Didn't he die...twice?Quote:
Originally Posted by RemoteAdvisor
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Didn't he die...twice?Quote:
Originally Posted by RemoteAdvisor
By the hand of a 17k acres ghetto while having 3 banks to feed him...Quote:
Originally Posted by Remote
So.. I know you big guys are all super busy discussing important stuff, shaping the future of utopia and what not, but Zauper, you really should log on your prov and vote for monarch since our last one deleted.
Oh, btw, go fairplay!
You were the bank, I got broken :(Quote:
Originally Posted by RemoteAdvisor
I feel like he took over a thousand hits that war, but checking papers it was only like 250
So just to confirm, this is the first you're hearing of it nick_mi?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick_mi
and if, hypothetically of course, I was told that nick_mi specifically asked gacib if your kingdom was hitting AMA 5 hours before he hit and then gacib posted the hit this would be purely coincidental?Quote:
Originally Posted by RemoteAdvisor
I can't tell what is going on outside of the in-game chat, because that is where we talk, but I can tell you that AMA ****played us last age and we monitored them all age long for the right time to strike. It wasn't a secret for our kingdom and when we noticed they weren't training defense on their fresh new banks, we WDed from our 3 weeks war just to strike them. Our razes were 100% payback.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
Also, I can tell that all smart kingdoms without CF were monitoring us coming out of war with big acres and big offense. For example, there is a guy from BB named Darkie that sent me an ingame msg about a CF. It appears CR was also monitoring us and either guessed we would be hitting AMA or one of the ghetto player might have told them we were going to hit them. For all I care, it doesn't make a difference, because our razes had nothing to do with any top kingdoms, it only had to do with AMA ****playing us and being the only kingdom on the top to not notice us coming out of war.
Its look like correct diplomacy :) Did you accept raze acres last age?Quote:
Originally Posted by Drixx
I was making fun and trolling maximouse and Cerberus_v666 when i told them i want from you give us n1. Just when you tag Fair play you must care for it. You say im plan to take revenge over kds involved in GB. Its true so back to source on problem. Its started 4 ages ago with Havov/Sanctuary double hostile us for stop AMA win age after we clean beat ABS in 1vs1. Where you was all guys to promote fair play? Did you was in ABS kds involved in this ****s? If you really want to make game better set example and restore justice from past 3 ages. WE loss n1 result from **** play past few ages. You want better game, work for it and set precedent!
My second offer was legit too. Its AMA and all kds involved in GB land-drop and gave up land chart. You think we deal broke Havoc is bad, i think you all deal broke us is bad too. Why you can judge my deal broke is not legit and your is legit? Because you are stronger in my age off? Sure but its can change next age and age after it and sure i can prove in long term you was wrong one there :P
If you want to avoid it and you can admit what you did was INSANE LAME im offer all kds gave up land chart. KDs not involved in GB this age deserve much more to win land crown. For example i had bad grudge with Pew Pew but i don't see them GB us. Its alone is good enough reason for me forger all past and being happy if they win age now.
Sorry i forget about Simians: WE all need to agree Anri cant use banana drink for 1 month and he will go meditate for 30 days in mount for clear his mind!
Remote from last age have posted with different nick last age. Why you have new reg?Quote:
Originally Posted by RemoteAdvisor
I know People in Havoc good enough. Im sure you are direct linked with them. And when there is no targets its look suspicious how you got CFs with all big kds. Its not hard to farm you and its what big kds do every age.
As you can see early in this thread, me and my buddy Remote (the reg from last age) are exchanging jokes about a "gacib". Obviously I'm not Remote, I'm his advisor. We got CF with all big kds because they are obviously smarter than you. They cfed us, they didn't get their banks razed. You ****played us last age because it's "easy to farm us", we cost you any chance at a crown this age. We will see eachother next age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
About last age, we had retal war all age. Its take 2 sides for it and i offered you several times CF, was rejected.Quote:
Originally Posted by RemoteAdvisor
About next age. Looking for it and you :)
Can we stop spamming so i can see whats going on in Utopia. Because i don't know wat's going on. And noone provides cliffs nemore...
Im disappointed from Band of Horses sit JSS. There is not recent post with Tractors. Still he sit better from BinBin and JSS wont find his prov dead. Considering Situation its prove Band of Horses is doing not so bad :PQuote:
Originally Posted by KuhaN
It's pretty established at this point that we were not intending to play for crown this age, hence all the early wars, Polar Bears tag, and taking on 2 wars as the underdog that we didn't expect to win. The early cf had nothing to do with you, Proteus, or 'removing top competition'. That may have been why you guys agreed, but that's to be expected. Using words like charity is just lazy spin... it was a good faith deal that went bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godly
Everyone knows Proteus always comes off as a dick, but the real joke here is that he certainly isn't wrong.
BTW all this "fair play" Grup start show his face. Rusty joined on razes us when we never cross path in past. Guess why? For get protection from rest kds and masive explore.
Criminals say: catch criminals. Its all about ppl involved in GB.
Since Flogger has been going around sharing from our private channel and claiming that it shows us to have been coordinating with remote in the razing I thought I would post his logs/argument and the actual logs/events here.
Flogger claims
1: Gacib told us about the razes 5 hours before they happened based on a quote "platypus2 gacib you retalling ama?". He claims that this shows that we coordinated the hits.
2: Gacib was our main war leader in the past 2 ages, especially last age and thus is leadership in our kd this age
The reality
1: The quote listed by flogger happened 6 hours AFTER the raze. In fact, if you read earlier in the same log you get such gems as:
<@Gacib> i had 0 to do with it
and
<@Benjamin> i think it needs to be said that gacib had nothing to do with it, we infact told him when he woke up lol
Furthermore the first time he logs on he states how he posted the razes in tactics before posting in our channel: [20:43] <@Gacib> oops, didnt mena to post that in tactics!
So not only did we not coordinate, but the person we supposedly did coordinate with wasn't even aware that it was occurring and didn't talk to us about it until after it happened and after he posted in a public channel. At the time of the razes he was 107 acres and highly inactive. In the previous 2 days of logs he exclusively discusses some sport(cricket?) and hearthstone. You have to go back almost to the previous age to see something related to Utopia
On the other hand. Elit has admitted that he razed(i believe raze killed even) remote last age and didn't cf him despite Remote having razed Rage for many acres.
and 2: Gacib was not in council or war leading last age. This age he is an inactive ghetto dweller who talks about british sports with Indians.
I apologized to Prot earlier in this thread and I think I deserve the same thing from Flogger. I demand an apology from flogger for spying on our channel and then not even having the courtesy of actually reading his stolen logs.
lol, so now Gacib and therock play in that "ghetto" so fun, so CR what name is NeXT ?
is there a kingdom with lower morality in UT ?
Zauper and freinds back to there old tricks with Shell kingdoms helping em out.
haha good stuff ;)
This just gets better and better...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey^Mike
So Havoc used his shell to raze AMA before his war with Pyro and we got GBed for **** play.
Welcome in age 60 fair play rules :P
Lool is this a Cricket reference?Quote:
Originally Posted by topsy's revenge
It's some dumb Aussie sport. Could be cricket, who the hell knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetley
I'm curious how a kingdom lead by two people I don't know that elit started a fight with is my shell, though. Because one person I know plays there? I guess AMA is my shell too. And, well, just about every kingdom.
Topsy, maybe you should post the logs from earlier in the age where Gacib mentions that the kd hates AMA and I tell him to try to get them to drop the grudge? Or maybe cello / elit should post the logs where I went to them with ingame messages from the remote and warned them of what he was planning (last age). Or Topsy post the logs from earlier this age where remote was threatening us?
No, that would be too logical. It makes much more sense to assign a boogeyman and blame them for something they aren't responsible for.
I'll ask again for proof that CR is in any way involved or responsible.
As there is none, I expect all of you will be apologizing for your stupidity.
I asking again zauper plz provide proof that you are not involved.
When the plot becomes a reasonble explanation man need no proof.
Can't prove a negative. Plot isn't reasonable. Feel free to explain how you think it is, though. I'll listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey^Mike
Ps - See the above, evidence was posted to the contrary. I guess reading isn't your strong suit.
zauper, how's the super dirt cheap beer in Nam?
I read very well just the bull**** filter removes like lotsa Things, normal its like 90% of your post.
Free beer best beer. Having one now!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOne
So does mine. Here's what your post reads:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey^Mike
I have no evidence but am feeling dip**** animosity so I will attempt to stir things up even though I know I'm wrong.
Pls stop. You are embaressing yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
Yes, lets require that Zauper proves he didnt do the things you accused him off if he can not then he is clearly guilty...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey^Mike
I guess you are a big fan of the North Korean judicial system?
I just don't get why people are not still razing AMA.....
Why would they? The top gained what they wanted and want to continue winning the crown, smaller kds don't want to die :).
We are nobody's shell. Moreover, we don't really like most of the people in that kingdom - it's why I threaten them with razes every age. They're just smart enough to CF me, as opposed to you, who hit me into postwar and then sent taunting messages saying you will give me a CF or keep hitting me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
You literally hit me into postwar for thousands of acres last age, after telling me you wouldn't do that, then sent me messages saying you would do me a favor and CF give me a CF after taking 4k acres because otherwise you'd hurt me further. Any search for other reasons is not needed - you brought this on yourself.
That's not me, obviously. The funny part is, he's the one who razed your bank. I only razed the smaller provinces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
So there are no ex-CR players from this age in that kd?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
You hit us into hostile, we retaliated in kind. You took our intel into postwar, I asked what was going on, you said you were just checking threats and would not hit us. Then you hit me into postwar for about 3,000 acres. Then you sent me messages saying you would do me a favor and CF me, or else you were going to keep beating me up. I told you I wasn't going to take acres, razed you a bunch and promised you I wouldn't be forgetting your dirty play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
I'm amazed that you can't figure out why we razed you this age, or why we're going to be razing you next age and every age until you apologize both for your dirty play and for pretending like this was anything other than your fault.
For those in doubt, we treat all kingdoms fairly and have agreed to a kingdom principle that as long as people don't treat us like assholes, we won't be assholes to them. Jerks dealbroke us last age and hit us into postwar - they apologized, so we let it go. Legacy dealbroke us this age and hit us into our raze-fest - they apologized, so we made a fair deal and let it go. Honestly, it isn't that hard. We don't ask that we don't be hit or that we don't fight, just that we be treated by fairly standard rules. Don't hit us into hostile, don't hit us into war, don't hit us into postwar, and if you make a deal with us, keep it. If you screw any of that up, apologize and talk to us and we'll figure it out. Of course, if you ignore that and treat us like assholes, we'll be even bigger bastards back. It's obviously in everyone's best interests to just play fairly with us, but for some reason people think they deserve special treatment, then get surprised when they get treated like **** by us. Payback is a *****, you get what's coming to you.
Let me lead everyone to another observation: is it normal for "unorganized" ghetto players to be so active in forums and doing PR? Seems like someone with deeply rooted interests here to me...
Just for fun, I dug up my post explaining our actions from last age. This was from December. I suppose the fact where I basically promised to do this two months ago (prior to the age even beginning) was ignored, though I can't figure out why new motives need to be assigned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remote
Please do all of us in [Kingdom Name TBD] a favor and don't be surprised when we raze AMA again next age. Once again - until we receive our apology and acknowledgement that they played unfairly with us and were wrong, we'll be doing this every age.
You are more than welcome to try. Id be very surprised if we fall for it again, most likely if we find you, you will be farmed before you can even cause any damageQuote:
Originally Posted by Remote
There is one. At the time they hit you, he was aprox 100 acres. Maybe 107. Are you saying your banks were razed by a 100a prov? Perhaps you meant razed by a kd with one of our former players? Are you also blaming me because my ghetto made a raze on you in the GB?Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
He was there when they threatened us for a CF, too.
The monarch (or steward? - the one who played remote last age) is some ex rage player, I think. I've seen his name once or twice but have no access to logs and the name was not one I knew.
And elit, it's an issue of effort. We Cfd him without hits last age and this because he's much more obnoxious to deal With then other similar provs, especially after seeing him fight you last age. I'd rather hit dralex or outplayers or true ghettos that overgrow in war. Sure, I could take the acres, but then I'd have to train up and trade hits for days. Doesn't seem worth the payout.
And....be smart here, folks. You can build a kd in a day at EOA, there's no reason to have a shell. If I did have one, it would be ED, and filled with retired players of mine, not abs kids.
Never been afraid of a fight :) To be fair, we're now 2-0 in our raze fights vs AMAQuote:
Originally Posted by Fury
It's fairly simple, really. Ghetto kingdoms are the easiest targets for acres, since they have the least recourse for getting them back. It is in most people's best interests, then, to try and take my acres from me. This means it's not in their best interests to give me a ceasefire deal, since that locks them out of getting my acres. If I want ceasefire deals, I need to both show that I won't give anything away easily and that if I'm treated unfairly, I'll make the offender suffer much worse than what he would have gained. If I don't, I'm just Outplayers Empire - handing out acres, calling some token retals "justice". I've set a fairly simple and easy precedent for everyone: treat us fairly and we'll treat you fairly, attack us and we'll attack back plenty hard, **** with us and we'll **** you over a lot worse than you did to us.
As long as we get fair treatment, we play nicely. When Beastblood waved us last age, we gave them the wave and walked away with a CF. No dealbreaks, no razes - they played fair, we play fair.
I'm amazed that a concept this simple is so difficult to understand.