UF NEWS: Scripted Attacks lead to deletions

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10-11-2011, 15:57
marksss

cheaters never win, thank you bishop and company for keeping us safe!
10-11-2011, 16:00
Korp

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSX1300R

So, if I beat the crap out of you, DHaran, that would be evidence that you insulted me? Interesting theory.

I'm sorry. I promise to get out of your hair on this topic now.

So.. if you get convicted for a crime that doesnt make you guilty?
10-11-2011, 16:02
DHaran

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Originally Posted by GSX1300R

So, if I beat the crap out of you, DHaran, that would be evidence that you insulted me? Interesting theory.

I'm sorry. I promise to get out of your hair on this topic now.

No, because there doesn't have to be a relation between insults and violence. There does, however, have to be a relation between admin deletions and rule breaking.

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Originally Posted by Korp

So.. if you get convicted for a crime that doesnt make you guilty?

Not the best analogy considering wrongly imprisoned people over the years :P This situation is more like concrete DNA evidence tho.
10-11-2011, 16:48
Scavenger

delete
thing i wrote was prolly said before

lol much more than the 1 page i read
10-11-2011, 16:53
Syntico

Hide your pass, hide your users, Versace is gunna hack everything.
10-11-2011, 17:29
golfer44vip

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Originally Posted by DHaran

No, because there doesn't have to be a relation between insults and violence. There does, however, have to be a relation between admin deletions and rule breaking.

Fail. :headbang:
There is zero difference between the logic of both these examples. They're both cause --> effect logic scenarios.
Cause: You insult my mother. --> Effect: You get beat up.
Cause: You break a rule. --> Effect: You get deleted.

Both cases start with the assumption of the Effect. You cannot integrate the Effect to find a specific Cause without more information (in calculus, a constant term).

I was not trying to hate on Bishop or mad_scottish. I was simply expecting details regarding a very disturbing situation and I expressed that. When I specifically asked for proof or details, since the article lacked both, it's a game of cat and mouse. Why?

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Originally Posted by Bishop

I can confirm that these provinces were all deleted as a result of breaking the games rules and were most likely scripted. I can't believe I had to do that.

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Originally Posted by puppy101

It was later confirmed that these provinces were played by public proxies.

I don't know where puppy101 got his information but I need to visit that part of the community. It's clear from this article and spiteful moderator responses that they are unwilling to provide worthwhile information here.:salute:
10-11-2011, 17:31
Elit

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Originally Posted by Syntico

Hide your pass, hide your users, Versace is gunna hack everything.

Wonder what is ABS politic for hack account in your own kd? Maybe you deserve punish and GB now :P
10-11-2011, 17:38
DHaran

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Originally Posted by golfer44vip

Fail. :headbang:
There is zero difference between the logic of both these examples. They're both cause --> effect logic scenarios.
Cause: You insult my mother. --> Effect: You get beat up.
Cause: You break a rule. --> Effect: You get deleted.

Both cases start with the assumption of the Effect. You cannot integrate the Effect to find a specific Cause without more information (in calculus, a constant term).

I was not trying to hate on Bishop or mad_scottish. I was simply expecting details regarding a very disturbing situation and I expressed that. When I specifically asked for proof or details, since the article lacked both, it's a game of cat and mouse. Why?

I don't know where puppy101 got his information but I need to visit that part of the community. It's clear from this article and spiteful moderator responses that they are unwilling to provide worthwhile information here.:salute:

Wrong again. Sure those are causes and effects, but in this case there is only ONE cause for deletion, and that is breaking rules. It's a worthless analogy that doesn't apply at all.

Admin does not release detailed information regarding other people's deletions, never have and never will. It was clearly stated they were deleted for breaking the rules, and verified by admin, this is indisputable evidence as far as reporting is concerned. You are grasping at straws. If you have proof they weren't cheating and would like to call into questions Bishop's credibility, we'd love to see it. Otherwise you are making ridiculous statements.
10-11-2011, 18:25
tpyo

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Originally Posted by puppy101

It was later confirmed that these provinces were played by public proxies.

(I was being sarcastic)

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Options 2, 3 and 4 are not possibilities, as they wouldn't be breaking rules and then get deleted. I swear you people frighten me sometimes with your fail-logic.

oh true, didn't think of that

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Originally Posted by Palem

You forgot one.

5 - A magical wizard from Narnia stubbed his toe and in his pain accidentally shouted a spell which caused 50 accounts to be created, ran the same way, and bounce wave one unfortunate target.

We as the Utopia community need to travel to Narnia and make this wizard pay!

It's probably this one then
10-11-2011, 20:14
Landro

I'm surprised this didn't happen earlier. By creating banks, the top kingdoms are putting all their eggs in one basket.
10-11-2011, 22:50
macil22

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Originally Posted by octobrev

Ruler Name: The Wealthy Queen Cat

Oh gawd, I think I know who she is. I don't think she would cheat. I'd bet she was just looking at the top land targets to make hits. She hit 2 provinces right? The first was after the target province had armies out. The second was after the defense was beaten down on the target. If she was looking at targets and saw a big land fat province with no defense maybe it just looked ripe so she took advantage? I know it sounds like a stretch but if it is the person I'm thinking of then I don't think she would cheat.
11-11-2011, 00:34
War II

In this article: HeadBangers Ball is Sanctuary, Hide Everything is Sonata-trollfaggs, I guess it was their intra-kds deal... 8)
11-11-2011, 02:28
clarey

Someone saw that Realest was threatening Sanc in the forums and wanted to even up the playing field perhaps.
11-11-2011, 02:33
br3nt00

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Originally Posted by tpyo

Possibilities:
1 - 50 scripted provinces
2 - 1 guy talked to 50 provinces and said "yo what up let's all bounce this guy" and they said "yaa ok, I don't really have anything better to do with my army lololol"
3 - 1 guy talked to 100s of provinces and 50 of them said yes. Did you get a message from him? Or anyone else you know from utopia? I guess he probably didn't.
4 - 50 provinces randomly decided to bounce the guy, some of them were like "oh ****, my attack worked, so cool!"

wow how could anyone just assume it was 50 scripted provinces, didn't they think of the other 3 possibilities??? jeez, I guess this site is run by a bunch of scrubs, golfer you should apply for president of utopia

occum's razor brah
11-11-2011, 04:01
Rago

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Originally Posted by DHaran

How is there an argument here that admin deletions don't prove cheating? Am I being trolled?

Deletions only proves that an admin **THINKS** some kind of cheat happened - it does not prove the cheat REALLY happened.
It does not even prove that every admin agrees that a cheat happened.

That's the difference

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