Frauding people out of money is a bad idea guardian...
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Frauding people out of money is a bad idea guardian...
Heh sry Palem it was posted in tactics yesterday and i found it sooo damn funny :DDD
someone actualy took anris picture and made a profile on an a website. Its a little bit to much - not in the spirit of the game.
Anri, do you remember 2 ages ago Simians vs SWEA. This age going to be Same just AMA vs Simians. When you offer people real money (200 dollars for wave us+100 dollars per next wave) for GB us you cant expect any mercy. We will keep hit till get war or you get 25 in green.
Lol you are special elit.. You think that you can force us to war but it simply is not the case. . Good luck trying to kill us all through fort and gb protection ...btw how long do you figure that you have before the kds above you see you as free land?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
Not sure about the laws in Sweden but pull that move here in the USA and I'd have you in court paying me plenty of money for slander.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitram
"Any kd going for the top wants free acres, you wanted em from pyro, pyro wanted em from legacy, and now AMA wants them from you."
We are a warring kd.. We wanted war with Pyro and their target had no hostile with bullies in their kd name.
Worked before, so I dont see how it wouldnt work now as well :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck
Unlawful threats is against the laws, but that didnt stop Simians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck
Simians making up new rules again apparently, now its only hostile if kingdoms tags up. Here I thought it would be pretty standard to take a SN before waving someone. This is a interesting turn from "One kingdom is hostile as soon as they give the button to the other kingdom" (even if the other kingdom is in eowcf lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck
You wanted war with us, but pulled out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck
It's kinda funny that nobody but Simians is defending Simians, even Abscond switched from being neutral in a special way to supporting us :P
Palem: if a kickstarter that is obviously made in jest is against the spirit of the game (nobody in their right would take it serious OR donate money), I think Simians deserves a few deletions for offering money to other KDs to wave us, right? But then again, the mods won't consider any evidence that they can't find ingame, so it's a moot point.
Korp, we must admit Simians is one from most creative and inovation KDs around. I think its first time some one offer real money for get other KD gbed.
What piss me off is low price. WTF only 200 dollars for hit us? You guys drive lambo...make serious offer next time!
I haven't and won't say anything about the spirit of the rules and in-game actioning, but I'm not going to let links to fraudulent sites just sit around. I'm pretty sure that's part of my job description.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cello
Simians did a 2 vs 1 said they are sorry and made up for it with a deal.
Ama did nothing wrong because Simians did not hawe any "hostile protection" when AMA waved. No reason to give back acres here in my opinion.
And this is why we love u :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Palem
So now Legacy who "wanted peace" presses the button and sends another dragon at Pyro.
The plot thickens!
I'm not saying you did(as in you personally) but somebody you gave authority to did, according to the SN's posted earlier it was blatantly obvious that Pyro was engaged in an active hostile so there is no way your kingdom can claim "we didn't know" and hence you must have knowingly and intentionally hit into an active hostile, most likely looking for cheap free acres, you certainly didn't do it looking for a fair war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
And no I'm not saying AMA should get whatever acres they want or that they have any right to them. What I'm saying is that you had the same motivation for making the same move as they did, gaining free acres and getting ahead in the race, they stopped you and now you're angry because of that, not because of some other reason like "fairness" or whatever.
And to be honest they didn't step in and make it a 2v1 situation, you did that, they stepped in and made it a 2v2 situation even if none of the involved parties are affiliated with each other.
Your so called "fixing things" sounds like a second hand construction made after the fact just to appear nice, it wouldn't have happened if you hadn't gotten waved by AMA, you would just have kept going just like any other top kingdom in the same situation would have. Besides, since legacy apparently pushed the button the damage is already done, unless you're willing to compensate pyro for the acres you took, plus whatever legacy takes from them and whatever legacy gains from the ww. Because thats what would be fair in this situation, merely giving them back whatever you took is anything but fair.
To me it sounds like you're angry just because you're not the biggest bully and that somebody managed to bully you rather than you farming pyro for a whole lot of acres and a significant advantage in the race.
Your claim that you're just looking for a fair war smell of lies and deception when you wave into what is obviously an active hostile.
My opinion, to say it in Swedish is that: "ni ?r b?da lika goda k?lsupare"(translation: You're both assholes to the same degree).
Well if the community is up for gbing legacy for taking advantage of a 2v1, by all means go ahead, somehow I suspect that won't happen because the community is nothing but a bunch of hypocrites that will only act when they stand to gain by it. But maybe Pyro has allies that are willing to lend a helping hand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Procy
AMA looks like a bunch of opportunistic, dishonorable, bottom feeding bullies. Sad day when bullies use any retarded logic possible to defend their bullying ways, just admit you all are scared to have a fair war. Whoever ordered the wave on simians is a sad soul, those defending the wave are even more pathetic.
ps im not from simians
Are you insane?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elldallan
WTF are you talking about?
Dude when we waved we were 23k land ... simians were 23k land ... how is this bottom feeding and bullying?! Let me guess - 5 posts -> fake nick propably part of simians or may be even the grand monkey himself :D Do ur research before u start hating :DQuote:
Originally Posted by OrcPateNom
<~Elit> ok im go in bed, if simians declare war dont call me :P
<~Elit> just start chain
<~Elit> anri and calle first :P
Love is in the air
Hey Anri, I just realized something. If you tag no hostile, that means you're instantly no longer in hostile? That means other KDs can wave you right? I wonder who people would pick to wave, a Simians that's being hit by us and apparently isn't in hostile by their own definitions, or AMA, if they had the choice :P
Simians fanboy? Either way I can almost feel that pain u have in ur ass from ur comment ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by OrcPateNom
The answer to Cello's question is simple. A player that has any care for the game at all would wave AMA. No players care about the game anymore, so everyone would pick Simians.
So Ezzerland does not care for the game. Sad times ;(
Hostile is more or less defined differently case to case. Some would argue and say as long as it says hostile on KD page it is hostile. Well, that might be true, but it works at its best worse then current ingame mechanics of 150 points before war.
Id consider us to be hostile, for two or three waves from ama. But since we are not hitting back and send CF offers that is as far as hostile goes until its 100% one sided. The only thing that will happen is that some KD get way to unfair advantage in the top by doing so. First of all, ama goes unharmed for days and days and can freely hit and explore without nothing happens to them. Its hardly the way its meant to be. All because we cant really play this out any longer. There is no way with all damage that we took in the 2 vs 1 that we can possible war AMA and beat them. Even if we would war them and come out on same acres and giving them WW they would come again for round 2. Plus this would effect the top to much.
The KD of ama got LOTS of free hits on us during the 2 vs 1. We choose to give acres back to Pyro and apologize cause we did them wrong. We also offered them to assist them incase Legacy tries to play them dirty. (i heard they declared them now). We never had intention to have legacy ops or hit Pyro. We was under the impression they would CF each other. Pyromaniacs told us they were planning to war us, all up til Legacy hitted them back.
I dont think our tagg itself that reads "no war no host" makes us not hostile to AMA because we still are. But we sure as hell is not opping or hitting them so after some time it wont be hostile any longer at all, just one sided. If the server feels we harmed pyromaniacs and that the KD of AMA should gain everything they can from us for free then so be it. I cant for my life understand this reasoning. But it seems that 95% of the ones that post in here see AMA as the rightful owner of our acres and our acres should carry them to #1 if they got pool with it.
I care so much about Utopia that I was informed last night my forgetting to update my simulator on AR has caused someone to suffer, and I lol'd and did nothing! Of all the use that sim got previous ages I'm surprised I only got 1 person that cared enough to mention it to me... a week into the age, lol.
You knowingly and actively chose to benefit from Pyro getting ****played which I think is just as bad as if you had done the ****play yourself, you could probably have resolved the situation and gone your separate ways, instead you choose to benefit from the ****play because you sure werent willing to war pyro before it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitusAN
Hence I think you're just as bad as if you had done the ****play yourselves and thus worthy of some punishment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQQuote:
Originally Posted by Elldallan
AMA.. what a pathetic existence, way to bring the game down to the gutters, enjoy rolling in your filth.
Pyro just admit you were scared to war Simians
revenge is best served cold, and I hope Simians gets to serve it to you when you least expect it (AMA).
just dont do it OOP like Rusty, because BOB saw it coming from a mile away and they had nothing to lose.
Simians is just as pathetic and despiccable as AMA, they were the ones who started the whole 2v1 crap, Pyro had a legitimate hostile with somebody else, Simians intruded into that and caused a 2v1 situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrcPateNom
Shouldn't you be telling Simians to admit they're afraid of fighting AMA because they did exactly the same thing to Simians as Simians did to Pyro...
Wrong assumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elldallan
If you'd know that Legacy is a bunch of ghetto nubs ready to war EoA just not to give free acres when angry, you'd know it. And show me single KD that doesn't get angry when being farmed...maybe Simians? nah, they just pretend it...maybe AMA or even can name a ghetto warring KD willing to do so?
Pyro was out of war range for Legacy at start (and Simians saw that and thought Pyro would rather war em instead of farming if they wave), so yeah, how Legacy could have wanted to war when they can't declare, don't have war build and look fat. Still, Legacy had the balls and fought back, and the situation turned up even more interesting since a KD that is farming is legit to be farmed. That happened to Pyro and consequently to Simians. Whatsoever happens, AMA are the winners with farming without being farmed. They ended on top of all this situation.
As for Legacy vs Pyro, it ended up with both KD having same acre and NW, so it's a fair fight now. Legacy has reason to war and so does Pyro..and if someone can't handle a ghetto nubs willing to war EoA situation, they don't deserve to be where they were.
Also, interesting to see a similarity between how both Pyro and Simians react...
I disagree, a hostile is a hostile even if it's a farming, at least for some time and definitely as long as both sides are fighting back, if Legacy hadn't been attacking for 24 hours or so then the situation would have been another but legacy was fighting back so that makes it an active hostile regardless of the difference in nw(within reason) 30% difference is still in declare range and it's still a small enough difference that they could still cause significant trouble/harm to Pyro, hence it was an active hostile by any reasonable standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by ideaotic
On the other hand I'd argue that Simians wasn't in an active hostile at the time AMA hit them because starting a 2v1 and ****playing somebody else should not be seen as a legitimate conflict. So personally I think AMA had more reason to hit Simians than Simians had to hit Pyro, even if we don't include past wrongs/grudges in this. But they're both equally opportunistic and greedy.
And no legacy vs Pyro is not a fair fight since Pyro had losses from Simians and whatnot, legacy is despicable for actively taking opportunity of someone else getting ****played and I hope they get the same and someone massively hits them into their war or something.
this war is a bouncefest!
> The Wealthy Noble Lady sticky sticky of Holzleim (x:x) said: > > > > Glad to hear that. And glad to be doing business with you, please send over that CF asap (that would be now, really :)) to prevent anyone from cocking up. They do that sometimes, ignorant fools =P
I wish you, and all of your kingdom, a terrific holiday season.
> The Wise Queen Kwon Yuri of 02 something you already know (x:x) said: > > > >
Yr 3 48h notice is the best I can do, when the time comes we could re-negotiate if required. Notice not to be served into hostile,war or eowcf.
I will accept your offer of free hits until the 4th then.
> > > > > The Wealthy Noble Lady sticky sticky of Holzleim (x:x) said: > > > > > > > > > > > > I should have probably mentioned it, but the solution I proposed wasn't for bartering. It's generous enough not to warrant that either, but I can't fault you for trying.
How about, Year 5, 48h notice?
> The Wise Queen Kwon Yuri of 02 something you already know (x:x) said: > > > > > > > >
Nice to meet you too dear Mdm.
Oh dont get us wrong, we are looking for war. :) We are fat, but we'll take our chances. Probably wont slow you down all that much if you could fight against a fat KD and win.
Nevertheless, if you wouldnt oblige then what you suggested is cool as well. I prefer to take a certain number more hits than a date, what do you think? My KD is an inactive bunch and I cant get them within such short notice.
8 more hits from us and we CF. What do you think? And no more MS on my guys please. :)
8 hits will be about 600+ - 700 acres, considering the fact that a lot of your guys are now with GBP.
As for minimum duration, I can set it at Yr 3 Jan. Let me know.
> > > > > > > > > The Wealthy Noble Lady sticky sticky of Holzleim (x:x) said: > > > > > > > > > > Nice to meet you so close and personally.
Would have rather have a chat about more innocent things but I'm afraid we'll have to play the hostile game.
You don't really look like you are looking for a war, besides the fact that you're a little big for us. Don't get me wrong, chubbies are a good thing.
Anyway, I'd rather not have this turn into something where we waste each others' time. It slows you down, slows us down, all that no fun stuff. So let's not even go there, I'm willing to take a hit to our cap to do so. How about you hit till the 4th, send over a CF, we accept that without retalling. If you feel like it we can set an expiry date or something.
Hope to hear from ya
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So CF was meant to be send "Now" which was the 3rd of Jan, they didn't send it before start of 5th.. Which in my eyes is the first deal break. - So we OP'd them but with no hits..
then on 5th...
January 5 of YR1 RoCkY BalBoA Hostile (x:x) has proposed a formal ceasefire with our kingdom.
January 5 of YR1 Schmalturm has sent an aid shipment to Doktor Snuggles.
January 5 of YR1 The Rubber Duckies has sent an aid shipment to Doktor Snuggles.
January 5 of YR1 14 is gonna hit as (x:x) invaded Mauricio Rua (x:x) and captured 53 acres of land.
January 5 of YR1 Mauricio Rua (x:x) captured 113 acres of land from 14 is gonna hit as (x:x).
January 5 of YR1 Mauricio Rua (x:x) captured 120 acres of land from 22 you can take and (x:x).
January 5 of YR1 14 is gonna hit as (x:x) ambushed armies from Mauricio Rua (x:x) and took 56 acres of land.
January 6 of YR1 14 is gonna hit as (x:x) invaded Mauricio Rua (x:x) and captured 40 acres of land.
This was deal break 2..
MESSAGE:
Game Date January 6 of YR1
Real Date Mon, 23 Dec at 23:17 GMT+00:00
Sender The Wise Noble Lady Im Yoona of 03 The world aint (x:x)
Recipient King en dans tack the Warrior of tomten kom hit forst (x:x)
Subject accept cf and move on
Hi,
We have sent a CF. Accept it and we can move on based on the terms of the CF my monarch has mentioned to you.
The hit by #14 after the CF was sent was because he got BG+PF with troops home.
After that i told them NO, and i ordered my guys to hit behind meter... seeing as Pyro had knocked us out of war range by their initial wave.
Why we tagged NOT hostile was because Pyro tagged Hostile even though they had knocked us out of range... We kept on fighting and hitting behind meter from the start after the 5th, Simians messaged me on the 7th (guy called Chooey) asking me to CF and they would war pyro... I said no but we were still out of range by this time. - Simians wanted to war pyro and waved them in good faith for a war, Pyro made no attempt to stop hitting us (even with Simians inrange hitting them for a legit war) and instead demanding another 1k acres to give CF... I said no again.
I never asked anyone to join the fight nor did i wish for it, but seeing my KD name on IRC and in here being called dealbreakers by Pyro etc. is damn lame, when they not only broke it once... but twice.
Palem told you to edit and repot your message above @Angels.
But before you edit and repost, maybe you should state everything clearly and impartially. I could not quote your post because by the time i logged in, Palem already editted it.
You said something like free hits till the 4th
and you believe that with those wording, CF is meant to be offered end of 3rd.
I believe most people would interpret free hits till the 4th = free hits till the end of 4th. and CF will be offered after the 4th. We sent it 1min into the 5th.
Regarding your post about Pyro 'dealbreaking' first by sending in a hit on the 5th. Let me just post what I mentioned earlier in this thread
- Pyro waved Legacy
- Legacy Monarch PM Pyro Monarch that he's a bit tired of giving land to the others, but AGREED give Pyro FREE hits till the 4th. He DID NOT STATE not to hit their big provinces. He just stated free hits till the 4th. (If Legacy monarch requested for no hits on bigs, I believe we wont have mind). I dont see why you can bring up that point when talking about free hits. Pyros cannot read minds, we hope we can read minds though. So we can read flogger,elit,drix,tox,pendel,coss minds too!
- Legacy did MS+NS on Pyros provinces before the 4th. Pyros didnt really bother about it, we just didnt want to make noise.
- CF was offered 1 min into the 5th for legacy. Legacy monarch was online but didnt accept it for a whole 50mins
- 1 of Pyro's Orc A came online and saw he got PF+BG+Inteled with all the ops coming in on the 5th (it wasnt just 'spells' that was mentioned above). Proceeded to send troops out to Legacy Province B. This was towards the bottom range of Legacy
- During further talks, Legacy monarch said that he told the guy who pf+bg pyro orc to not hit him on irc. Since legacy monarch was on irc, why cant he have accepted cf?. There was a whole 50mins. between the cf offered at start of the 5th, and the hit that came in.
- Province B retalled Pyro Orc B and also hit another province. Pyro Orc B ambushed and hit back
-Net gains of this exchange on the 5th is +80 acres to Legacy
- Pyros approached legacy monarch on the start of 6th, stating that both side forget all the MS+NS and the nett acres on the 5th. let's CF it up. Legacy monarch took forever to reply. In the midst of the mails, Legacy went on to hit two more times, 1 hit coming from the monarch
- Pyro retract CF and started Drake
- Legacy waved Pyro and started drake.
After which, you clearly took advantage of a double hostile from Simians, and even acted gung-ho after that and tried to push your way around when you saw Simians keep hitting us. Saying that you will only consider a CF if you even up the meter with us. i.e, never giving the chance for pyro to think about warring simians because with all that you've done, who knows if you're gg to hit oow into us.
I do not deny that I actually went around asking kingdoms wheteher they could help Pyro. Because there was a point in time where Pyro was actually 100k nw down + still had a emerald drake (that was sent in hostile) to slay. And I felt that Pyro got **** played (99x by Simians, but apologies have been accepted.) to cause them to be in that spot. Most kingdoms said they understand our situation but because of their current plans, it's hard to assist. And I can understand when they say that.. And they even said that they have no qualms if other kingdoms hit into Legacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elldallan
Pyros was basically in a **** spot. Legacy had button, could still 15x with button control, had higher military, had a cow who was UB who could break the top faery in pyro without being broken back at 1 point, had strong core, and most importantly Pyro orcs were basically sitting at home waiting to be hit with troops home when button were to be pushed.
Several experienced uto players told us that it will be very difficult.
In the end, we decided nevermind... let's just take this battle ourselves and hopefully try to win without interference :)
War has been fun thus far, with Pyro being very very lucky and fortunate in causing several bounces on our provinces.
Good luck and have fun Legacy!
Rwarwarwar!
-cJ
By the way that Legacy monarch is my co-monarch..
Yes agreement was as stated that you would get free hits to the 4th but my co monarch clearly stated to send the CF now(3rd to accept when deal was) to avoid any issues... You never send it before the 5th. - So yes i ordered OPs on you(Pyro from my phone).
Yes i was late to accept the CF (15mins into the 5th your guy hit mine though), before i had the chance to get online and accept - second deal break from Pyro.
I told your co-monarch from the point of the hit in 5th we would drag it, at this point we never even knew Simians wanted you... Simians pm'd me on 7th asking to CF you, and i told them no. - You continued hitting us after simians waved you, even tho you could easily had gone for an equal war at the time and fair, instead you chose to continue the hits on us 91 vs 58 on meter at last count... and you did this while Simians hit you, and i protected my KD by hitting back, once you were inrange we started dragon and funded and send BECAUSE YOU KEPT HITTING... Nothing to do with Simians this, you wanted free acres and we didnt give it thats as simple as it gets and then you cried about it.
War is fun and if we lose we lose, eitherway we at least held our heads high and protected our KD. - Our luck was Simians bringing you back in range, but we never asked them to and Simians to my knowledge just wanted a legit war with yourselves, so dont cry we doubled you, when it was your KD that waved us, and before Simians came along i told your Co-monarch we would drag it after your guy hit on the 5th.
I also got the messages showing that. - So dont call that a lie either. - Once you were inrange and i started dragon, you came with an offer of CF again (after yet another wave where you had just taken another 1400acres), and i declined that unless we could bring it back to near equal meter, and you refused. (by this time Simians had just done their first wave on you), and instead of agreeing to that, you continued to hit us instead of taking the equal fight with Simians... So you were in the wrong and just kept hammering us, despite of everything. (and yes as soon as you got back inrange we wanted the war).
People that has warred us know we will war if inrange, as long as we are rdy. So we entered fortified and held the hostile, while changing builds so we could declare.
I appreciate you asking others not to interfere in our war, but it doesnt change the fact that our intention always was to fight when we had changed builds and gotten a little bit of off, and im damn sure 80% of the server would have done the same to protect their KD.
January 1 of YR1 An unknown province from RoCkY BalBoA (x:x) invaded Holzleim (x:x) and captured 111 acres of land.Quote:
- Pyro retract CF and started Drake
January 2 of YR1 09 it will beat you (x:x) invaded BOMBIBOM (x:x) and captured 121 acres of land.
January 2 of YR1 07 I dont care (x:x) invaded Uok (x:x) and captured 104 acres of land.
January 2 of YR1 RoCkY BalBoA (x:x) has begun a Sapphire Dragon project against us!
January 2 of YR1 10 to your knees (x:x) invaded The Rubber Duckies (x:x) and captured 120 acres of land.
January 2 of YR1 18 Its about how (x:x) invaded Mauricio Rua (x:x) and captured 113 acres of land.
January 2 of YR1 18 Its about how (x:x) invaded Mauricio Rua (x:x) and captured 46 acres of land.
January 2 of YR1 An unknown province from RoCkY BalBoA Hostile (x:x) invaded Doktor Snuggles (x:x) and captured 125 acres of land.
January 3 of YR1 05 Its a very mean (x:x) invaded n00b (x:x) and captured 154 acres of land.
January 4 of YR1 An unknown province from Military Dudes Looking for War (x:x) invaded mysql (x:x) and captured 39 acres of land.
January 4 of YR1 The Orcland Raiders (x:x) invaded and pillaged 25143 Itokawa (x:x).
January 5 of YR1 RoCkY BalBoA Hostile (x:x) has proposed a formal ceasefire with our kingdom.
You clearly started the dragon before..
January 7 of YR1 BOMBIBOM (x:x) captured 99 acres of land from 12 permanently if you let it (x:x).
January 7 of YR1 BOMBIBOM has sent an aid shipment to tomten kom hit forst.
January 7 of YR1 BOMBIBOM has sent an aid shipment to Schmalturm.
January 7 of YR1 An unknown province from Uns Pos End (x:x) captured 173 acres of land from 10 to your knees (x:x).
January 7 of YR1 RoCkY (x:x) has withdrawn their ceasefire proposal.
Yea my hit being the Unknown, after i had already stated in a message we would drag it - As you can see my hit didnt come before the 7th of Jan, before Simians waved you.. (I had already ordered a wave back to just below meter).
And i was on IRC as i keep being disconnected and losing connection, that is not my fault, and yes i said no hitting, i did not stop them OPing though as you hadnt sent the CF (straight away as my co-monarch asked on the 3rd) and yet when i came on to see again, you had hit.. so ordered my guy to hit back, and set orders for hitting behind meter.
Yes we were willing to fight, pretty much from the start, but especially after the "deal failed" still before Simians came along, only problem was Pyro had knocked us out of range to declare by their first wave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elldallan View Post
You knowingly and actively chose to benefit from Pyro getting ****played which I think is just as bad as if you had done the ****play yourself, you could probably have resolved the situation and gone your separate ways, instead you choose to benefit from the ****play because you sure werent willing to war pyro before it happened.
Hence I think you're just as bad as if you had done the ****play yourselves and thus worthy of some punishment.
So stop trying to act like you know what we were thinking.
Legacy get hit, legacy retal. They've done nothing wrong but defend themselves. Another kd jumping in has nothing to do with them and so they should play button games and prepare as they did. I would do the same.
Legacy telling Simians straight up they're not going to CF. Simians interprets it as they're going to CF, let's wave Pyro! Good job, Anri :P
Its amazing that randoms people come here to whine about AMA, are you all from simians? What was it that AMA did wrong here...wave a kingdom that is NOT hostile. Refuse to CF Simians on terms thata benefit Simians but not AMA?
Again the way that conflicts have ALWAyS been resolved in the top has been through war or a cf that has been agreed upon by both parties. Leave it to simians to try and reinvent the wheel alla retard, this is the same type of logical thinking that dictates that 3 way notice to abs is a "smart" idea. Getting farmed out due to your own dumb moves and then whine to server about it and begging them to "police" it is a classic example of mental retardation. Whoever thought up that plan should stick a finger up his ass and give it a good sniff because he clearly is bat**** crazy.