Mercy vs Pulse round 2.

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02-11-2012, 20:41
DHaran

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Originally Posted by Lykron

yes but using this logic one can conclude that up to this point in age Pulse proved to be much better than all abs kd's.

I don't think they've proved that just quite yet, as there's one more war left to win and it's the only one that matters.
02-11-2012, 20:43
Palem

Actually, they've already proven they're better than Mercy.

It's mercy's burden to show otherwise.
02-11-2012, 20:51
DHaran

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Originally Posted by Palem

Actually, they've already proven they're better than Mercy.

It's mercy's burden to show otherwise.

Losing from a weaker position does not make a kingdom inferior. Getting farmed does though. We haven't lost a single acre to Pulse.
02-11-2012, 20:55
Bishop

I hear if mercy win the age dharan will retire.

Go Mercy!
02-11-2012, 20:59
lastunicorn

no chains in hostile.
02-11-2012, 21:12
DHaran

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Originally Posted by Bishop

I hear if mercy win the age dharan will retire.

Go Mercy!

You wound me.
02-11-2012, 21:25
KuhaN

Flogger has a good poker face. He is absolutely unreadable imo. Not talking about Utopia, but in emotions and stuff.

Like i never know if he's joking, mad, srs, trolling, or saD.

It bothers me.
02-11-2012, 22:23
Lestat

He's got your number G
03-11-2012, 00:29
lastunicorn

What is going on with your banner? I mean you have someone holding someone else on a leash, and little balls are on the floor, and then just to make it wider, you zoomed in on weird parts of the people.
03-11-2012, 01:12
flogger

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Losing from a weaker position does not make a kingdom inferior. Getting farmed does though. We haven't lost a single acre to Pulse.

You had 3 more troops per acre and stronger BE to start in our last fight, you weren't exactly in a weaker position last fight.
03-11-2012, 01:18
John Snowstorm

In DHaranworld, when you're significantly more pumped and your enemy isn't even in war build, you're in a weaker position.

sane, rational human being with clarity of thought and superb analysis imo.

lul.
03-11-2012, 01:24
Syntico

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Losing from a weaker position does not make a kingdom inferior. Getting farmed does though. We haven't lost a single acre to Pulse.

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Originally Posted by flogger

You had 3 more troops per acre and stronger BE to start in our last fight, you weren't exactly in a weaker position last fight.

You should really take that as a compliment Idol. He is saying that when you're Flogger, your opponent is always in a weaker position.
03-11-2012, 02:17
goodz

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Originally Posted by DHaran

The kingdom quality wasn't the discussion, though I would say we both had early wins (which only you got bonuses for) and a farm war late, all of which required pumping for, so let's not exaggerate the difference. goodz was trying to say we were sitting and dicing/pumping while you were warring, we're just pointing out that inaccuracy of that particular statement, as outlined in TheRock's posts.

You guys stated that this age all kingdoms were forced to dice and pump. I was pointing out that of the top five mercy probably diced the most

Everyone in the top warred some.
03-11-2012, 03:21
flogger

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Originally Posted by goodz

You guys stated that this age all kingdoms were forced to dice and pump. I was pointing out that of the top five mercy probably diced the most

Everyone in the top warred some.

And everyone who knows how much everyone diced has proved this notion false. Pulse has significantly more science than Mercy, because we pumped longer.
03-11-2012, 05:35
Palem

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Losing from a weaker position does not make a kingdom inferior. Getting farmed does though. We haven't lost a single acre to Pulse.

Do you actually believe the garbage that you type out here?
Are you gonna try to tell me that you actually won the war against GT58 next? lol
03-11-2012, 05:43
goodz

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Originally Posted by TheRock

Yeah, we didn't get the boosts of postwar and the war win. Other than that? 500 hits exchanged between two kingdoms over 5 days is really not that different.

is insolence a top kd ? :D
03-11-2012, 05:49
flogger

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Originally Posted by Palem

Do you actually believe the garbage that you type out here?
Are you gonna try to tell me that you actually won the war against GT58 next? lol

when you outplay someone as badly as they outplayed us you come out of it feeling good regardless of the war win, similar thing to when pulse and rage fought a few ages ago when I first did the homes build thing, we lost that war but it felt like a win. Mercy vs GT58 was similar to that.
03-11-2012, 06:31
Realest

so beautiful, like diamonds in the sky.
03-11-2012, 08:12
Lykron

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Originally Posted by flogger

when you outplay someone as badly as they outplayed us you come out of it feeling good regardless of the war win, similar thing to when pulse and rage fought a few ages ago when I first did the homes build thing, we lost that war but it felt like a win. Mercy vs GT58 was similar to that.

how did they outplay you when you won that war ?
03-11-2012, 08:20
Realest

This conflict is over before it starts. The only way Mercy can stop Pulse is to flood the server with DHaran's tears so nobody can login.
03-11-2012, 08:59
Alosan

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Originally Posted by Realest

This conflict is over before it starts. The only way Mercy can stop Pulse is to flood the server with DHaran's tears so nobody can login.

If there would be a post of the month award then this one would win it. lmfao!
03-11-2012, 10:49
Heady

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Originally Posted by lastunicorn

What is going on with your banner? I mean you have someone holding someone else on a leash, and little balls are on the floor, and then just to make it wider, you zoomed in on weird parts of the people.

I was thinking the same thing too, but then I decided to improve on it. I feel the new pulse banner is superior in every way to the Mercy one.
03-11-2012, 11:25
curdie

Awesome banner. It's the Mercy banner on LSD

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Originally Posted by Heady

I was thinking the same thing too, but then I decided to improve on it. I feel the new pulse banner is superior in every way to the Mercy one.
03-11-2012, 12:22
flogger

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Originally Posted by Lykron

how did they outplay you when you won that war ?

We should have won by 40k, not breaking even
03-11-2012, 13:23
DHaran

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Originally Posted by Palem

Do you actually believe the garbage that you type out here?
Are you gonna try to tell me that you actually won the war against GT58 next? lol

Are you suggesting the a kingdom who was of equal or better quality than their opponent has never lost a war? Sometimes I think you've gone mad, lol.

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Originally Posted by flogger

You had 3 more troops per acre and stronger BE to start in our last fight, you weren't exactly in a weaker position last fight.

On even acres that might be true, but I would always take a 10% acre lead into a fight and feel pretty good about it. The kingdom with the stronger top end typically wins.

War time, GLHF everyone.
03-11-2012, 16:02
Palem

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Are you suggesting the a kingdom who was of equal or better quality than their opponent has never lost a war? Sometimes I think you've gone mad, lol.

If you're a better quality kd why aren't you ahead of GT58? You and therock have defended pretty heavily that you've had pretty much the same age...
03-11-2012, 16:36
LightNing

since when are you such a flogger & co fanboy Palem?
03-11-2012, 16:59
Anri

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Originally Posted by LightNing

since when are you such a flogger & co fanboy Palem?

A better question why is suddenly NI, HaLL, KLA and various anti-abs people and others playing in abs KDs now?

I dont think you should judge Palem for taking a stance or voicing his oppinion. Imo Palem is unbiased in next to all conflicts.

At any given day i am cheering for Pulse over Absalom but its just the way it is.
I dont turn sides against my natural enemies.

Sry Lightning, dont want to be a douche since i have always liked you all the way since the NI era when we did colaborate with some ideas we had. But i really dont think you or anyone else should be judging people that has the right to think what they want and be a fan of Pulse if they want too. Some people stay on the right side of things. Not saying Palem is anti-abs but at least he is honest and says what he wants about who he wants to. Rather unbiased except for against Sanctuary imo.

With that said.

GO PULSE!!!
03-11-2012, 17:02
Anri

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Originally Posted by Realest

This conflict is over before it starts. The only way Mercy can stop Pulse is to flood the server with DHaran's tears so nobody can login.

First time Realest made me laugh.
I approve of this post.
03-11-2012, 17:17
Godly

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Originally Posted by DHaran

On even acres that might be true, but I would always take a 10% acre lead into a fight and feel pretty good about it. The kingdom with the stronger top end typically wins.

In what world do you live in that having more land, less military and no war buildings (GS, Rax) is the superior position? My jaw literally hit the floor when I read this nonsense.
03-11-2012, 17:18
munk

When does the real war start?
03-11-2012, 17:25
Syntico

War is already over. It is just a matter of x amount of acres now.

The only real question left is what will Abs do till EOA? Will they accept that they failed to stop the powerhouse that is Sword, or will some **** go down? We already know what last minute "heroics" people like Dorje, Webmaster, Hesus etc have done in the past when they have lost.. ;)
03-11-2012, 17:32
boz

sanc should fight rage
03-11-2012, 19:38
DHaran

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Originally Posted by Palem

If you're a better quality kd why aren't you ahead of GT58? You and therock have defended pretty heavily that you've had pretty much the same age...

Oh so now you're saying that the best kingdom on the server is always the one who finishes ahead? I guess HoH was the best kingdom on the server last age, silly me for not realizing that! Also, I didn't say we were better quality than Pulse, I asked if it was your ridiculous opinion that a stronger kingdom has never lost a war.

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Originally Posted by Godly

In what world do you live in that having more land, less military and no war buildings (GS, Rax) is the superior position? My jaw literally hit the floor when I read this nonsense.

With a stronger top end and a button, and let's not forget a bugged wave. But yea, let's pretend like you guys had it soooo rough, lol.
03-11-2012, 20:20
John Snowstorm

I've never seen a kd complain more about their position when compared to a kingdom not in war build and significantly less pumped.

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[22:31:09] <Shockwave> the only acres they gained were the war win bonus acres
[22:31:15] <Shockwave> and they were way bigger than us

luls. what were we, a whole 3% bigger in nw? :0

still complaining about a minor bug in a hostile wave that had little to no effect on our operational capacity?

why can't you just say it was a good, hard fought war and leave it at that without making disingenuous excuses. Mercy is best kd we have fought this age by a wide margin, you don't need to do this sh*t.
03-11-2012, 20:26
KuhaN

DHaran brought his secrets over from secrets to mercy and is in the denial phase atm.

It may take awhile to reach acceptance.
03-11-2012, 21:39
Syntico

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Originally Posted by John Snowstorm

why can't you just say it was a good, hard fought war and leave it at that without making disingenuous excuses. Mercy is best kd we have fought this age by a wide margin, you don't need to do this sh*t.

You don't hear winners make excuses.
03-11-2012, 22:36
DHaran

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Originally Posted by John Snowstorm

I've never seen a kd complain more about their position when compared to a kingdom not in war build and significantly less pumped.

luls. what were we, a whole 3% bigger in nw? :0

still complaining about a minor bug in a hostile wave that had little to no effect on our operational capacity?

why can't you just say it was a good, hard fought war and leave it at that without making disingenuous excuses. Mercy is best kd we have fought this age by a wide margin, you don't need to do this sh*t.

No one would ever turn down an advantage in size, particularly at the top of their kingdom; and you want to talk about me being disingenuous. And I fail to see how a bug saving you 50% acres on a good chunk of a wave is "minor", you're not that naive.

And I've said a dozen time Pulse and Mercy are the best kingdoms on the server, and I've not once claimed we were better. I am simply rebutting claims that losing a war proves I'm in a weaker kingdom, and as I explain my opinion on why we lost a war, I don't consider this to be giving excuses, simply my point of view on the outcome. If Mercy wins this war, I still wouldn't say we're a better kingdom, because it's been about as dead even a crown race as I've seen personally, so I wouldn't claim ultimate eipc pwnage dominance if we come out on top, that would just be stupid. I said a dozen times the war was well fought and very even but we couldn't come out with the win, which I congratulated you guys for. The unwarranted hostility is a bit baffling to me, but it doesn't bother me in the least so if you wish to continue, by all means feel free.
03-11-2012, 23:21
TheRock

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Originally Posted by LightNing

since when are you such a flogger & co fanboy Palem?

Palem hates Absalom, mostly because dorje called him out on a lie

Not really a big deal, I've never minded :)
03-11-2012, 23:22
TheRock

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Originally Posted by Godly

In what world do you live in that having more land, less military and no war buildings (GS, Rax) is the superior position? My jaw literally hit the floor when I read this nonsense.

Pretty sure he's referring to lower BPA, WPA and GCs. To wit - our Faeries couldn't op your Dwarfs.

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