All must clap! Bluorr wins 'Nub of the Age' award.
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All must clap! Bluorr wins 'Nub of the Age' award.
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As a note - i stole mostly from the enemy "ROGUES". As a second note - stole 70 mil from the absolutely entire top. Not from xxx in particular. I maybe stole 5 millions from them. I understand that others are playing the game and want to enjoy it also, i have no intention of ruining anyone's age.
I always tried to spread . If someone had 60mils i stole 3 4 mils. Never went overboard. Warcry been where this guys are, we know its tough , but atm the top is a bunch of chickens, just relying on CF's. When something is not going as planned, they poop their pants instantly, and turn to, oh my god, panic time.
When people will recall there's only 4000 people in utopia and the only way to keep going is proper interaction, thats the time the game will be a lot more fun to play.
Atm - to sum it - small kingdoms to be able to have fair wars mostly use a ridiculous amount of terms to be able to have a fair start, and top kingdoms just have a ****load of CF's to be able to have 1 2 weeks preparation for the time they will actually war.
pretty boring. Anyway - xxxs age is ruined, they can keep razing us and show us whos the 120k acre kingdom, but, we won, we won big time. Their comonrach is starving, half of their kingdom is starving, i guess disband might even come. I do not like this, and i would say its not our fault for them being such sore losers, as no 20million gold could have made such a different in the RAPE FS gave to them.
FS can confirm - we stole equally from them, they asked nicely, we cf'ed. Yes - i admit, we missed the message 5:18 sent to us, but not out of spite - it just happened.
In the past , i always got messages from monarchs - please back off, we are getting in hostile - i would like to hear some of them replying here and telling me if i did not keep my word?
I'm thinking razekill party.
With the knowledge that you've stolen from everyone (and took lots), I doubt anyone here believes any punishment is too extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluorr
tbh, dunno why we're crying, i find it entertaining.
x:x disbanding will be the saddest part of this
Yeah I'm starving. I lost hhalf my acres and went inactive. Oops. And The U wars. We didn't whore. We gred from pool and warring mostly. Also The U will never disband until erv kremlin or myself stop playing and even then we have back up monarchs. You didn't ruin our age. Don't feel like big men. I ruined our age by messing up cow fight with fs.
Also remember you were not provoked. We did nothing but try to diplo. I have messages with other small kingdoms asking them to cf and to ask us for gc instead and we made friends out of it. But yall just totally ignored us and kept stealing.
Ah, good old WarCry. Now it all makes sense :D Is Sephi still around?
vdshark, the game is very different from what it was 20-30 ages ago. For better or for worse, it's different. Glad to see old faces back in the game !
so - every time you guys asked me ingame - i didn't back off? Bubitwo province here btw. You just had to be more insistent. Explain to us why you need the gold. Ask around the top including FS. We stole from them heavy - they said - we need the gold for hostile, please **** off, done
Don't expect perma cfs or that you will play your cf games with everyone.
And if we didn't ruin your age;d then why are you so sore:X
also sephi is playing - he never stopped - i was on and off, sometimes an age off - kingdom is warcryish but not named warcry anymore due to the fact that none of the old leadership can be responsible atm. I simply cannot believe that now at 30 i need to tell current monrach i can't wake up:)). I recall being a little ***** 15 years ago to everyone else for not being able to wake up and attack at 1 AM.
WHY? BUT YOU NEED TO - YOU SEE UTOPIA IS LIFE - your attack= most important! WKE UP!
just wanna remind you that it was your kd that started this thread cause you didnt understand why anyone would raze you (you as in your kd)
whatever, i never have enough energy to argue with you or with the kingdom
raze ahead, age is done, when you're bored well carry on with our ****, you will have your summer age, done
ah suddenly this thread started to make sense :P
"A faery there BubiTWO (x:x) robbed alot of gc from me before and I told him if he do it again I will raze him. Now he did it again. "
From one of my provs just now.
Well then... What shall we do about this?
raze ahead, i will keep stealing you keep razing
the fun is on - not gonna just play a different game just cause you're bigger. I steal gold, you raze, its a fair trade.
If the top land kingdoms still live in the past and think they can get away with 100mil gold stacks just cause they are in top land and they can exec raze revenge they are disillusion.
4000 players, 200 kingdoms. You will forcefully interact with us. Even if all other kingdoms are gonna pussy out, and they will cf you cause you threat them with razes, i will personally make sure we live on the same planet.
Kill me, i rebuild tpa, i steal again, done:)
Yay!Quote:
Originally Posted by Panthira
Also, ET doesn't require relations, just saying :D
I'm no expert and as frightening as this may sound, vdshark is a bit better at diplo than bluorr imo :D
Gosh, I sure hope my invite to the razekill party doesn't get lost in the mail.
now i understand everything;D thats why that dood is such a defender of justice here - cause he has something to gain from his former competition. Guess when you got nothing to lose, you just give up
i just hope this guys wont encounter hardships irl:))
Pewmeriti () has broken their ceasefire agreement with us!
** The kingdom of **
Total land exchanged: +6,988 (12/0)
So much hate. Don't u guys have a heart :/ ?
Im cheering for you fatty!
I would never forget a razekill party invitation for you, Mab!
They look preoccupied atm though. ;)
Seems like a lot of scrubs trying to jump on the bandwagon suddenly.
Funny how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
bad Korp - you saw brevik is a normal human being this days? he doesn't even talk to us anymore
what a dick
also not so fat anymore, kind of fat, but not super fat
Ummm I do believe I stated we sent many requests to stop stealing and they went ignored. I also had others do tthe diplo because I can be a jerk. Yall ignored us repeatedly and left the cf just sit there unaccepted. We got no response from you until the razes started and now you qq. I mean I don't know what you expect. The stealing has gone on all age and we been messaging all age. We are not your bank. So suck it up buttercup because we won't get bored.
Remember when you first joined Utopia and your Monarch told you not to steal from the big KD's ? This is why..
Wonder what crazy animals' Monarch feels about this ? One KD member insulting various leaders from top KD's while another promises to keep up his behaviour + hit into future wars..
Next age diplo could be fun :)
i never qq, i just #gluttony
lololo
So .. The problem is that I show no remorse. Even if I apologized countless times for any wrong doing that we might have done.
I`m the noob of the age for voicing the fact that we did in fact accept/accepted any punishment but ... I consider raze-killing a too harsh and extreme punishment. Yes, I am indeed the noob of the age - for thinking even for a second that the community is anything else than a bunch of no-brainers who enjoy others being hurt.
I get all the top Kds on my head as future enemies. Not all. I have the certainty that out there there are a couple of monarchs who`re not so feeble minded and blinded by their own arrogance. I`ve been called a liar by Binar. He said we didn`t have Cf, he didn`t demand the Cf, they didn`t wave us, nor "trim" us. Some posts before this one ... there`s the proof that they actually did wave us, and the Cf is in place and they did hit us/trim* us before accepting the Cf, a Cf which came as a demand from them ... or else. And I`m the liar, making stuff up ... Imagining things.
*trim = we offered acres and Cf to be left alone ... in case people want to pick up on the phrasing
To sum up, most of you "the greatest utopian players", tried only to twist my words. I didn`t come for help nor sympathy. All I wanted was a fair and objective opinion. Two things that do not belong in your vocabulary. You read only what you want and is convenient and you ignore everything else. You don`t even comprehend the ridicule of stating that the mouse is actually the bad, dangerous guy in an environment of lions. You`re sheep, automatically following whatever some top Kd says ... Because, you got no idea, but they`re big, they`re known ... So they must be right, innit?
Read the above post. And if you would have read the previous pages, you would have noticed that I was more than civil, apologetic. For a big amount of hours and a big load of pages. I reckon the situation degenerated only at page 5-6-7. I ignored all others` taunts, Binar`s taunts and arrogant remarks till a point. If you would also be attentive, you would notice that vdshark didn`t participate in any discussion. He only joined after the whole thing with Binar went fubar. But yea man ... We`re at fault, isn`t it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jotun
Uh bruh, just read what I've already told you, no hate here, I don't enjoy others getting hurt just as I don't enjoy stealing into people's prep. You had my attempt at being objective but you focus on the negative. I like you when you are strong minded and opinionated, a bit less when you try to play the victim card, that's what Binar probably got a bit mad about at you. Nobody here is as dumb as they might look :D
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Originally Posted by Jotun
bruv, you can't call yourselves top kingdoms lol - its just whatever is left after everyone else quit age #50
oh let me pay to win my spot to win, let me buy sitting for my entire kd.
I dont say i didn't cheat, but it was with some risk behind. Everyone else was cheating. You guys have it the easy way, please don't insult the former top kingdoms by calling yourselves top:D.
You can call yourselves, middle at best.
Well, since you have stolen lots from like everybody in the top i guess most think - huehue pewpew - right now, what goes around comes around i guess.
Is the "punishment" over the top? Depends from whose eyes your looking i guess.
I guess alot doh, im just a nobody.
I never intended to play the victim card. Perhaps my subjectivity got in the way at times, especially towards the end of the evening when I was out of energy and patience, hence the lash out on Binar. But even that, it was my doing. Tired or not I was aware of my actions. Today, if the table is set for a chit chat with Binar, I will gladly oblige as long as we`re at the same table as equal human beings leaving arrogance, stubbornnes aside, both me and him.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
But back to our discussion Matija. To be more precise: I would consider 1-2 ... hell! 3 razes - fair for the damage done. Would you agree with me? Or do you agree that raze-killing is the fair punishment?
On a joking side-note, as a close friend of mine taught me, this situation is an "au kurac" situation. I probably pronounce it better than I write it :D
dood blu, just leave it be.
You should really read everything I already said, I try to not say this in a condescending manner, you will find your answers there or basically a confirmation of what you are already saying in a way.
This "a u kurac" situation is your own doing, you are not supposed to be enjoying this, that's the whole point, just like they didn't enjoy getting GC stolen into their prep. There really isn't that much to discuss here, you have no power and no real case, what can I tell you, I sort of feel for you but then again I don't because I imagine I would be able to assess the situation for what it is better myself than what you are doing at the moment.
My personal opinion is of zero relevance here, might makes right, do I consider 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-infinity razes "fair" here? I don't know, some people need more, some need less, some might never learn, it is what it is.
Don't get stuck up on things like right or wrong in Utopia, it rarely matters in the end, I don't know how long you have been playing this game but that becomes apparent after some time, strange that you refuse to recognize this. In your position I would act more like vdshark than you I think, go down with a bang, stay a prick 'till the bitter end so to speak.
bluorr, the problem is not that you don't show remorse. The issue is, has been, and always will be that you did not spread the stealing enough and you completely ignored diplomacy. You might get away with stealing from a group quite a bit if you have a willingness to cease fire afterwards. But you go and do something stupid like noticing a bigger kd so you can steal more. You are just asking to get yourselves killed. The succesful smaller kingdoms typically pick their spots concerning stealing. You may only get to do it once without causing yourselves major trouble so make it count. As many have said in this thread, you must avoid being memorable. Frankly everything you have said has been pretty asinine. Quite a few of the people here are not speaking from a top Kingdom perspective but from one of just pure reason and understanding of how conflict works in this game as well as how it is typically resolved. I'm not sure how many times we as a community are going to have to deal with the stupid moron who cries in the forums because he's being killed and thinks it's unfair when the kingdom who was doing it warned the guy that it would happen if stealing didn't stop. When someone says if you do this again I will kill you and you don't stop, are you trying to call their bluff? Can you complain when it turns out not to be a bluff?
We are glad to have joined the middle-tier!Quote:
Originally Posted by vdshark
My personal take on this:
1. Yes the U should be able to retal and duke it out with them.
2. No I don't think a bunch of KDs should coordinate to razekill them.
Since when is stealing into prep punishable by GB/organized razekilling? Are we going to GB every KD that hits into a warring tier KD's prep? This should be an issue between the U and crazy animals, and other KDs should respect a 1v1 conflict. Sure, if Animals during their conflict with the U try to steal from other top-KDs to fund it, action can be taken. But as long as Animals keep it 1v1, we as a community should respect that. As far as I can see Crazy Animals did not DB anyone, hit into their wars or stole during hostilities. Sure, everyone likes people to respect their prep, but I've seen many top-KDs claiming here that they take a SN before hitting, even into WAR AGREED tags. If there are no hits = no hostile.
Bluorr - millions of gc's stolen = 2-3 razes ?
How does this translate into science/Learns ? Could a ghetto half your size take, say 500k-1million books and they'd get off with 2-3-4 razes before they'd get a CF ?