Sheister vs Sampuan

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

We understand the warring tier philosophy just fine. It is flawed. If you think honor is not relevant I guess you haven't been playing the last few ages? The honor crown is far more sought after than the WW crown. And most of the last few ages honor crown has been decided by acres, YOU being one of them. So eat your unlimited waves and tell me you're going to crown.

This is nothing new for Pyro either. They've farmed smaller kds for weeks at a time, like divinity.

You'll lose your acres, military, resources, honor, science, and time. If you try to run to another war there is no rule that says they have to stop, so really is it all worth it? I don't think your kd is so short sighted that you look at 1 war at a time and don't look at age goal. Maybe you expected more kindness and sympathy out of Pyro after dragging them around trying to force NW win... I wouldn't have.

And you don't understand the JEB! quote. He's referring to the general election in comparison to party primaries, if you pander and go too far right while getting the nomination like Mitt Romney did in 2012, you end up losing the general. Congrats on winning the primary over Pyro, I don't like your odds in the general.

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I am not in FS. Also I did get the JEB! quote. What I am saying is the general only exists for Pyro, because FS don't care about out of war. Also from my experience with them in the past, they only go for honour crown if the opportunity presents themself (It's not something they actually aim for).,

The longer pyro hit FS and there is no round 2, the further they will hurt the relationships of the two KDs. These retal wars/one way chaining, tend to end sooner rather than later. Both KDs begin to get bored and utopia becomes a worse game in terms of entertainment. It can even turn into a chore.

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

complaining about getting waved is quite different than complaining about attitude and motives..

edit: im pretty sure there are many other 4 ww kds with more honor than us, will you continue to attack them too after us - or you are only attacking us to earn more time for spartans war?

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I honestly can't answer that because I don't know any of our cf deals. I don't know our kds motives only mine. I haven't looked at these other kds either. Are they all as underpumped as fs? Fs seems to be quickest way to get what we want.

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Originally Posted by Touchdown

I honestly can't answer that because I don't know any of our cf deals. I don't know our kds motives only mine. I haven't looked at these other kds either. Are they all as underpumped as fs? Fs seems to be quickest way to get what we want.

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would you mind explaining how are you farming those resources you mentioned?

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Originally Posted by Palem

Maybe they didn't appreciate your "They would have won with a friendlier attitude" shade that you guys threw at them and then vehemently defended.

Maybe you guys wouldn't be getting razed with a friendly attitude
*shrugs*

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

It's FS, not "us guys".

Anyway, FS was being friendly until they started getting razed.

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FS was being friendly because they didn't want to get razed. Most people saw this coming from a mile away.

FS won the war, but lost the ability to compete with Pyro. I just don't see why anyone would expect Pyro to stay out.

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

FS was being friendly because they didn't want to get razed. Most people saw this coming from a mile away.

FS won the war, but lost the ability to compete with Pyro. I just don't see why anyone would expect Pyro to stay out.

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FS was being friendly because Pyro and FS have been friendly over the ages and probably didn't want to ruin the relations, FS doesn't have anything left to prove this age and most of their players are veterans that you have to kick in the but to even care enough to log in at wave time so I doubt their main motivation is: "Oh God anything but getting razed, lets suck up to Pyro instead."

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

would you mind explaining how are you farming those resources you mentioned?

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We will take honor by doing traditional marches and science by doing learns.

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Originally Posted by Touchdown

We will take honor by doing traditional marches and science by doing learns.

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And the razing is the most efficient way to take, oh wait...

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Originally Posted by Touchdown

We will take honor by doing traditional marches and science by doing learns.

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quite smart of you - but id like to hear it in light of what you have been doing since your 'round 2' has started..

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

And the razing is the most efficient way to take, oh wait...

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It's an efficient way for pyros bigs with no range to lower the nw and def of fs provinces to open them up to pyro smaller provinces.

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

quite smart of you - but id like to hear it in light of what you have been doing since your 'round 2' has started..

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I'm not sure what you're saying there. I see learns and tms in our news.

Edit that might be a plunder and not a learn. Can't remember what the text says for each in news

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Originally Posted by Touchdown

It's an efficient way for pyros bigs with no range to lower the nw and def of fs provinces to open them up to pyro smaller provinces.

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That's the most efficient target KD you found? Man Nesta really losing his touch, no offense.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

That's the most efficient target KD you found? Man Nesta really losing his touch, no offense.

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Well with no retals it's incredibly efficient.

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Originally Posted by Touchdown

Well with no retals it's incredibly efficient.

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Yeah, you wouldn't want it to go to war being a warring KD and all. Thanks for the explanation.

It's quite easy to see why Pyro would raze as a bunch has already mentioned in this thread, to lower defense/acres in order to bring nw inrange of pyro smaller to gain good amounts, raze is the best option as not so easy to train back + no long term damage to FS other then the science/honour (wiz, tpa still same and improving), so in that aspect you can see it as a sign of letting FS off to fight another right after if that's their wish.

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

It's quite easy to see why Pyro would raze as a bunch has already mentioned in this thread, to lower defense/acres in order to bring nw inrange of pyro smaller to gain good amounts, raze is the best option as not so easy to train back + no long term damage to FS other then the science/honour (wiz, tpa still same and improving), so in that aspect you can see it as a sign of letting FS off to fight another right after if that's their wish.

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Yes! I am sure that's what they are going for.