24 provinces + a prov starting over in protection + a 400 acre province who has been inactive for weeks + a province sitting at 500 acres = basically starting it 21vs25. key word being basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig
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24 provinces + a prov starting over in protection + a 400 acre province who has been inactive for weeks + a province sitting at 500 acres = basically starting it 21vs25. key word being basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig
pretty much the typical guy , you went from blaming a province in protection , an inactive , province sitting at 500 acres when you could have eat the waves and offer cf . Or are you afraid things might just happen the way you guys had with SH .Quote:
Originally Posted by nive
What goes around comes around . TBH you just made your own KD looked worst than before.
I'll second this one. What in the world could have been going through their heads?Quote:
Originally Posted by Drosta
Lol nom nom nom
I'm with the underdogs in this match up. Yes - Myrmidons were uncool in exploiting the break-CF mechanic - but that's their only real fault (no other proof of them dealing badly with SH has been convincingly shown). Other than that - I think they're looking good beside E Boko's thugs - just compare:
Myrm vs SH - exploited CF mechanic - dishonourable indeed.
E Boko's thugs vs Myrm - bullying, threatening, obfuscating data - and might I speculate probably anticipating to renege on Myrm's CF offer to "teach them a lesson"... overall I think you guys are less honourable.
Kudos to Myrmidons for standing up to fight - lots of backbone there - I admire that. Whether you guys win or lose the MATERIAL war, you have already won the SPIRITUAL war vs E Boko. (but not against SH.)
Of course I don't know the truth - I have only my opinion, for however many cents it's worth. Do correct me if I'm wrong - but please provide good data and in clear writing, if you can. :-)
I don't see how pressing a button and getting yourself farmed is winning any war, physical nor spiritual. Revenge is a dish best served cold. And considering there is now 96 hrs of end of war CF as a possibility you can't even use the excuse of "fattening up the kingdom so they get waved" anymore.
Drosta we war to have fun, you don't know much about what is going on yet you keeping posting useless crap here :). I know i am awesome but you gotta stop the e-stalking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drosta
If I would be e-stalking I would be constantly addressing you, nive.
And maybe if you would listen to the "useless crap" I post you would actually win wars.
Personally donating even more acres to a kingdom that takes a dump on you doesn't qualify for me as "having fun" but to each his own I guess.
This is probably an unfair remark. They are 3/4, not counting the "spiritual war" they are winning right now :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Drosta
In most respects I agree with aremarf's assessment. On the other hand, there is a fine line between demonstrating backbone and bald stupidity. Maybe they have shown backbone, but I think at this point they are straying towards stupidity.
More trolling from Drosta, I am going to go back to ignoring your stupidity now. I love how all these kids come here talking **** but hide which kingdom they are from. You don't play on boko's kd do you drosta?Quote:
Originally Posted by Drosta
Our goal is to go full blown retard this war.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheImmortal
Well you can't argue with that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nive
First I play in SH and now I play in Icey, nive? I play in neither. Not everyone who does not agrees with you is necessarily from the other side. When you act stupid in public, people are going to comment on that. If you don't want to be trolled as you say, don't post anymore. The biggest trolling that happens around here are still your own posts where you cannot counter arguments with logic but instead with accusing others of being "trolls", SH crybabies or E_Boko sycophants. Must be a small little box that you are living in. :rolleyes:
when the head is full of arrogance and stupidity there's little space for humility and intelligence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drosta
lol im the bully for forcing them to hit war button? just wanted the CF button hit. damn son. morals really have changed around here.
It's really only you and tufkuki continously making your ridiculous posts now. Funny how quickly tufkuki added his nonsensical retort as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drosta
Me asking if you play in Icey is different from me claiming you are from there. Keep twisting my words and avoiding the question. I simply asked you which kingdom you play in, knowing that will give us some perspective into your behaviour. You cowards keep posting and getting angry while you dodge an easy question. The assumptions you make are getting ridiculous, at this point I don't even know what you guys are talking about.
Do me a favour, when you reply to this with more of your crap add your kingdom's name. Grow a pair. Drosta from what others have said in here about you and from your posts you come off as a troll, don't be so upset you are just one of those angry forum posters :).
Boko clearly you showed a lack of morals during this whole thing. Don't live in denial my friend. It's okay though I still love you, you mean old grump you :)Quote:
Originally Posted by E_Boko
you coulda just sent the CF option...lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL-hNMJvcyI
/me dances
nive: Sometimes one does not want to disclose his kingdom because:
1. My posts don't have anything to do with my kingdom and I don't want my monarch having to deal with poor hurt souls that want vengeance because they didn't like what I said on the public forum.
2. Whether I play in a ghetto or in a top 10 kd it really doesn't change the validity of my posts. Logical arguments remain the same no matter who says them. That and where you play doesn't say much anymore with not-so-great players playing in top kingdoms purely because they are active and retired veterans residing in ghetto's. Case-in-point: All the Sonata trollfags are probably better players than each one of us here but their post behaviour hardly reflects that.
And where do you get that I am angry? I have a huge smile on my face every time you reply. It's not my fault that tufkuki thought that my post made sense and chose to reply on it. I have no clue who or where he is.
What E_Boko did is what any sane kingdom does. No in-game CF offer means a hostile button and you don't want to move on with a kingdom having a button on you to prevent you from being jumped out of war. It is not bullying it is protecting your own kingdom. I am sure DDodge is smart enough to take note. He made mistakes but in my opinion his lead and your kingdom will be alright if you stay out of silly ventures like this. TheImmortals is also right that I am a bit harsh but I am just a devious person.
Both teams played hard, god bless.
nice alibi. sounded like sh (before they were denied and refuted by some trolls)Quote:
Originally Posted by nive
congrats on the war e_boko
justice served before christmas ;)
This sounds so similar to how Ddodge justified his breaking of the CF - that it is "what any sane kingdom does". The breakdown in negotiation - if I remember correctly - was at the point E Boko wanted a concession (a free wave?), and Ddodge was unwilling to concede that. They back and forthed quite a bit over that before it went to war. It's debatable who is fair or not, stupid or not. But just as I came down on SH's side for the CF issue - I'm on Myrm's side here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drosta
For too many players - too many things (arrogance, chauvinism, material advantage) come before being honourable (or rather, fair, if honourable is too slippery a term) and sportsmanlike. Maybe I'm just naive - I'm pretty disillusioned with how people behave at the top in real life too. Too few good people in power, in government, in commercial entities. But I also believe we are all agents and our words and actions have power - ergo - I spend time speaking up in a public forum.
Situation is entirely different.
Myrmidons vs Stronghold: By accepting the CF the conflict was over. By breaking it they engaged in another conflict. Myrmodins are the active player in this conflict.
Myrmidons vs Icey: There was never a CF sent from Myrmidons thus it is an active conflict. Icey even sent a CF that was withdrawn due to continuation of hostile activities. Myrmidons are again active player in this conflict.
And CF's being accepted by kingdoms that wave you - I came to find out that most are pretty much like Santa and kids. Good kingdoms (ones that don't retal en-masse) get their CF accepted quickly. Bad kingdoms get waved again. Free wave is acceptable consequence for grabbing back + MS blanket.
lol all i read was I am a coward who wants to keep trolling anonymously. and tufkuki is the last person you want thinking your post makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drosta
the reason you are not making logical arguments is because you have no idea what happened between us and SH, and you have no idea what happened between us and icey. the funny thing is the kingdoms involved in all this are pretty cool with each other and there really isn't too much drama now.
and finally merry christmas and happy holidays folks, drosta santa is soo gonna give you a bag of coal you naughty naughty boy.
The human mind wants to see actors and recipients of actions - it's encoded into morphosyntactic verb systems very richly (e.g. nominative-accusative case marking, word order, etc). But it's really interactions here - right? Not just one active party. One could easily say as well - Icey is the active party - they initiated offence, offered a CF for perhaps a grand total of 2 minutes before retracting it to make themselves look good, took continuous action to raze and stomp a smaller opponent into the ground. (I do realise this is a biased view - I say this to prove a point.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Drosta
My opinion is it's probably not productive to use the terms active, reactive, passive, in this discussion. Myrm and Icey and SH are all actors with free wills - they can all be responsible for their actions.
Your second paragraph talks about the acceptability of things. This "norm" - I suppose it arises from what the average player base accepts as normal. It was acceptable to own slaves in the past. It is acceptable today to exploit cheap workers in 3rd world nations. It is acceptable too to pollute the environment and consume resources derived from trashing the environment today. But these norms are changing - cultures are changing.
My point is: norms, i.e. what is acceptable, are often being negotiated and hammered out. It's not as black and white as Santa giving gifts to children. And I am speaking up for the kind of norms I would like to see in my community.
Better a coward and smart than being headstrong but being farmed.
Ive heard people being called trolls and stuff but Nive arent you doing the same as well?
Drosta if you were smart you would have stopped posting here a while ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drosta
As far as I am concerned we came out ahead in this war, we land dropped like we wanted to, got a crap ton of science out of it, and were able to get some excitement out of this game.
And boko you play a weak connect 4, remember when I beat you in the first 5 moves =P
Maybe, sometimes when talking to trolls you can't help but sink to their level. Want to give me examples of my trolling behaviour though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katje
Ill get back with you tomorrow on that one. :P Reading this whole thread for exact words will take a while. I have found at least with certain trolls,the one thing they hate is being ignored. If you ignore them maybe they will go away.
I havent played connect 4 in a long time.lol
As long as you keep biting I'll keep posting, nive.
I suppose that is going to be the new excuse of losing wars.
"We got the landdrop we wanted and we even got 2k honour and a few books out of it. We won this war!"
It is even more sadder than the "tactical withdraw" fad that was around in the Alliance Rankings days.
Oh and nive. When you learn about responsibility you learn to be a little bit more careful how you post. Back when I was not a father and a husband I used to have my picture up and would PM my home address to whoever wanted to beat me up with a club. Now that I am not only responsible for myself anymore I won't indulge myself in that anymore. With that I have learned the same responsibility for my kingdom mates. They don't need to suffer the consequences of what I say. In some people's eyes cowardly but I would consider it responsible.
Drosta you are a father? If you are then I truly hope you are indeed an internet troll and do not act like this in real life, for your child's sake. Also terrible analogy and trust me I don't plan to waste my time with outside of these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drosta
In terms of the war all we really care about it having a good time and we accomplished that. We chained down 8 provinces, they chained down 8 provinces. We had the T/M advantage the whole war as well, unfortunately the war was basically 21v25 and being down 4 to start made it very difficult.
Also I am gonna be biting all day so prepare to spend the rest of your life responding to me. You are so lucky that someone so awesome like myself is giving you the time of day, and you should know I enjoy responding to losers like yourself so keep going.
Yeah that's true, I'll just start ignoring Drosta from now on the guy if he was a brave troll I would keep going but a cowardly one is no fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katje
lol funny , when did nive started trying to talk like an adult. To me you're just a like a puppy , biting and barking whatever things people throw at you . Sounds like a SDS .
Here bite this :D
saving it for later...
You wish. You were not taking anybody down. You couldn't break us.
NIve - you are on drugs - for having the TM advantage - we had funded and sent 3 dragfons with a 4th funded. Sounds like a poor TM advantage.
Tasty - the only reason we couldn't break you is because besides your top 2 provinces, you basically stopped attacking. That means we disabled 4 additional provinces because the moment they attacked anything decent, they were going down. One was even gonna go down whether or not he attacked.
Stop talking out of your butts like you did something. Everyone had inactivity problems. We had a faery go inactive for the last 2 days of the war. We had another province whose brother was threatening to kill him so he wasn't as active. You lost, all your attackers that had any sort of talent were below 200k, most of ours were above 300k. Give all the excuses you want, but you were outplayed, and outstrategized. Say GG and get over it.
ssssshhhh.save it for our article dammit :-P
You won, Thats true but you were not bringing us down Thats all im sayin. You might have wished you could but thats all it is, a wish
Mirage was on its way down. XBrawn could be broken without sending out. Rampage couldn't send out more then 70k without being taken down. Soundwave wasn't sending more then 40-50k if that. The only reason you weren't going down is because you were paralyzed by the fear of being chained to the ground. Call it what you want, but attacking provinces half your size because you don't have cajones was a win for us.
Ok bro, Whatever you need to tell yourself. You played well and won but stop acting like you could have done it. If you could have you would have. Right? Right.
Great Job to ALL!!!! Everyone fought bravely but dont act like Im a coward just cause you couldnt break me ok.
lol turtle power.
this article needs to go up alrdy.
Why?? You hoping to get famous or something?? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by E_Boko