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02-12-2014, 13:40
Bukharistan

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However, don't throw your temper tantrum and attempt to hold the game hostage because you didn't get what you wanted and say it's because you care and want to improve the game.

I have no temper tantrum. Me and Squee have a good understanding, no worries. It's a way to get what I want, which is a change of the rules. I wish to improve the game, but sometimes in order for things to get better they first have to become worse. Btw, if you knew anything about me you'd know I'd never leave Spartans :)
02-12-2014, 14:23
Palem

Nothing you just said addressed anything I said, other than declaring that you aren't throwing a temper tantrum even though you confirmed that you would ruin thousands of players fun because you didn't get what you want.

This will be my last contribution to this thread, but be aware that if wars start getting interfered with next age, I'm pointing people in your direction.
02-12-2014, 14:38
LoRD_SaMPuaN

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Originally Posted by Bukharistan

I have no temper tantrum. Me and Squee have a good understanding, no worries. It's a way to get what I want, which is a change of the rules. I wish to improve the game, but sometimes in order for things to get better they first have to become worse. Btw, if you knew anything about me you'd know I'd never leave Spartans :)

imagine a situation where 2 kds will fight each other & both of them hate you.. kd a gives button to kd b, then they send you 40 hits each & kd b declares on kd a.. what will you do?

trust me, your understanding is not so good on this perspective :p
02-12-2014, 16:15
Bukharistan

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Nothing you just said addressed anything I said

Welcome to uto-forum. Isn't that what we do out here?

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kd a gives button to kd b, then they send you 40 hits each & kd b declares on kd a.. what will you do?

trust me, your understanding is not so good on this perspective :p

I would raze into their wars, and try to razekill as many province as I possibly could.
02-12-2014, 16:27
Zantetsuken

Remove razekilling from the game. **** diplomacy. Stop intra-kd war from destroying honor. Remove penalty to gains in war from outside kds. Remove GBP and nw-based gains. Allow multis. Now that's a game.
02-12-2014, 17:26
Bukharistan

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Stop intra-kd war from destroying honor.

Yes please, that would definitely make whoring more fun again, no more LD-deals.

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Remove GBP and nw-based gains.

Wouldn't say remove it, but it should be loosened. It's a joke that after 1 orc-hit the next hit is like 40-50% less gains.
02-12-2014, 19:13
protector

Remove 24hour protection completely, go back to 72h. Problem solved.
02-12-2014, 23:29
LoRD_SaMPuaN

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Originally Posted by Bukharistan

Welcome to uto-forum. Isn't that what we do out here?

I would raze into their wars, and try to razekill as many province as I possibly could.

wait a second, werent you advocating to prevent oow razes/razekills?
03-12-2014, 00:20
Bukharistan

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wait a second, werent you advocating to prevent oow razes/razekills?

Not at all, read up, I never stated that. It's perhaps what others made of my words.

I do not frown upon razing into wars, I frown upon the fact that there is a way to do it without any repercussions for the individual doing it (other than wasting his time). If kingdom X decides to raze into KD Y's war, kingdom Y can always decide to end the war, and take the fight to them (as happened this age with Ronin and the war they fought). There is a perpetrator, there is somone that suffers, and once war has ended scores can be settled. There is a visible enemy that can be fought with/dealt with/diploed with. If any of you ever played online shooters with friendly fire on, you know that most games have mechanics in place to prevent people from 24/7 shooting their teammates, reconnecting and doing it again time and time again. If you play a footy match, and you foulmouth a player of the opposition, he can decide to hit you/injure you, but at least there are repercussions for the player in question. Imagine if that player could just start over wtih a new team and play vs you again the next week?
04-12-2014, 14:42
trekdrop

Now that I am reading this all again with a more clear mind, I do lean more towards Palem and Squee's line of thinking. If a group of friends creates a bunch of Avian Warriors to screw you, then yeah, it is likely you screwed up somewhere too. :)

As long as I have been playing the game, there have always been ways to be a complete d-bag, if one wanted to do so.
And while you can restrict the game, people that want to annoy the crap out of others will always find a way to do so. E.g. removing GBP would bring its own problems. It may be better, it may not be.
Limiting the game just means less options for others, while giving recognition to the trolls that forced the change.

Bottom line is that the game should and will always evolve and so will the players. Back in the days you could get insta declared by two KD's 120% your size simultaneously, PK'ing in war was the norm, not an exception and in giant scale alliance wars 3-4 KD's vs 1 was not uncommon.

So Bukhy, best to just stick with Spartans and play with positive energy, then waste your own and other people's time with the A-Team razing into people's wars. I thought about it and figured it would not be fun at all - Playing because you are angry...
04-12-2014, 15:19
Bukharistan

I never seriously entertained the idea lol. And I'm not a Spartan anymore, I'm a pewpewer! This does mean that from now on I'll behave on this public forum, which might come as a relief to some, but as a major shock to others (a minority I think). Then there is of course the group of people that don't care, and a group of people that say they don't care yet they do (probably larger than the former group).

If someone assholes you, just deal with it. Suck it up, apologize until they stop, then move on. I don't see why every frustration should lead to retribution. If someone annoys me and you're powerless to do something against it (which we are pretty much always IRL), then just accept that.
04-12-2014, 15:36
Palem

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Originally Posted by Bukharistan

Btw, if you knew anything about me you'd know I'd never leave Spartans :)

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Originally Posted by Bukharistan

And I'm not a Spartan anymore, I'm a pewpewer!

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04-12-2014, 15:55
Bukharistan

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Quote Originally Posted by Bukharistan View Post
Btw, if you knew anything about me you'd know I'd never leave Spartans :)
Quote Originally Posted by Bukharistan View Post
And I'm not a Spartan anymore, I'm a pewpewer!

Would it make you feel good if I said I was a liar?
04-12-2014, 18:53
Slayerviper

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Originally Posted by protector

Remove 24hour protection completely, go back to 72h. Problem solved.

/end thread
04-12-2014, 19:27
Squee311

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Originally Posted by Palem

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totally worth you posting again after you said you were stepping away from the thread.

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