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Elit why do you keep stating that our conflict was my choice alone. That's a very narrow view, as I pointed out before. You're the one who forced the conflict, not me. You wanted acres no matter what, that's the bottom line. And you always have a conspiracy theory where everyone is against you. It was your choice to go to hostile too, and now we have both suffered from it. This is the risk you took. Stop trying to blame everyone else for it.
No point being defensive. Suffice to say, Elit does understand and he has his kingdoms benefit in mind. He may have grudges that derail the overall good, but he does it with narrow view integrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetley
Diplomacy from a point of weakness requires compassion from the stronger party. There's none of that here. That's why I encouraged you to wreck the AMA core. Again, it's not about hate it's about position. You were going to lose your cow effectiveness so your alternative was to crush what was feasible.
Cant say it better. You explained it all !Quote:
Originally Posted by StratOcastle
Less QQ more Pew Pew.
It's going to war so deal with it.
Stop the whining and accept you'll probably lose. All this sooking is ridiculous.
I assume that when PewPew beats AMA, AMA is not going to do a max gain wave before withdrawl right?
Because it is totally unfair for a kingdom to do that, and if they did, PewPew would be justified in hostiling AMA until they were half their size, right?
You don't think they will anyway? If Pew are willing to dealbreak to have their conflict then the grudge has to be pretty bad so Pew will probably go for round 2, 3 and 4, regardless of whether AMA makes a max gain wave before wd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
Because, that's what pewpew did earlier this age when they beat ama. Oh wait, instead of being greedy assholes like elit, they gave him a free CF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elldallan
This is the most off topic thread I have ever seen. OP was will BB vs AMA ever happen?
Palem shake these fools off please.
Well done
Your interpretation of the game is unconventional, i know this first hand from when we asked you for free acres and you said youd farm out to enemies or allies ( which would have been prevented ) you cant play people off eachother by threatening to deliberately farm out and influence the charts, the other people who play fairly for crown wont allow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Persain
By your logic any time you are in a hard fight you can unilaterally decide hostile is over and run away into an arranged fight and end it. It doesnt work like that, every time it's been tried the kd running got owned.
1) you tried to run from pewpew by land dropping and going into arranged war and they hit you into war.
2) simians was cow hit by sanc and sanc was starting to wave simians and simians went and gave hoh button AFTER sanc hit them and got full waved into war.
3) evil dragons dogged ama nonstop for 4 weeks running into b2b arranged wars with pewpew where both kds would gain land (one would gain land in war while other kd got land from ww bonus), ed tried this vs fratzia and got raped into war.
Clearly people who think arranged war and running is acceptable are morons and have been owned in the past for it.
What did ama do the 500 times they beat pewpew in the past? Give them cf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
Why can jerks force war on a ghetto literally out of nw range after 2 week retal war and crown from it (which you applaud them for) but why cant ama force war on jerks who was IN DRAGON AND DECLARE RANGE?Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
You really need to relax after Korp owned you when he said you dont know what you are talking about, arent you ashamed of having sat on forums for so long and still not understand how the game works?
#proteuspaykuhan
Being right trumps any trolls, including yourself. I was right. Go be a washed up has-been elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Also, Jerks finished #1 because the kd they "forced" to war them surrendered. If there had been bad blood, there wouldn't have been a surrender. If you think that war was "forced" like this one was, you've completely lost your mind.
Its not the same situation lol. Get your facts together mister i dont play the game no more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
no war was forced on infections from jerks. Hostilities escaladed and they decided to go for max points against jerks giving them a war. NOTHING close to the situation right now. Ur funny
She say she won't, I bet she will. Timber!!!
Proteus, if I might comment on our war with infection 3 ages ago: it simply started with some bottom feeding that they didn't take kindly to. They continued to retal at the same rate throughout the conflict until it went to war. They made the conscious decision to go to war with us, they never asked for CF. In fact, conversely, WE asked for CF many times, and they refused because they were taking a stand against bullying. I believe it was their purpose to trap us in war/hostile until EOA and not withdraw. I can't say what made them decide to withdraw at the last moment...
Anyways I think to compare that situation to us vs AMA round 2 is a bit off the mark :P
You know that even if it were true there's no one that's not a kingdommate that's ever going to believe that, right? IIRC, I think I said something like #ggjerks something like a day or two before age end in our groupchan, it was fairly obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetley
"We're so mad we're going to get back at you by farming lots of acres and withdrawing at the end to help" Doesn't make any sense. It is possible that many people in the kingdom had no idea, but someone in the council chan knew what was up.
I mean I can obviously see your perspective. But based on the logs and PMs etc we all had with infection, they were legitimately mad and set in their decision to not WD, or they were exceptional fakers. It's not like we didn't ask them to WD, we certainly did, but their response was "f**k off" in some form or another every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
I truly believe that it was not set up from the beginning but I guess I don't know. The only explanation I have for their last minute change of heart is that perhaps they decided, seeing the state of things 3-4 hours before age end, that they wanted us to win more than AMA.
Anyways on that whole issue I've spoken to you guys a great deal about it. I just wanted to point out to proteus that we didn't force a war on anyone in that case, we in fact asked them for a CF.
weren't we #1 3-4 hours before age end? (AMA had us beat with WS and some CR acres, IIRC)
You remember it wrong. Explain from them in chat with me was: BB used his multies for raze AMA and we hate BB and flogger and its why we will WD to jerks.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetley
I asked flogger if he have any idea who is this kd and he didn't so he cant have grudge with them. Same for us. BUT during age pendel told me several times he have friends ready to farm to him and he win age. I think its what happen.
i dont troll, unlike you i actually understand the game inside and out and know what I'm talking about. you on the other hand understand nothing but make stupid posts, so you are the one who is in fact trolling. the only thing you are right about is the time you told me you are bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
you realize no one believes this right. people even quit jerks after you guys received that farm war. jerks was by far the weakest kd that age and had 0 chance to crown fairly, you even lost a fight to ED. if you didn't have bb and ama protecting you all age, you'd have been eaten week 2-3. if you dint have relations with ama/bb, we would have eaten you ourselves, its not hard to take your acres.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetley
Maybe they hated you so much they wanted this backlash against you for the following ages. If they had the foresight to plan that out then I give them hella props for leet trolling. You picked land though so you're at fault, but a stolen crown is still a crown and I give it my seal of approval.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetley
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If there's a made up story and a made up forum thread, its made up ;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Elit
Proteus, regardless of what you think about that war, it still wasn't a war we forced on infection. Which means you can't compare it to AMA coming for b2b with us :P
Honestly I had hoped our and AMA's war this age would help with the bitterness from the past and we could move on, especially since Jerks has a different leader now. But it seems it has just made it worse.
Thu Aug 14 05:36:02 2014
[06:19] <tetley> i dont think b2b serves either of us
[06:19] <tetley> i think it just makes enemies
[06:19] <tetley> and creates hostility
[06:19] <tetley> and creates grudges
[06:19] <tetley> and in this dying game, that stuff sucks
[06:19] <tetley> just makes it worse for everyone
...
[06:40] <tetley> i rather make a friend
:-(
It does indeed look suspisious: kd is piss about getting farmed by big jerks. they retall and while at it go to war with way bigger kd and give ww before eoa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
sorry for all you big guys for breaking all your theories. here is the story: infection wasnt friend with jerks. didnt even know them. They werent that piss about getting farmed, they just didnt really had a purpose as the honor crown was taken away by pew2 (age they dropped + learned) and they didnt accept the bullying.
Infection had the choice to do whatever they wanted with jerks, goal was to go to war until eoa and bring their chances to crown to absolute 0 (their chances werent that high lets not kid ourself lol) . Then, few hours before eoa, seeing that Infection (a small random kd) actually had in their hands the choice to decide the crown got overwelm by that new power in their possession and reversed the situation to cause that random crown.
ofc jerks begged infection all war to give the ww so they would crown. Infection didnt do it for that reason (see above).
Infection infected the age muahahah
tetley , way your kd interact to us this age, las age don't really help for get better relations. Every time you are doing all you can for hurt us. You had good chance for close it and move on if you have accept my offer for 5k land and eoa CF after you made another greedy mistake to not WD min time and max gains all our big for make sure our profit from war is minimal.
So you got pissed on pew pew chart shape and you did same :PQuote:
Originally Posted by RawStuff
Still its pure Jerks and personally pendel/wartague fault. I talked with both about change WW bonus for keep it fair to ama/bb and they become mad on me and told how im not respect Jerks and they are not less good from AMA/BB and deserve not less from us to win age :)
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Originally Posted by Band of Horses
Not off topic at all actually....
BB=Big Bullies, srsly :p
Palem: Elit is an idiot. X was a bad move because Y is going to happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Proteus: Wow Palem, you're such a noob. Learn2play.
*Y happens*
Palem: See?
Proteus: Wow Palem, you're such a noob. Learn2play
Yea, I'm totally the troll in this scenario.
can someone change the thread topic?
There ya go dollfaceQuote:
Originally Posted by TheOne
If you going to change, make it proper. AMA explode serverQuote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Elit and Tetley go make up ffs! diplomacy isnt that hard...
Get your facts straight. AMA provided Pew with free CFs after their 2-3 wars. Might want to think before typing too, calling ppl assholes is lamesauce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
Yes you were, but AMA LLed a fairly large amount off of CR during the last ticks. So either way you would not have been #1. One can argue who deserved it more or who had the strongest KD, i think we all know the answer to that one :)Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
Based to your last few days post im really tempted to call you with names but im still limit it to "n00b" and im apologize to all n00s for put them in same category with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Jerks got legit crown, even if it hurts. Weren't they avian that age? Well then that core is going to reap acres faster in any sprint. I just tested this.
The 2 killers were avian, merchants. Core were dwarf, clericsQuote:
Originally Posted by StratOcastle
EDIT: the 2 killers actually turned into cows quite fast, as the intended cows (human, mystics) got trashed early on, and the avians sucked up acres like pros. Kinda a weird setup but it worked out
Incorrect:Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Palem: <begins to analyze actions of top kingdoms with a know-it-all matter-of-fact attitude but to onlookers its obvious he has no idea what I am talking about>
Proteus: You are bad, stop analyzing the game.
Palem: <continues his wrong analysis, contributing even further to other's perception of him being self-righteous terribad player>