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That can be very misleading to begin with, you can have someone that has army in and out all the time but dont spend more than say 1 hour online and then you can have nubs like me that spends quite some hours online in utopia but never bother with having army in/out. So that would make me more "active" ..Quote:
i think at least making an activity meter would help a lot - something like average time spent online per day.
haha i get what you mean, but that seems like a pretty extreme example
Yeah remove anon that way they can see your kingdom too.
120 characters is just SO FEW.
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I'd be ecstatic to see some flexibility in the recruiting system. As for activity meter, that would be cool to have to reference, but not to necessarily hinge the search parameters on that. I.e. let people be honest about their activity so they aren't auto-locked out of being able to search for a KD that has a high activity requirement... BUT give me a little graph what this person's activity is, and I will decide whether to take it with a grain of salt or actually pay attention to it.
Options, flexibility, being able to interview and set up waiting lists. It must be a much more dynamic system. Give us the basic simplicity of the current system, with room to expand, investigate and interview, and be very thorough with our decision-making if we choose. All the top KDs must be thorough and careful with their recruiting.
Am I asking too much? :P Implement even half of the good suggestions in this board and in-game recruitment will be a PRIMO feature and will (hopefully) have a positive impact on the culture and fun of Utopia. Get people matched up with a KD they can succeed in! That's always the biggest challenge and the biggest reward of this game.... :)
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HERE I EVEN MADE YOUR KD FEATURE BETTER WITHOUT ALL THE EXTRA HOOPLA THAT WAS JUST IMPLEMENTED AS A FEATURE.
HOW ABOUT YOU ADD AN EXTRA LABEL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST ON THE PROVINCE DETAILS PAGE (WHICH IS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE-SO NOT ABUSEABLE) WITH A DROPDOWN BOX TO SELECT LOOKING FOR KD / OR/ NOT LOOKING FOR KD,,, THEN LABEL IT "RECRUITMENT STATUS"..
IF CANDIDATES SEND YOU THEIR APP AND COMMUNICATION IS THAT MUCH EASIER.. YOU ALSO HAVE A VIEW ON THE POTENTIAL CANDIDATES CURRENT PROVS AS A BIT OF EXTRA EVIDENCE OF CANDIDATE WORTHINESS.. ex
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Race Human
Land 1110 acres
Net Worth 194,685gc
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i just simplified and made your "recruitment feature" and made it 1000x better at the same time. with a lot less code ..
Would make it a lot easier feature for monarchs to recruit future members, and vice versa, than the current feature( a good attempt at in game recruitment) ...but it needs to be simplified...
Last edited by JAZZE; Yesterday at 23:17.
Can I suggest possibly changing this whole system to people looking create these infomation boxes and then monach just invite who they like the look of?
IE same system but Applicants create a recruitment campaign. All kingdoms see it. All kingdoms can invite that person. Applicant gets to decline / accept and auto join kingdom (You can only invite if you have an invite)
Applicant leaves :
Role :
Contact :
Description :
Activity :
Experience :
ALL KINGDOMS GET TO SEE ALL APPLICANTS.
you could very easily add something like that to whats existing. I.e. all players who want to be recruited must create a recruitment profile. You then either send that profile to a kd (ie with contact info such as irc/msn whatever) or u can post it as "looking" Then in the same way players can currently look for kds, monarchs can activly recruit players, via big list of players.Quote:
Originally Posted by American Badass
Also as it stands now there almost way to sort through kds you want to join. only "big" kds are going to activly recruit succesfully. would be nice to have ALL the kds on a single page, in a list form. kinda like prov's in a kd. Then u see Size, goal, requreiments..., monarch msg. sortable by any category.
American Badass and persian.. I THOUGHT I JUST SUGGESTED THIS WITH MY POST... THO MINE IS A LOT SIMPLER AND EASIER TO IMPLEMENT
its the same concept I'm just done outside the players profile and done via a "recruitment" profile......Quote:
Originally Posted by JAZZE
then my additional suggestion to that was was instead of the WALL of text and multiple pages like it is now, or to be viewable on the persons prov page via "status" was to take a collect all people who are "actively" looking for kds on a single page viewable by monarchs to show
.......................Applicant.....Current prov..........preferred roll......Experience.....Activity..knowledge...Comment (add irc/msn here)....
Msg the player...NAME.........New/link to profile... Any/A,T/M......and so on
Have ALL players who are activly looking be in a list that is sortable by each column so monarchs can quickly scan to find who they want and msg the kd.
Heck i'd prefer something like that over the current walls of text for the kd joins like
Msg the monarch....KDNW(rankings in the 1-10 like it is now)...Land...WW....Honor....Kd goal..Willing to train new players...Desired( Experience..Activity..Knowledge...role)..Comment (click to expand)....
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That way ALL kds are listed on one page and a new player can sort by all info or desired activity level to find a kd faster
Doesnt hurt small kds as you dont have to click 10+ pages to get to their recruitment, just have to scroll down.
You'd end up with a list of
KD...Land...WW....Honor....Kd goal..Willing to train new players...Desired( Experience..Activity..Knowledge...role).........Comment (click to expand)....
4......3.........9.........4.........War.........Yes...............................................0 .................3..........4........Attacker...Join #KD NAME to talk
5......10.......8.........5.........Growth......Yes..............................................3.. ...............2..........5.........Attacker...Join #KD NAME to talk
I have played in a lot of ghettos. There is no danger that the recruitment page will remind people they are in a ghetto. It will be obvious from war flops, the kingdom page, the forums, and frequently the monarch messages.
When I start defecting I usually end up bouncing through 5 or 6 kingdoms within an age. That means dumping my ghetto early so that I am in a kingdom where I intend to start the next age. If the recruitment tool works I my be able to slow down the defection rate.
I am not going to spend $10 to take a blind chance at some guy who has a name, race, personality, that possibly does not fit with my kd without having a chance to talk to him and make sure he changes to what I need before he comes.....
good idea but we must be able to communicate with the recruits before you expect us to spend money to move them into the kd...
Then stick your contact details in your recruitment ad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefaerydust
cause its moar work?
This is probably way more difficult than just making it so kd's have the option to choose people's race/pers(if the recruit has ok'd joining a KD that does that), but it could be cool if you expanded the in-game chat to recruitment. Basically have it like an in game IRC chatroom that you can open on the recruitment page, and then can pm individual kd's(goes to monarch) and then the monarch can respond(private messages are saved in a log that both have).
Or easier and probably better: have it so someone looking for a kd gets anonymous mail from monarchs after they've sent their message asking to be invited. This would allow a little back and forth between recruiter and recruitee. Would also allow both to see how long it takes for the other to get back which gives a better idea of activity. Even this paired with letting monarch select which race/pers would make people more willing to spend the money to invite.
Also, are you guys tracking how many provs are getting into kd's via the new recruitment tool? I'd love to see that after a bit.
There's nothing wrong with this system. Applicants can either send their loc or if you can put your contact details in your campaign. I guess you could even put in your kd loc if you wanted. It seems some people want to complicate matters as a matter of principle.
The fact that it is not conducive to top kds interviewing people, well, come on, you've always filled your slots, and your waiting list, just fine before. Yes, I think this recruitment process does favour the ghettos slightly, who are going to be less fussy - but they are the very folk who don't have a full Utopia list of players they can approach, so I think there's nothing wrong with that.