bishop's turn. Lost & Krynn both seemed to accept this fact. There are several posts in this very thread where Krynn says there will be no diplo on your side of things with Korp or I. You are a two-faced deal breaking *****, and there are public logs, in-game chat, and forum posts to prove it. You are honestly maybe the worst monarch I've ever seen if this is how you conduct yourself.

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But I'm guessing you'll now come back with another load of tripe to suggest why several people that nobody here has even spoken to decided to kill you off is somehow OUR fault

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That nub had a lot to say about his talk with you. Unless you think some random retarded province made up an elaborate story just for kicks?

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Get them to send you the message. When someone asks me who has been involved in our "conflict" and I send them a list of 5, I don't consider it a "kill list". I never once encouraged them to do anything to assist us.. I never once asked them to hit any of you. I challenge you to prove otherwise.

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Samsung - 07:31
go ahead and be king if u want and im sure u will end up like love original

Samsung - 07:31
X:x queen has messaged me a kill list

Samsung - 07:31
u r next on their list fyi

He keeps talking and talking I can post most...

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Side note well over 24 hours now since "diplo" started, and Bishop (your appointed diplomat) has been online for a total of about an hour. Do you expect us to sit here for 3 weeks waiting for you guys to get your crap together? I understand that Bishop is a busy man. and as the rest of you are far too childish to man up and talk to Krynn, anything that happens in the interim is entirely your own responsibility.

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Diplomacy takes time. Especially when your negotiator formally refuses to speak to 2/3 of our 'leadership'. You're hilariously ****ing bad at this.

15:37 bishop samsung decided to post that we shoudl kill you off so you cant respewn
15:38 bishop so i need to get monarcy to reinvite you
15:38 korp Im about to recreate?
15:38 samsung that wasnt my intention
15:38 samsung it was from abi
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15:54 samsung You will notice we have actually razed several provinces down to the 100 acre mark as they are part of a group that has been threatening to raze int our wars. If you choose to remove their last 100 acres, we would be more than happy to count you among our friends and would happily CF you for whatever period was required
15:55 korp the whole msgs with sender recipent etc.
15:55 korp -s
15:55 korp .delprov love original
15:57 samsung Inbox Compose Sent Trash Game Date March 17 of YR7 Real Date Fri, 30 Sep at 10:17 GMT+00:00 Sender Queen Abigail the Blessed of Dungeon Diva (D:D) Recipient Lord Samsung the Skeptic of Samsung (R:oO) Subject Re:Mutual Agreement Pact The ones who have been involved against us are as follows. Love Original, Ops ops ops IvannaBlikeOctoPls Hmmm In The Lan
15:57 korp Ty

No. that clears things up... thanks for taking the time out to deal with my "hard of hearing". I'll re-read things but I tentatively ask for you to pardon my misunderstanding.

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Originally Posted by Kestrel038

Once again for the hard of hearing, we didn't "random into a small ghetto".. we followed a guy who had razed us in war 44 times..

The "poor hit" you're referencing was actually against a kingdom within the 90-110% range. The small ghetto player "asked" for nothing, he demanded his CF or else he would, and I quote "Make the rest of your age a living hell".

The matter was dropped and a CF was put in place And by his own admission, Sheister then started kd hopping so that he could raze into our wars. The only "smaller ghetto" we have hit has been RoO since Sheister joined

Is that all clear or do I need to explain it one more time?

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wow, all I can say is "meh"

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Originally Posted by Kestrel038

Once again for the hard of hearing, we didn't "random into a small ghetto".. we followed a guy who had razed us in war 44 times..

The "poor hit" you're referencing was actually against a kingdom within the 90-110% range. The small ghetto player "asked" for nothing, he demanded his CF or else he would, and I quote "Make the rest of your age a living hell".

The matter was dropped and a CF was put in place And by his own admission, Sheister then started kd hopping so that he could raze into our wars. The only "smaller ghetto" we have hit has been RoO since Sheister joined

Is that all clear or do I need to explain it one more time?

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So, by your own admission, you CF'd the kingdom I was in rather than deal with me and you got what you were asking for. You razed me 3x and then CF'd to "show me" how things get done. I just returned the favor to teach you that you should not take people lightly or be an arrogant prick as you stated with absolute certainty that I had no right to do diplomacy or that I was in any position to threaten your kingdom. Once again, you were wrong, you are wrong, you will continue to be wrong because you are myopic in the extreme.

Bye steel, see you in 3 days.

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Originally Posted by Bishop

Bye steel, see you in 3 days.

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Have you been pulled from talks. I have not been. As of this moment I still have the backing of the team on this.

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Originally Posted by Pillz

That nub had a lot to say about his talk with you. Unless you think some random retarded province made up an elaborate story just for kicks?



Samsung - 07:31
go ahead and be king if u want and im sure u will end up like love original

Samsung - 07:31
5.10 queen has messaged me a kill list

Samsung - 07:31
u r next on their list fyi

He keeps talking and talking I can post most...



Diplomacy takes time. Especially when your negotiator formally refuses to speak to 2/3 of our 'leadership'. You're hilariously ****ing bad at this.

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Korp - 17:51
I once had relations with a dolphin

Korp - 17:51
His name was flipper

Korp - 17:51
Can't say he was much of a talker but the pool parties were fun.

Oh wow.. look I have proof that Korp sleeps with Dolphins... NOT!

Post a screenshot of these messages I've sent saying they should kill you off and here's a kill list. If you cannot post anything more than a log that could easily be fabricated before posting then you have NO evidence whatsoever of your claims.

And as for the Diplo, it was made ABSOLUTELY clear to you and Korp by ME last night that Krynn was prepared to speak to both you and Korp, but you both jumped up like little kids saying "oooh he doesn't want to talk to us, you'll have to wait for Bishop"

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Originally Posted by Pillz

15:37 bishop samsung decided to post that we shoudl kill you off so you cant respewn
15:38 bishop so i need to get monarcy to reinvite you
15:38 korp Im about to recreate?
15:38 samsung that wasnt my intention
15:38 samsung it was from abi
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15:54 samsung You will notice we have actually razed several provinces down to the 100 acre mark as they are part of a group that has been threatening to raze int our wars. If you choose to remove their last 100 acres, we would be more than happy to count you among our friends and would happily CF you for whatever period was required
15:55 korp the whole msgs with sender recipent etc.
15:55 korp -s
15:55 korp .delprov love original
15:57 samsung Inbox Compose Sent Trash Game Date March 17 of YR7 Real Date Fri, 30 Sep at 10:17 GMT+00:00 Sender Queen Abigail the Blessed of Dungeon Diva (D:D) Recipient Lord Samsung the Skeptic of Samsung (R:oO) Subject Re:Mutual Agreement Pact The ones who have been involved against us are as follows. Love Original, Ops ops ops IvannaBlikeOctoPls Hmmm In The Lan
15:57 korp Ty

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Just to clarify. Samsung messaged me asking for help in killing Korp as he already had votes and wanted monarchy. (I think he even tried to offer a FW arrangement in return for the help.. maybe he really IS a nub... but anyway). I explained that we had killed korp several times and he kept respawning. I informed Samsung how the mechanics work and what it would take to remove him. I also explained that he had several friends in the kingdom who would likely try to get him back/cause trouble. (Obviously I didn't even give the war offer a mention).

Samsung messages me back asking who his friends were. I replied saying. "The ones who have been involved against us are as follows...

At no point did I offer, agree or suggest any collusion, I simply answered his questions to the best of my ability.

Now... some might say.. that a previously inactive province. sat on millions of gc.. suddenly coming alive and getting in touch with an "attractive proposal" in exchange for a FW, MIGHT possibly be an attempt by someone in RoO to get me to break the rules.. perhaps set Samsung up as Monarch, get me to agree to FW. then get us both deleted but of course.. I'm not cynical enough to think that

I am cynical enough to think that someone suggested he message me so that they had an excuse to cancel the ongoing talks and stir things up again. Seems strange that whilst he was apparently plotting your downfall and eradication from the kingdom, he was still sending aid to your chums.. and sat conversing with you in IRC..

You tell me where the real collusion is taking place.

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Originally Posted by Kestrel038

Korp - 17:51
I once had relations with a dolphin

Korp - 17:51
His name was flipper

Korp - 17:51
Can't say he was much of a talker but the pool parties were fun.

Oh wow.. look I have proof that Korp sleeps with Dolphins... NOT!

Post a screenshot of these messages I've sent saying they should kill you off and here's a kill list. If you cannot post anything more than a log that could easily be fabricated before posting then you have NO evidence whatsoever of your claims.

And as for the Diplo, it was made ABSOLUTELY clear to you and Korp by ME last night that Krynn was prepared to speak to both you and Korp, but you both jumped up like little kids saying "oooh he doesn't want to talk to us, you'll have to wait for Bishop"

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I can assist in confirming exactly what you sent, just say the word.

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Originally Posted by Krynn

Have you been pulled from talks. I have not been. As of this moment I still have the backing of the team on this.

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See PM.

Thank you to those of you from top 10 that posted your experiences. I am astonished that some of you find nearly every war a raze happens. As far as 'police action' goes though you could raze outside of war, I don't really see a reason why that needs to be offered up as a reason to be able to keep raze into war.
I'm still with Noobium on the war and razing issue.

My sympathies really are with DD, I've read what you posted Sheister and I still feel that the amount of griefing you went in for before you went to OOR was really totally unreasonable, kd hopping to do it shows that you were playing solo, your old kingdom joining in razing you now (assuming that's true) speaks volumes cos they are also clearly mad at you, and so I understand why DD are really upset and mad.

Though I think DD would have done themselves favours if they'd accepted your message that you were done with it once you moved to OOR, I can understand why they would think you were just screwing with their minds now as well as their wars, so didn't believe you, it's pretty understandable.

I don't blame DD's leadership either even if she did give out a kill list, though I think she perhaps doesn't understand that it wouldn't resolve her particular problem with threats of raze into war long term.


However, given that I'm sympathetic and even that I fully appreciate the rage, hate, total frustration and carpet chomping level of anger that DD leadership is probably experiencing, I am finding it hard to be fully sympathetic with you Kestrel.

When you talk about a third party being 'hard of hearing'' (bearing in mind this thread is 32 pages long and a lot of back and forth, and differing perspectives have been posted) and then shout out Pilz and Korp not wanting to diplo with you when it was at DD's own request that this was handed to Bishop, it really does not help your cause one iota.

IMO you really would serve your own purpose better by dialling back the hate, if you can't do that you would be better not to post.

I'm not going to get into logs and messages because I think no third party has a chance of knowing who to believe on that, to be frank. But if a kill order was sent out - it's up to the provinces in that kingdom whether they do it or not, isn't it? It's just that it doesn't really help so kinda anti productive.

(You nublets in ROO, I hope you are looking after any actual new players, please please please get them to defect into a kd that will give them a chance to actually play and has game play goals, don't let them just go inactive or fester in a corner, or play at FSU when they've not even experienced the real addictive game)

I've seen a very apt quote from Madchess in another thread

I belive if you get to that point (razing) with 3 seperate kingdoms witin half an age there is seriously something wrong with the way you do things, it was not because those 3 kingdoms got mean towards you.

Of course if you count the provs in their own kd that are razing, that's 4 kds razing you guys, not even 3....

I'll be razing into DD's future wars as well. I haven't had a province in I don't know how many ages now, but their actions here make it very clear that I must return. If you come to my home (the forums) and chit all over the place I am going to come to your house (in game) and piss all over the rug (no matter how much it ties the room together). I will also take Sweetiepie's loc in PM, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

I'll be razing into DD's future wars as well. I haven't had a province in I don't know how many ages now, but their actions here make it very clear that I must return. If you come to my home (the forums) and chit all over the place I am going to come to your house (in game) and piss all over the rug (no matter how much it ties the room together). I will also take Sweetiepie's loc in PM, thanks.

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You'll be lucky, I'm a nobody :)

So how come you posted this in response to my question if you haven't played for ages, anyway?

Extremely common. If you go into a war and expect no outside razes then you are either foolish or are BB (because how can you not love BB?).