Sparta hitting on CD

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Originally Posted by Bananamancer2000

We've FBed 10s of thousands of peasants? My goodness. We're currently down over 15k acres to x:x(Sparta) including more than 500 razes.

So 1acre for 1 peasant?

It's been days since our last op, barely a hit back, yet hundreds of razes keep coming.

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Growing into t10 with the attitude "we dont give acres for cf" has been tried many times before and failed.

You should have accepted the LD and moved on. Its not a god given right to be left alone.

If Panthira & Shai decide to walk the walk and retal + op Sparta, then they seal their own faith. This is clearly still a active hostile as no CF has been made. You cannot back down when it stops being fun and FSU like.

PS: i have nothing against Shai or Panthira fwiw - i just dont think Bart is in the wrong here

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Originally Posted by Panthira

Yep, I hold a 17 day IRL time meter on you d*cks.

This is not FREE CF at 15kac and 500+ razes, plus dead provinces. You tax some and not others, Bart. You tax my kingdom knowing full well we don't do land tax, knowing our response, and you act like you are doing us some grand favor. No means No. 17 IRL days with that meter. We are an angry kingdom now.

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Your kd only has you to blame for this mess. Sorry but there it is

Say what you will. Go pay your virtual land tax, and call it "the right thing to do" if you wish.

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Originally Posted by Panthira

Say what you will. Go pay your virtual land tax, and call it "the right thing to do" if you wish.

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Then stop whining?

Thank you. I have been accused of being stubborn and hardheaded before when dealing with the elite kingdoms in this game, in fact i have lost quite a few players due to my "stand up to the bullies' and "fight to the death" mentality. But 17 RL days? At the beginning of the age? Even I have never been that stubborn.

Looking from the outside in, i see it like this. You are hoping to exact your revenge on Spartans, which is why you are holding onto that button. This is why Spartans is still hitting you and killing off your provinces thus making you less of a threat to them. Really the only thing you have accomplished is ruining the age for the rest of your kingdom. I have done that a few times myself so I recognize stupidity when i see it.

Shai i believe you are misunderstanding.

Its legit hostile Sparta vs CD, however when CD decide to keep meter high + random out, CD cannot complain that hits are coming in from the outside, that doesn't make the hostile any less legit/active, it just means now CD has to deal with hits from the outside because they put themselves in a position where they themselves don't respect that they are hostile.

If Sparta starts randoming out, then yes Sparta is a legit target too for randoms in, but as far as i know Sparta are not randoming elsewhere.

CD can keep their hostile tag but then they should honour it themselves and not hit out..

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Originally Posted by Panthira

Yep, I hold a 17 day IRL time meter on you d*cks.

This is not FREE CF at 15kac and 500+ razes, plus dead provinces. You tax some and not others, Bart. You tax my kingdom knowing full well we don't do land tax, knowing our response, and you act like you are doing us some grand favor. No means No. 17 IRL days with that meter. We are an angry kingdom now.

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When someone asks for tax you either comply to their demands for a CF or you fight them. It's really basic at its core.

Here's a snipet of your stance of diploing it out that I had received He can choke on a huge rod, enjoy your crumbling utopia, game is dead from sh**s like you. gg let's not pollute the forum further with those - you get the idea.

Now that you've had your "fun" it's suddenly all on Sparta for standing up for itself and not condoning abuse by a hack monarch.

Seriously thats why we don't "Ask for tax/war..." we wave and take it, then we CF or we fight, none should just expect to get land without fighting for it, but to demand more just cause you got to "train up" is a ****ty excuse to turn bullies just because you got the size.

Most KDs are fair, you get waved you offer CF and say not interested or not in position to war atm, and KDs move on to next target or arrange a war in a few days that is "roughly" fair for both, so both KDs can have fun.

Why does anyone have to ask for free acres, while being on low draft, if everyone responded to these taxes with no, then the taxing would stop, the problem is the ones asking believe its some grand disaster having to train up so they bully if forced, even though most KDs will accept being waved and CF so both move on to next.

Just stop with the taxing and don't be douchbags when you got to train up waving/sitting on 1 KD for days on end.

We could have just waved for 10% land without asking?

Bart doesn't understand diplomacy. He understands how to bully.

He demonstrated today the same skills that Abi has tried to work us over with. Thinking he can ask a CF for free then painting it as a favor to us.

Like he's painting this assault on CD as a favor.

I think Bart should move on and accept he has 17 days of ops incoming. I'm not sure how he intends to remedy that? I can police Panthira into a CF, but it will cost you 10k acres to CD Bart.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

We could have just waved for 10% land without asking?

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You mean like how the game used to be before everyone got butthurt about everything?

Wouldn't know; I joined age 64 into some ghetto, been playing in ghettoes ever since.

Update: CD is in war with Draft Punks now. I don't even know anymore. Haha.

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Panthira and Bart are welcome to debate it out on #triggered

Just sayin

I would take on a debate. We are at war, correct.

We have declared WAR on Draft Punks!

You have our terms, Bart. Every day those go up. You have 30 minutes to decide, which is longer than you gave us for your "Free CF".

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Originally Posted by DM_Benjamin

Panthira and Bart are welcome to debate it out on #triggered

Just sayin

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I want to hear Bart's sexy voice; and well, Panthira can come too I guess.

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Originally Posted by DM_Benjamin

Panthira and Bart are welcome to debate it out on #triggered

Just sayin

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Nothing much to debate.

Now we're gonna enjoy greening their provs into war :)

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Originally Posted by Panthira

I would take on a debate. We are at war, correct.

We have declared WAR on Draft Punks!

You have our terms, Bart. Every day those go up. You have 30 minutes to decide, which is longer than you gave us for your "Free CF".

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You are embaressing yourself.

Razekilling a prov after 9 days hitting a kingdom less than 30% your kd size while we are at war. Keep that meter going, Bart.

Shame on your kingdom.

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We offered your initial wave as take it and CF. you waved into full fort, on a KD only half of you were in range for! Then asked for %s of land! You dense Spartans. If you waved us outside of fort, managed to get your 10% in that first wave, we'd have CFed right there, your Dbag Bart could not wait, waved into full fort the first tick we were out of war, got like 4% because he runs humans, low milltary, then effectively asked for 3-4 more waves. Next time don't be suprised when you take the slowest, most damaging route to take land that the KD gets pissed. Then to start 100s of razes because there is no more land to take? F you, this was and continues to be personal grudges BS Bart is trying to spin as bad Diplo.

Hell, you could have said, for every mean mail we want a hot and probably gotten it, but what do you expect when after 4 days razes start and you demand us to explore 25% of our current land as payment? Screw yourselves.

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Originally Posted by Panthira

Razekilling a prov after 9 days hitting a kingdom less than 30% your kd size while we are at war. Keep that meter going, Bart.

Shame on your kingdom.

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Why didn't you just CF long ago and carry on with your age? Seems kind of selfish to drag an entire kingdom of players down because you are trying to prove a point.

It's about Barts ego, just join my club of hating Spartans. Just sad about invites, kingdoms like Spartans would never have existed back in the day. They would be razed killed and spread out. The good old days.

The mean messages I had received are from the 1st day of conflict, it was not four days in. You had made a bluff, got called on it and now you have to deal with Bart who isn't exactly known for letting up.

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Why didn't you just CF long ago and carry on with your age? Seems kind of selfish to drag an entire kingdom of players down because you are trying to prove a point.

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2 days ago he wanted 45%

Why would you declare war on a KD without clearing relations with Sparta first Panthira? You just walked into that 1 for sure, Bart can green you into war and make sure you lose easy, you try dodge while not sorting the CF is a bad mistake...

Not sure who advised you to go to war on a 3rd party KD thinking it would mean Sparta can't hit in, and then you come here giving him demands/threats... You learned nothing from dealing with this kind, for the last few ages?

I don't like to see bullying, but this just seems like someone is advising you to make bad judgement calls. :/

My kingdom needs something to do, other than getting beat on by Sparta. It's lame as sh*t what they are doing. Plus inviting others to hit, calling me a multi, making preposterous demands of a kingdom that got into the top ten only by WW, and isn't competing for rank. I love how the Utopian community blames me for this. Bart has you all eating right out of his hands. Yummy? Bart treats for his pets.
Aranfein, my turn to warn you. Don't get too cozy with him. We care for Fluffy, and feel a lot of remorse for hurting your kd 2 ages ago, but you never saw that on WA, as it shows messages unread. I do not feel bad for Zulu though. ;)
We're buds now anyway. Huh, Zulu? (bait)

spartan of megatron (Bartans) invaded The Queen is Here (CivilD) and captured 42 acres of land

What if I told you they do this forum toxicity BS back and forth while secretly plotting ways to farm out and give land/ww/honour? Bart will plot to destroy ppl's ages, cuz thats what gets him off.

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Originally Posted by Osaze

What if I told you they do this forum toxicity BS back and forth while secretly plotting ways to farm out and give land/ww/honour? Bart will plot to destroy ppl's ages, cuz thats what gets him off.

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Oh Osaze. I can see the conspiracy and see why you might think this, but I assure you, there are easier and better ways to farm out. I promise you, that isn't the case here at ALL. We are honestly fighting Sparta's tyranny, as a small, half-ghetto kingdom. I know it's a bit different, but I won't waver. I won't pay him land tax, and he is truly beating on us with ill-intentions. I am told he wants to disband CD, which is mainly why he does this. If I left the kingdom, I think he would stop, so I believe it's me he is after, personally. My kid is in my kingdom. I would not teach him to foul play. But I appreciate your thoughts on the matter (really), because those questions should be asked.

from the fact that this made 16 pages, I am thinking this thread may have some potential,

I therefore beg indulgence so that I can properly troll here too.

1) WTF is CD?
2) WTF is Panthera?
3) WTF does Bart care?
4) WTF does Spartans care?
5) WTF am I asking questions?
6) WTF do I care?

oh that was good to get that out of my system. PHEW!

whats going on again?

I can understand your kingdom needs something else to do, but past issues like this where a KD has joined a war with a 3rd party while being green'd into war, usually have a strong demotivating effect on said kingdom.

Not many strong leaders around anymore, and i don't necessarily mean in growth/skill as such, but someone that can hold a KD together in rough times. I see Bart offered a CF after all this, and while I'm sure you want revenge etc. it would likely be for the good of CD to accept the "forced CF" so you can war in peace and get past this, especially to have fun as a KD with a proper war.

The top10 has literally always been big KDs eat small KDs, usually to be left alone you got to secure those CFs, and while a couple are always nice to provide such thing giving that you don't interfere with theirs/dont compete for top spot, you'll have a few that knows they can't get to no.1 so will be harder to secure CFs against as that will be their way to secure a top ranking without having to fight the few "super KDs" (yes i call them super KDs because they got the game knowledge and organisation across nearly all 25 players to essentially have 25 strong monarchs if they just had the time/will to do so). Its these few KDs that are happy with a top5 placing that you will find will be the hardest to negotiate/obtain free CFs from, at least from my own personal experience.

Also i don't think anyone eats out of Barts hand, he just like to have his hands in all, likely a bit of OCD there to try and control as many elements he can, given the time/effort i believe most monarchs prefer to be able to control as much as they can to avoid any surprise in a game like this.

1) WTF is Sheister? :P

Angel....

WTF do you care?

Haha, im bored Master Sheister so thought i would offer some forum troll advice.

Let me make a summary:

In age 66, I was invited by Return to Power (RTP) to join his kd in Utopia. I refused. Age 67 found him asking yet again, and I couldn't deny him since he'd never asked in all the years since I stopped playing. I joined. I found I had an acre cap, and a "fear" that we'd get eatn by top kingdoms if I grew. I grew anyway, which didn't make people happy, but whatever. Attacks and gains happen. RTP eventually got fed up with Monarchy and quit, leaving someone (me) holding the bag. So end of age 67 found me with Monarchy and little new experience with the newer game mechanics. Age 68, I took my kingdom to the top 10, which Bart somehow takes credit for for LDing us 15k acres (that he sees as 50k). So because he did that, he thinks we now owe him free land, or something. Age 69, I went under the guise of a male king and waved Sanctus for war, as they were our only good option at the time (after a WW placed us in top 10 with 20 players). He refused to war, despite being the same size and pump, so after a 700 acre wave and many tries to war him on my part, we CFed and moved on. I eventually told Bart my true ID. MISTAKE!

A week or so later, he waved CD with sanctus and Sparta. 2 kingdoms. I refused to give CF, because 2 kds is BS, and with all of his fuss about King Ace waving him (for 700 acres!) we held out, until he agreed to CF under my terms. (Such as tagging Don't FCuk with Panthira, which Bishop changed to Don't Snuggle with Panthira - I like snuggles though, Bishop). He's held that against me since and stopped talking to me after.

Hence why he now has it out for me, personally. CD is a half ghetto kingdom, 3 ages old. It's no wonder you haven't heard of it!

If I discover Panthira and Bart are conspiring to farm out a crown I will spend next age making them both quit.

But Abi needs some quality Steel time so I apologize to whomever may be the victim of this potential chart manipulation.

Pan wants so badly to be a martyr she builds the pyre herself and sends her child in. I'm flabbergasted.

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

Pan wants so badly to be a martyr she builds the pyre herself and sends her child in. I'm flabbergasted.

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It's funny how little I care about what you think on the matter. No Martyr. A fighter. Learn the difference and you will have grown into a man.

BoH what if she's Stormborn?... immune to the biting flames, might pop a dragon or 2 :D

ps. BoH talks like Octo now, I'm sure its him :(

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Originally Posted by Panthira

It's funny how little I care about what you think on the matter. No Martyr. A fighter. Learn the difference and you will have grown into a man.

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A fighter doesn't run. A fighter fights. A fighter doesn't cry in the forums. A fighter fights. You ma'am are not a fighter because a fighter fights.

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

BoH what if she's Stormborn?... immune to the biting flames, might pop a dragon or 2 :D

ps. BoH talks like Octo now, I'm sure its him :(

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Danny was only immune to the fire in S1 because of the witch's blood magic. The show has taken liberties to make the story easier to tell but even GRRM has came out and squashed this. You've turned me into one of those people and I hate you for it!