It's more of a joint venture. But some Sinners are doing identical work!Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkz Azn
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It's more of a joint venture. But some Sinners are doing identical work!Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkz Azn
hmmmm, I don't recall signing any JV.... Do we at least have some recitals to review?
See this post, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
What about when the time runs out? Back to square one?
That's why DD was one of my favorite targets for what feels like decades.. no retals. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by elmoheadbutt
Clock never runs out. Age just resets.Quote:
Originally Posted by shawnplays
The prov leaving were not because of you. Two of them got deleted because of IP sharing because they're husband and wife. I would also like to remind you that the very nature of the game mechanics allow us to do such a thing. You can't take a retal of a retal and so chucked a ****.
If you don't want kingdoms to bottom feed, then why allow the game mechanics to do so? Am I not supposed to ask for help from another kingdom? Where is the mechanics preventing me from doing just that? What is preventing me from griefing random players into quitting utopia?
Once someone made a threat to razekill you unless you give them acres, what's preventing that player from killing you anyway? Giving him free acres only make him bigger, and in turn do more hits on you. This is why USA doesn't negotiate with terrorists, and this is why we razed you.
I must admit, it is very fun and rewarding and very easy to grief in this game. If such play is recommended here, then I shall follow suit.
By the way, those players that deleted have stopped playing utopia. If this is the outcome you desire, then please let me join in on the efforts.
You are so right on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Mechanics also allow for us to out gain your kingdom in a fight between a kingdom twice the size of ours while we have just 4 active attackers. So what's stopping us from doing so?Quote:
Originally Posted by elmoheadbutt
The idea is not just to play, but play smart. You played stupid and lost 7 players as a result. Gonna have a tough time convincing my your monarch abandoned for unrelated reasons, buddy.
Bottom feeding, top feeding, razing, it's all kosher. But this is a multi-player game. So when you bottom feed somebody who can and will retaliate, you made a bad decision. When you push them to raze into your wars, and they have literally nothing to do but that, you made a bad decision. There are ways to get out of it. You chose not to.
Same applies to DD. Sometimes you need to pick your battles so as to not lose out, either on resources or on goals.
Ok, that monarch was me. I am in fact a genuine female. My reasons for leaving didn't have much to do with this debacle, they were personal and my kd was aware of them at the time. And no, I'm not the pregant one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Nice summary of messages. You missed the part about my steward and his wife, playing genuinely separate games, being deleted by Bishop. I can't help wondering now if that had anything to do with this?
It wasn't because we couldn't take a retal, more because you couldn't take a prov from a larger kd hitting you without threatening WWIII and refusing to give up on that. I don't like bullies, I don't tolerate them and this was exactly what was going on. Given the size difference we could afford to wait it out though we'd have preferred that you hit the war button, and after reading this and seeing just how great you are in your own minds I don't understand why you didn't hit it. I also, on two occasions, offered formal CF which you laughed at.
Since I've abandoned, I don't have access to my messages, but yes, I certainly was sharing the diplo with my kd and decisions were joint ones. Reading through this thread I find it highly unlikely that I will ever play again, after 15 years, if this is the attitude of those who are supposedly trying to keep the game alive.
Again, I left for my own reasons, October is World Mental Health Month, please be respectful in your responses to this and to each other.
Your players were likely deleted for sharing a device, as i think that is usually the cause. Bishop has deleted people in his own KD on multiple occasions so I don't understand the ghetto culture obsession with accusing him of abuse and bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viviane
We don't have to accept a larger KD hitting us. And you don't have to accept our retals. But that is what lands kingdoms in situations such as this. Somebody always has to give up something eventually, though. Why would we accept a CF that doesn't benefit us? And why would we war you? If you read the thread you'd understand we are in no position to war. But I sincerely doubt you read it. Either that or you're incapable of comprehending that there are more ways to settle conflicts and disagreements then through war.
We have nothing to lose and thus no reason to accept unfavorable terms (such as a blank cf). If 'strippers' or DD feel the same way, then this simply drags out until one side or the other gives in. Simple.
And again you are giving the answers that suit you and yours, with no regard for the continuity of the game. I have no idea how it resolved for Strippers after I left, but it does seem that you are pushing players away and won 't stop until you have the "Top 10" kds left that want to play without regard to the history and culture of the game. You could set up another server for yourselves now, move over and leave everyone else to try to not only get new players in but keep them there.
What is the point of continuing the game as a stunted, pathetic safe space for people who can't play it properly?
This is all a part of the game. The community, the various cultures fostered within it, and the ability to do whatever you want so long as it is within the rules.
If interactions with other players are too much for you and your ilk, play solitaire.
Games dead, and this **** is the reason for it. I am just hanging out til it goes away now. I have given up trying to bring people in or supporting it with credits. Just want to watch it announce the last age after playing for almost 16 years. Once it ends I can bring the team into M****aQuote:
Originally Posted by Viviane
Well there is an answer full of hope and enthusiasm. The sad thing is that. In this entire thread you supposedly elite guys haven't once considered the other players points of view. You've just said "Well this is how we do it (and we have Bishop on our side) so that's how it's gonna work. Good luck to you guys.