Fake War

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Originally Posted by Korp

Well your side seems to think you have a Free pass of truth since you believe that everything you people say should be considered the truth. "Oh but we invite you this room that shows us that we dont cheat" yea like thats a proof of everything. lul. But sure there is a bunch of random people out there with no relaiton to each other that is out to get you man. Cause AoD is such a big and great alliance that needs to be smeared.

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You just undermined your own argument. You were offered transparency and discussion on the alliance, to talk to the actual players and many Kingdoms. You were the one who turned it down, instead favouring some people popping in and bad mouthing AoD with no evidence. You made your mind up and you are not to be turned.

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Originally Posted by Rincewind

You just undermined your own argument. You were offered transparency and discussion on the alliance, to talk to the actual players and many Kingdoms. You were the one who turned it down, instead favouring some people popping in and bad mouthing AoD with no evidence. You made your mind up and you are not to be turned.

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As I brought up in the post, what is to say that isnt just a front? How can we truly believe you? Cause lets face it if you were the dirtiest alliance out there you for sure wouldnt come right out and show it. Its as much evidence as your claims, whats more likely is that bunch of random people are telling the truth rather than someone from the named alliance would admit that they are just a bunch of ****ty cheaters. You also made up your mind, you wont change your opinion, even if your founder just got deleted for cheating.

You're deluded man. If you think i cheat then you are a moron. If you think everyone in AoD cheats, then you are a moron. If you think some people in AoD cheat, then yes, amongst many Kingdoms some will always. But i'd wager that it is likely far less than the so called Top Kingdoms.

But the same can be said of all Kingdoms. Have you ever played in alliance where everyone was 100% clean? Or a Kingdom where you could vouch 100% everyone was playing squeaky clean. No, because you can't and you never will be able to prove that. So your arguments and the chip on your shoulder about whatever it is you are angry about can just remain. And you can sit and call me a cheater all you want. But it is not the truth.

Please do not insult users

Dear Korp,

Most of us have offered Pam nudies to ban you. In fact it is still a standing offer from me. :)

Dear Zombies,

Playing in an alliance that has a founder that fake wars, and member kingdoms that hit into war, 2v1 etc without booting them does reflect on you imo. Even if the alliance doesn't do a single damn thing to encourage it.

Dear StratO,

Surprised you haven't left that kingdom already to be honest. You never cease to surprise me though. Hope work is good and you are too.

Regards,

makeo

p.s I haven't reallv offered Pam nudies. I always assumed he was immune to bribery.

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Originally Posted by Rincewind

And i trust the friends and players i play with more than some ignorant, big headed elitist I've never heard of :)

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'elitist' is a hilarious insult.

What's it mean exactly, they youre hostile towards people who know what they're doing?

You are playing in an alliance founded and led by one of the most comically incapable alliance leaders the games ever seen. With a year's long record of doing exactly what you people claim is not going on. You're policy, thus, must be one of total ignorance, based on the idea that you're obligated to reject everything from outside your organization because there's a grand conspiracy against AOD, as I'd ant of us would give a **** if it weren't a problem.

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Originally Posted by Palem

Please do not insult users

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You referring to him calling me " bunch of ****ty cheaters" ?

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Originally Posted by Rincewind

You're deluded man. If you think i cheat then you are a moron. If you think everyone in AoD cheats, then you are a moron. If you think some people in AoD cheat, then yes, amongst many Kingdoms some will always. But i'd wager that it is likely far less than the so called Top Kingdoms.

But the same can be said of all Kingdoms. Have you ever played in alliance where everyone was 100% clean? Or a Kingdom where you could vouch 100% everyone was playing squeaky clean. No, because you can't and you never will be able to prove that. So your arguments and the chip on your shoulder about whatever it is you are angry about can just remain. And you can sit and call me a cheater all you want. But it is not the truth.

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Personal attacks such a mature response, will really get your point trough. I didnt say that anyone except Diamonds were a cheater but I said if AoD and you were cheating you hardly would admit it out here in the public.

I could actually, for the first few weeks of this age my kingdom of was guaranteed 100% squeaky clean, then I took down the wall and we got some randoms so cant be sure. :) What an actual alliance would do if found kingdoms were using shady tactics or founder getting deleted is to kick those mentioned kingdoms and put some very long distances to the founder. Instead you guys are all in here defending and claiming its just few bad seeds shouldnt matter cause majority of us behaves.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Personal attacks such a mature response, ...

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Irony at it's finest.

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Originally Posted by Korp

What cant take a joke? Also yet again, you offered nudes to mods to get me banned

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10-11-2017, 13:56 #35
Nudes to the mod who limits Korp to one post/day for the age.

In case anyone missed what Korp is crying about. Yes, a joke from like ever ago.


-DM <3

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Originally Posted by Pillz

'elitist' is a hilarious insult.

What's it mean exactly, they youre hostile towards people who know what they're doing?

You are playing in an alliance founded and led by one of the most comically incapable alliance leaders the games ever seen. With a year's long record of doing exactly what you people claim is not going on. You're policy, thus, must be one of total ignorance, based on the idea that you're obligated to reject everything from outside your organization because there's a grand conspiracy against AOD, as I'd ant of us would give a **** if it weren't a problem.

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Elitist. Glad you found it funny, i guess you would. But basically just means players who grandstand and who throw 'Noob, 'Nub' or 'Ghetto' around at every kingdom other than the top 10.

And again, i think it's been address, but i'll repeat. You cannot tar what is now with past failures. Whether its Diamonds still playing or not. Things change and people change. But maybe not all people aye? :)

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Originally Posted by Rincewind

You referring to him calling me " bunch of ****ty cheaters" ?

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I'm referring to just about everyone posting at this point

Hmm kd location in forums now. War proposed war accepted. Doesn’t make it a fake war. Bad decision by a bad monarch, which I’ll add they left as monarch after previous war by Not voting him out before. They could of voted him out during The eowcf. But punish the kd that accepted the proposal by not giving them the war win and it’s benefits. They would won the war and nothing shows it was fake. It was clearly just a bad move from a bad player that the kd left as king. They could have voted him out at anytime but didn’t. So explanation is needed from you new admins/owners as to why your inference was needed? Also take locations out of forums. This wasn’t a fake war just a bad decision made by the whole kd, as they didn’t vote him out of monarchy. Didn’t break the rules and wasn’t a fake war but still get punished. So please give an explanation

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Originally Posted by Korp

Personal attacks such a mature response, will really get your point trough. I didnt say that anyone except Diamonds were a cheater but I said if AoD and you were cheating you hardly would admit it out here in the public.

I could actually, for the first few weeks of this age my kingdom of was guaranteed 100% squeaky clean, then I took down the wall and we got some randoms so cant be sure. :) What an actual alliance would do if found kingdoms were using shady tactics or founder getting deleted is to kick those mentioned kingdoms and put some very long distances to the founder. Instead you guys are all in here defending and claiming its just few bad seeds shouldnt matter cause majority of us behaves.

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You should probably re-read what you wrote. But you did call us all a 'bunch of ****ty cheaters'

Many years ago a very very good kingdom by the name of Playboys was part of NH ,They were one of our flagships that age.They were asked to detag and leave the alliance because of things they were doing that was not how the alliance was meant to work and their actions put a bad light on all of us. One good kd doing bad things yes puts a bad light on the entire tag. Was one of the hardest boots i ever made.It hurt the entire alliance losing them but not asmuch as the damage we were taking because of their actions that age.
A few newer players dont seem to understand how alliances work in this game .

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Originally Posted by Rincewind

You should probably re-read what you wrote. But you did call us all a 'bunch of ****ty cheaters'

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I am well aware of what I wrote, I even explained to you what I wrote since you didnt seem to grasp it. But how can you 100% sure AoD isnt bunch of cheaters? I mean, have you vetted every single person in AoD and made sure that they havent cheated nor will cheat. How come someone from AoD just got deleted for cheating?

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Originally Posted by Thunder TA

Many years ago a very very good kingdom by the name of Playboys was part of NH ,They were one of our flagships that age.They were asked to detag and leave the alliance because of things they were doing that was not how the alliance was meant to work and their actions put a bad light on all of us. One good kd doing bad things yes puts a bad light on the entire tag. Was one of the hardest boots i ever made.It hurt the entire alliance losing them but not asmuch as the damage we were taking because of their actions that age.
A few newer players dont seem to understand how alliances work in this game .

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Its a losing battle Thunder, they will just claim you are wrong and they are right PERIOD:

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Originally Posted by makeo

I always assumed he was immune to bribery.

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"There's a price for everything"
-Abraham Lincoln
-Micheal Scott

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Originally Posted by makeo

Dear Korp,

Most of us have offered Pam nudies to ban you. In fact it is still a standing offer from me. :)

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Please, you want me just the way I am. :)

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Originally Posted by Korp

I am well aware of what I wrote, I even explained to you what I wrote since you didnt seem to grasp it. But how can you 100% sure AoD isnt bunch of cheaters? I mean, have you vetted every single person in AoD and made sure that they havent cheated nor will cheat. How come someone from AoD just got deleted for cheating?

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Hmm, maybe just your bad use of English then. But it certainly read as if you were calling us all cheaters as its more likely than these people were telling the truth than us admitting cheating. But i address you to my previous post in which i stated exactly what you are saying, Of course you can't vet every player for cheating, nor is there a method to actually find out, at least not by players. So you must take the word of people and their play style, and what happens in game. Trust is involved and sometimes that can be abused. But it is not correct to brand everyone with the same mistakes of a few.

Some people in AoD cheat, but not all players in AoD are cheaters, it is a simple statement, but true. As is some people in the Top 10 Kingdoms cheat, but not all Top 10 Kingdoms are cheaters. Do you see?

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Originally Posted by Rincewind

Hmm, maybe just your bad use of English then. But it certainly read as if you were calling us all cheaters as its more likely than these people were telling the truth than us admitting cheating. But i address you to my previous post in which i stated exactly what you are saying, Of course you can't vet every player for cheating, nor is there a method to actually find out, at least not by players. So you must take the word of people and their play style, and what happens in game. Trust is involved and sometimes that can be abused. But it is not correct to brand everyone with the same mistakes of a few.

Some people in AoD cheat, but not all players in AoD are cheaters, it is a simple statement, but true. As is some people in the Top 10 Kingdoms cheat, but not all Top 10 Kingdoms are cheaters. Do you see?

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And as finding out Kingdom X in top 10 cheats it would reflect badly upon the kingdom. Likewise when Kingdom Y AoD cheats it reflects badly upon AoD. Also, your people have claimed in quite a lot of posts that AoD doesnt cheat.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Its a losing battle Thunder, they will just claim you are wrong and they are right PERIOD:

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/facepalm

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Originally Posted by Thunder TA

Many years ago....
A few newer players dont seem to understand how alliances work in this game .

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I've given you all a chance to actually see what you're trying to comprehend, and my inbox is still empty. So all you haters can just enjoy speculating and accusing all you like, because it's pure BS lol. When you're ready to make an educated assessment on what we are about, PM me. Otherwise, you're basically typing to read your own thoughts.

-DM <3

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Originally Posted by Zombies are people too

/facepalm



I've given you all a chance to actually see what you're trying to comprehend, and my inbox is still empty. So all you haters can just enjoy speculating and accusing all you like, because it's pure BS lol. When you're ready to make an educated assessment on what we are about, PM me. Otherwise, you're basically typing to read your own thoughts.

-DM <3

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You obviously lack any real experince from being in alliance so why dont you just try and learn something from it. Plus even if there is a good side to AoD thats hardly the only side as we seen today since people been deleted and others come forth and told how they have been the victim of shady play by AoD tagged kingdoms. What do you think you would achieve showing that there is also a nice side today? (Which Thunder even havent denied nor anyone else)

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Originally Posted by Korp

You obviously lack any real experince from being in alliance so why dont you just try and learn something from it. Plus even if there is a good side to AoD thats hardly the only side as we seen today since people been deleted and others come forth and told how they have been the victim of shady play by AoD tagged kingdoms. What do you think you would achieve showing that there is also a nice side today? (Which Thunder even havent denied nor anyone else)

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more uneducated assessment, this time about me and not AoD. Basically typing to read your own thoughts still; my offer also still stands.

My whole objective has been to vindicate the majority of us from this mess xD I said it like hours ago? I swear this is so cyclical.

-DM <3

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Originally Posted by Zombies are people too

more uneducated assessment, this time about me and not AoD. Basically typing to read your own thoughts still; my offer also still stands.

-DM <3

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Yet another post not adressing the topic rather the person behind the post. But do please tell, what alliance previously have you had experince from? You so hell bent to try and ignore the questions you get asked so you just do about anything to avoid it.

This thread has almost doubled in the last few hours because of pointless bickering and name calling. Keep it on track or the thread will be closed.

I talk to Diamonds enough thru out the age when we get doubled or hit into one of our wars by AoD kds. Instead of inviting me to your chat. Ask him about the last 2 ages and what he does know about. He should have listened to me today tho about this thread. Maybe ask him about that also. Altho maybe he doesnt have control because to many of you are still talking about things he should be himself.
Only Diamonds and a couple of others know for sure what he did.Hes strangely the smart one and atleast doing part of my suggestion and being quiet sp this thread might die until the next time someone pulls another stunt and gets caught.

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Originally Posted by Sassy_Wolfie

This thread has almost doubled in the last few hours because of pointless bickering and name calling. Keep it on track or the thread will be closed.

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I seriously cannot wait; wish it would get deleted really. Goes from two KDs making a bad call to AoD witch hunt.

-DM <3

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Originally Posted by Rincewind

AoD is not an alliance that has any intent to cause harm, but instead better the game.

As mentioned, many Kingdoms are invited and many join and that means a lot of players and Kingdoms. With that, yes some of those may be bad players or do stupid things, but that should not reflect upon the whole Alliance. If it was a warring Alliance and the objective was to get war wins and shady things went on, then yes, you could probably tar the alliance with the same brush.

But as an Alliance that looks to promote game knowledge, and fair play, even if (and some of the things i have read here have no proof at all despite your accusations) some Kingdoms in AoD perform badly, the result is not for AoD to be disgraced as a whole, but instead to have the appropriate punishment dealt and then further promote the best things about the game and fair play within it.

All i can see from a lot of people bashing AoD is "Yeah things happened 10 years ago, or one province did so and so. So the whole Alliance must be sh*t and destroyed". If you ask me, it's stupid and childish. Mistakes can be made, but lessons can be learnt. If you don't accept that then so be it. But stop whinging bout stuff you make up.

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10 years ago aod was just a crap alliance very similar to what it is now. however aod does target share and does hit into other active hostle when one of their kd is going to war. it has happened several times last age to ghettos with no recourse. in fact afterwards these ghettos were approached by the same aod claiming if they joined their **** alliance they could protect them. problem is they can only protect them from themselves. as soon as the the people or kds in aod realize this the sooner it will disband and the better off everyone will be...

can't we just get rid of diamonds and bring back bart!!!!

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Originally Posted by Crunch

10 years ago aod was just a crap alliance very similar to what it is now. however aod does target share and does hit into other active hostle when one of their kd is going to war. it has happened several times last age to ghettos with no recourse. in fact afterwards these ghettos were approached by the same aod claiming if they joined their **** alliance they could protect them. problem is they can only protect them from themselves. as soon as the the people or kds in aod realize this the sooner it will disband and the better off everyone will be...

can't we just get rid of diamonds and bring back bart!!!!

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Since you mentioned Bart, he actually was man enough to take an invite to our Slack last age, and he and I had a few long conversations about his actions in game and in forum, the positive and negative impacts, the state of the game presently, our thoughts on different strategies and theorycraft, and he got to see first hand how the majority of our alliance interacts in game and otherwise. That offer stands for you too, and anyone else who wants to have an educated discussion, because yet again, this is all just a bunch of opinions without merit based on either ancient history or a few bad mistakes by a minority of our playerbase.

-DM <3

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Originally Posted by Zombies are people too

Since you mentioned Bart, he actually was man enough to take an invite to our Slack last age, and he and I had a few long conversations about his actions in game and in forum, the positive and negative impacts, the state of the game presently, our thoughts on different strategies and theorycraft, and he got to see first hand how the majority of our alliance interacts in game and otherwise. That offer stands for you too, and anyone else who wants to have an educated discussion, because yet again, this is all just a bunch of opinions without merit based on either ancient history or a few bad mistakes by a minority of our playerbase.

-DM <3

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thanks but i don't even want to be in my slack never mind anyone else's. would sign a petition to bring bart back he is much more positive for this game than negative.

No one has explained to me who these bullies are that caused the need for a alliance.....

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Originally Posted by Coldhearted

No one has explained to me who these bullies are that caused the need for a alliance.....

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Because there is no proof. You remember several times last age when numerous AoD kingdoms hit into our hostiles? Because I do... don't think it goes unnoticed...

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Originally Posted by Coldhearted

No one has explained to me who these bullies are that caused the need for a alliance.....

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there isn't any really it is all a charade a deceptive disguise to use your own people against the very same people you try to recruit to create the claimed unfair play or bulling to get more to join. it's a ruse...

Closing this thread because the content isn't changing and isn't being productive after warning