I have offered you different terms for a CF deal instead of you fighting us, but you still insist that you wont accept anything else then 1 week prep time or a EoA CF for 0 acres.
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I have offered you different terms for a CF deal instead of you fighting us, but you still insist that you wont accept anything else then 1 week prep time or a EoA CF for 0 acres.
Are you saying Elit is being unreasonable? It's that time of the age that Elit flips the switch. I am going to enjoy this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Binar
Deal break and insist acres from deal break advantage is not deal i can accept. EOA CF is best way for move on from all drama or if your kd look for good war you can give us proper time so we can prepare and have real war. I have done it every age. You are talking how Pew Pew is "most fair kingdom" but you are well know for vulture other kingdoms and run/shape chart when you cant win war. Did you ever gave any one extra time for prepare and war? How "evil" AMA can give rest kds time for prepare and "fair pew pew" cant? You are all about take easy acres. Guess you are trying to do your way up like SWEA but Mansor was much better on making good story for read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Binar
#1 Iam not dealbreaking, and I will refuse to reply to any msgs claiming that I am
#2 Iam not looking for a good war, i am after your acres
#3 the deal for a 3 week CF for 17% of ur acres (was 16,5k yesterday when I first offered it, is a tad more now cause of ur pool usage) still stands
#4 I offered to retract notice and renotice to give you 12hours more of prep time just cause Iam a nice guy. You choose to threaten me with GB/threaten to farm out to someone else/ threaten to farm out to me (lol?!?) instead
#5 ....?
#6 Profit!
Completely ridiculous to ask pewpew for 1 week preptime. Not sure what game you think you are playing. Pewpew has sat trained for +1 week waiting for you and you knew about it all along. You had all opportunity to prep and you chose to go for Jerks b2b instead. Get real.
1. When you dont keep deal your kd made its deal break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Binar
2. Its good you admit you are looking for easy acres.
3. Deal you want to force from deal break advantage is not deal i can agree.
4. retract notice with 12h is pure joke. Im look for its to be solved peaceful but if you keep it sure im expect rest kds to help when you deal break.
Who? Really interested in seeing the long list of AMA friendsQuote:
Originally Posted by Elit
Every one who dont want to get same **** in return and not get help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Binar
Paging Jimmy deGoodz
So I take it that you re-engaged Jerks to have a "fair balanced b2b war"Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
LOL
u crack me up elit
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Originally Posted by Binar
What about Jerks FB us and 3 days later you jumped on us when we wared early. Now jerks did same and you jump again. When Pew Pew become this kind kd not able to play 1vs1 and constant use other kds help for win war?
You gave ops to a random kingdom after u launched a bank with no WPA, thats not my fault.
According to your logic its Jerks fault that you gave ops to SPGC and they FGed 50mil from you, and its my fault that you gave ops to Jerks and they FBed you.
#learn2whore
Although we touched on it already;Quote:
Originally Posted by TommyB
Shai was right, it is a propaganda machine as the notice is valid as the conflict had changed directions and AMA was doubling more then one province. We also went so far as to offer some extra time to AMA since Jerks was not quite in war yet as a nice gesture. Now this conflict has been brought to the forums so AMA can say we are not honest and that we do not believe in fairplay publicly to slander our reputation. I can not speak to the past as I only came home, [back to my old shell, now Pew] mid age last age. From what I have seen since I joined there has been nothing but fairplay. There were many options to do many things to the contrary including screw over AMA last age and fight RBL as we had the valid option to, and continue to pound on AMA after we won our war ensuring they couldn't recover and would not be able to progress further in the age. Those are merely two things I can quickly recite as honorable actions. I have played in many KDs where the ethic is not nearly to the standard we are setting in Pew. This last issue with AMA, is close to the line in AMAs eyes, however we had to stall our age and lost time since we had only 48 hrs notice. We had been waiting for them to jump us the entire time and had to plan around it, so seeing Jerks take on another opponent after getting farmed out, our eyes turned to the option and decided it would be a good time to have a fun war between the two kingdoms. Seeing the war a couple hours later solidified our sent notice and there should have been no further issue. However we were greeted by Elit and Cello responding to us saying it was invalid, so what do we do? To pacify the issue we recovered logs thus proving the 48H notice was indeed correct and I even offered to re-notice some 8-10 hours after initial notice while Bin was doing diplo with Elit. We offered this to him to try and make feelings better and make them happy. That failed terribly as well, they want way too much when we did nothing wrong. Us even offering to change something that much is a grand gesture on Pews behalf yet certain people still want to accuse us of a dealbreak. It simply isn't so.
Any how looking at Tommys post, I had to reply, the accusations are flying so wildly its simply preposterous.
"Well let's start at the beginning when Jerks FB AMA cow before their first conflict with Pew. Is it against the rules? No. Is it one kingdom spending their resources to help another kingdom in their upcoming conflict? Sure."
--> This is absurd, as was mentioned we weren't even aware of who Jerks was at this point and this type of response is usually generated when a kingdom does an absurd retal like 7 for 1 hit. They saw it was a top tier KD and wanted retribution, how could they do so? FB a huge province with terrible WPA. There was no coordination at all, especially since both kingdoms aren't allies, we waved them last age for some acres even. Yet again more propaganda aimed at discrediting Pews hard work and ethics.
"Then Jerks engage them in war and instead of doing what is best for their kingdom, they make strategic move to weaken them for upcoming conflict again by doing max gain on their big provs instead of working out a CF agreement and prefer to engage in round 2, throwing their own kingdom under the bus, coincidentally making sure AMA grows big in acres while eating ops."
--> Second part is almost blatantly obvious enough within itself, however I shall entertain it. Many players, monarchs, and people who know how to play and/or have played for a little while even, know that taking the most acreage you can back before you withdraw evens out your losses. Its just that simple. Accusing Pew on being aligned with Jerks to "weaken them" is entirely off basis, another shot in the dark by the propaganda machine attempting to tarnish the reputation.
"Finally the timing of Jerks' war and giving notice makes it pretty obvious the whole thing is orchestrated from both kingdoms (Jerks and Pew). So how can anyone really argue that it isn't two kingdoms coordinating their actions to hurt a third, cordially known as 2v1?
I don't even care much about the fact, I simply get riled up when people make up stupid stories to deny the obvious."
--> Lastly, it can appear orchestrated, sure however, we could have noticed at any point really if we wanted to dealbreak. At the end of the EoWCF would have been a perfect time, or at the start when relations weren't even really began. This is not how we do things, we do have integrity despite the uncouth manner in which we are being accused. We saw Jerks were taking it upon themselves to war someone else as AMA had already farmed anything worthwhile. This, and AMA clearly wanting to war someone, [as stated in forums multiple times] showed us they would likely war and would be happy while doing so. This way they get to hit a kingdom smaller and find a war they so desperately sought. Since now AMA feels they are not holding all the advantages, they are crying dealbreak, which simply isn't true. Its sad that this is what they resort to when they do not have a million advantages while opposing kingdom lacks any advantage, but this is the style of play everyone knows AMA for. And as for this Tommy character saying he does not care... just lol, why would you help the propaganda machine and further the issue, if you don't care you wouldn't have tried to further discredit us.
At this point the whole thing should have been explained out enough for the simplest of people to understand. Pew and AMA will fight, it will not be on AMAs terms [for once] and it will be a fun and exciting war. GL to both kingdoms and I wish the best to AMA.
AMA crying about poor sportsmanship makes me smile
At least some one is happy :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Spice