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wow what, we down 4k acres in war and we gained 4k acres in hostile?
I dont get to keep warring because they say we have lost a war we knew was high risk of losing going into it?
We have nothing to lose at all going into this war and thats how were playing it.
If anyone expected anything else out of Simians they was wrong. We war for a long time and we wont get out til either A) their banks gained to much or B) We finished with core battle
Them having 30-40k acres stacked on banks does not touch me in the back even. And why would it? They had that from the start when we waved them. If they want to win this war, they gotta fight harder then this.
Thats all for now, thank you very much for your time :)
Do you really forget the content of your posts in lead up to war?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
The war ends when they take your tm and you can't take theirs and have any hitters left while they still have the cows.
Simples.
Good war, but with econ/Dragon disadvantage vs 3 calfs and even on the tm/hitter front, can't see a way you win now..
Showed flaws in 'em, but started a bit too far behind, for my money. :)
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Originally Posted by anri
Anri isn't painting a very good picture of himself... and the more he posts now the worst it's looking. Poor monkeys.
Pyro your age is done regardless of outcome since you are getting farmed by AMA or CR depending who fights you first, no representative from the n00b alliance in T3, all will be farmed :)
Yeah the bigger those banks get... it just means more meat for CR's 16ks to devour.
We waved into fort stance and they declared us armys out. We are not down any acres so why should we WD?
Get ur heads out of your asses, no matter how much people tell me to WD i will not WD until we are done. The longer i can keep Pyros in war the better it will be for ourselfs in the future and for other KDs that likes to farm them. As long as we can fend them off like we do and continue to work on them there is not a single reason to why we should WD from this war. Them having banks is not a reason alone to WD, if so we could have WD with max gain wave at min time, but why would we do this, we knew they had bank advantage from the start.
Why would this make me look bad, we do not have a CF to Pyro in the future, having them in war is a good thing for us. Should i WD because they want to WD?
If they are gaining acres or feel they are awesome they should want to continue the war with us.
We HAVE nothing to lose, no matter what Nesta, cJ, Ofgortens, PS or anyone says.
Have fun guys! Well see how things proceed when Pyro and thier friends is gone from the top competition. Maybe they can war each other, would not be suprising.
typical anri, portray himself at disadvantage and FSU when losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Lol @ Anri. Talking all high and mighty at the start of this conflict, how they're crushing them. Banks win wars, Anri? Did you see the war between RBL and AMA? I can assure you that their banks didn't win the war for them :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Now you're just staying in war to soften Pyro up for whoever gets to war them next? Are you trying to claim part of another kingdom's crown by doing their job for them? Don't be ridiculous, man.
Don't talk all high and mighty, playing Pyro off as nubs, and then not withdraw when they're beating you fair and square. You knew they had banks, you said you had a plan, you told everyone that you couldn't possibly lose this conflict because you had your plan, and now you're losing.
You're saying we couldn't have expected anything else from Simians, well we didn't :P As you can see, reading up in this thread, a farmout was predicted, and a farmout it will be :P
Also, Anri, don't ridicule Pyro for not having fought AMA yet, since they probably won't back down from a challenge when we wave them. Unlike you, who spread propaganda about us dodging a christmas war and then refused to push the button when we gave it to you on christmas day.
+1 no sportsmanship. how quickly a monkey change itself to portray as underdog who has a say to shape chart. but this excuse usually out only after starting to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cello
Cello doling it out by the scoopful
This is why simians are a farm kingdom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
You should withdraw when you have lost the war.
Same for RBL, its why they ended at 62k acres instead of 80k
now now. I think that its possible that anri's statements can be read together rather than as conflicting...
It is appropriate to try to read things together.
statement 1 (generally summed from all the pre-war spam): simians thinks it can and will win against pyro, but if it does not, then oh well.
statement 2 (generally from the most recent pages) : simians is losing, but not out yet, but they may as well stay in and ruin pyro if they can (from spite? for revenge against the "alliance"? for nothing more than its more fun to stay in war than be out of war?)
We can read those as contradictory, but a more reasoned approach is to read them together with the words "but now that" in-between them
statement 3: simians thinks it can and will win against pyro, but if it does not, then oh well. BUT NOW THAT simians is losing, but not out yet, but they may as well stay in and ruin pyro if they can.
and in addition, who are we to judge anri's fun? Let him do what makes him happy.... this is why I keep telling everyone to not bother with simians..... just ignore them.
Elit drank the blood of RBL.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
I said all along that we will fight Pyro coming in with disadvantages that we need try TRY and overcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cello
We dont soften them for you, we soften them for ourselfs knowing others will eventually fight them as well. Its only yr7.
I havre not ONE time said i have a plan where i knew the outcome of the war would make us winners. We also IS not farming out.
Pyro started on 115k acres, we started on 100k acres.
But lol, does not matter what you AMA ppl or anyone else thinks. We know what we done here and Cello, we faught 4 banks, not 2 and a half banks and we did not have 3 WWs luxary in science. Anyway. Age is still young and the more you talk the less likely we will WD here and the more likely we raze AMA by EoA to make Havoc crown.
Elit and Proteus keep your dog in a leash
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Originally Posted by Anri
the situation keep changing as and when monkey speaksQuote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Originally Posted by Anri View PostQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumdidam
Best of luck to Pyros. Two kds pretty decently matched here. They might have a slight advantage with thier twin-towers and some science on us. Nothing we cant overcome and should be a sexy war vs Pyro. We have some unfinished affairs ever since Ovenmitt lead a fiasco war against Pyro. All respect to Pyro if they win another round.
Lets keep fair play and be gentlemen this time. GL
the situation keep changing as and when monkey speaks
(THE WAR IS NOT OVER)
We still have more or less same core as when the fight started and bigger t/ms.
So why would we WD? Sure thier banks, we were not able to overcome them.
But the war itself is not based on banks only. We fight core war now.
We have NOTHING to gain by WDing right now. I gotta look at my own KD, not what everyone else thinks should be done.
Nothing has changed from what i wrote above, we kept fair play, we are gentlemens.
When they outgain our core, we can happily wd. Just no reason for it right now. Absolutely not one single reason.
On the contrary, our t/ms gains out of this so we certainly dont feel like WDing.
No wait, we are down 4k acres, okey, i will emmediatly WD our forces.
GG
sarcasm
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Originally Posted by Anri
so from twin towers to 4 cows. suddenly you put a lot of credits on their bank because your TM unable to bring them down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
i think you just put up lots of excuse in justifying your kd performance when obviously people know why you are losing.
btw who make decision to wave into fortified? take responsibility of your action and not blaming the consequences. lol
My kds performance been flawless. Everyone is there for armies non stop. We battle their core and its a both fun and awesome fight.
We just dont WD being down 4k acres, and no we will not WD if thier summary says we are down 15k acres either before we wave because there is a huge amount of acres moving around. Why would we as a warring KD wd being 4k down that they stacked in thier banks?? Quadtapps for 1k acres is not uncommon. Its 4 army returns <-- We are tacts and we are not done fighting thier core yet. Ok!
Should we WD because longterm we can probably not win the war? We knew that going into the war FFS. Do i need to spell it out for people, i said there is 50/50 chance we can overcome the advantages they had. So what if we did not control thier banks, can we fight their core, no? War is over if we cant fight thier banks?
Whats wrong with people, let us war and have fun ffs
seriously
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Originally Posted by Anri
These two statements are contradictory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
No they dont, when speaking of 50/50 chance to overcome thier advantage i speak about thier banks aloneQuote:
Originally Posted by PhunkyPhishStyle
Here is summary after our wave:
May 21 of YR6 - January 21 of YR7
72 hours of conflict
Total Attacks Made: 536 (+91351 acres)
Total Attacks Suffered: 441 (-92472 acres)
Net Exchange: -1121 acres
Additional Information: Dragons & Relations
Our Kingdom: (Simians) -1121 acres (536/441) [135]
Dragons: Sent: 1 Received: 3
---Anonymous Hits---: +28243 acres (97/0) []
Friesian: +1144 acres (13/2) [5]
Interesting Times: +979 acres (21/5) [7]
Raistlin: +816 acres (16/0) [4]
No alarms anymore for me: +709 acres (32/15) [8]
Centurian: +569 acres (13/0) [4]
Rosso: +469 acres (16/0) [4]
arghh RORO: +443 acres (11/0) [4]
Justin Bieber: +313 acres (5/0) [2]
Queen of Blades: +201 acres (19/11) [6]
Dont want to be UnDead: +142 acres (2/0) [1]
Blood and Sand: -407 acres (22/21) [6]
it means no worries: -419 acres (28/41) [7]
LuckyShot: -789 acres (10/6) [5]
Woof bloody woof: -1116 acres (22/24) [6]
Chooey: -1687 acres (27/29) [8]
I eat elves for breakfast: -2022 acres (23/30) [7]
Help ME Im defenseless: -2125 acres (17/20) [7]
Oh No its HIM: -2395 acres (22/59) [7]
FazeBook: -2710 acres (21/33) [6]
Madara Uchiha: -2733 acres (24/33) [7]
luvulongtime: -2844 acres (19/28) [6]
Cheese Pie: -3551 acres (20/26) [6]
The Mentalist: -3671 acres (20/27) [5]
Paul Walker: -3805 acres (8/13) [3]
burundukos: -4875 acres (8/18) [4]
Enemy Kingdom: (Pyromaniacs) +1121 acres (441/536) [119]
Dragons: Sent: 3 Received: 1
---Anonymous Hits---: +31895 acres (117/0) []
23 keep moving forward: +3695 acres (18/1) [6]
02 something you already know: +2889 acres (15/2) [6]
03 The world aint: +1357 acres (9/0) [5]
10 to your knees: +1189 acres (7/5) [5]
13 You me or nobody: +1156 acres (8/3) [5]
16 But it aint about: +556 acres (9/0) [3]
09 it will beat you: +507 acres (21/7) [6]
25 We did it: +427 acres (19/19) [5]
08 how tough you are: +353 acres (25/15) [6]
01 Let me tell you: -183 acres (9/1) [3]
07 I dont care: -446 acres (4/5) [3]
05 Its a very mean: -715 acres (19/29) [6]
14 is gonna hit as: -936 acres (11/18) [7]
24 Yo Adrian: -989 acres (19/20) [5]
06 and nasty place: -1092 acres (7/10) [4]
15 hard as life: -1413 acres (9/15) [4]
22 you can take and: -1484 acres (13/17) [6]
04 all sunshine and rainbows: -2536 acres (7/20) [4]
11 and keep you there: -2787 acres (14/23) [4]
18 Its about how: -3494 acres (19/93) [5]
19 hard you can get: -4630 acres (11/60) [4]
20 hit and keep moving: -4682 acres (21/60) [5]
17 how hard you hit: -5048 acres (13/50) [4]
12 permanently if you let it: -5078 acres (1/10) [1]
21 forward how much: -7390 acres (16/53) [7]
We down 1k acres there.
We also started this war by waving them into fort stance. They declared us having armies out.
We still outhit them and we like to continue this fight.
In the hostile itself we had 4k acre gain. So okey, its thier wave incoming. I say its pretty even.
We stack acres on our t/ms, we break thier hybrid a/t/m now and then. They have banks and dragon advantage, we like to fight some more.
Enough said, summary and KD page speaks for itself. I will not WD based on what KD has banks only. Not until core is done.
if you choose to make decision even when you know that you will be at disadvantage then it's your problem. either you made those decision based on tactical consideration or it's simply stupid.
bringing it up again as a cause of losing is simply making it sound like a stupid decision or execution plan has failed.
Nobody's forcing you to withdraw, people are just telling you to get off your delusional high horse and stop judging other people, while not withdrawing when you are clearly losing a war. You may have noticed that RBL wasn't down more than a few acres the first few days of war, but that eventually they lost 20k+ acres. You might want to learn from them, or walk the same road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
And threatening with EOA razes because you can't win on arguments alone is kind of pathetic, Anri. Shows how much of a sore loser you are, how little you understand about fair play and top KD politics and how truly pathetic your propaganda about warring us at the start of the age truly was. You never had any intention of warring us fairly, you only bragged when you thought you had an advantage and ran when you realized you'd get creamed.
Back on topic: Pyro now controls this war and they'll slowly but surely win this. Well played Pyro, and truly living up to your farming name and game, Anri + Simians.
Congrats to Calle
No alternative, our CF ran out and hitting them first was far greater option then have them pump pump up and hit us first. Also, good for the future of our age, despite if we lose. I dont lay awake at night over losing a war we knew was high chances we would lose. Trust me, we waged some alternatives and making our move first on them no matter what was the only thing to do. I rather war and have a chance of winning over getting creamed in hostile and forced into war or giving free wave. I take war any day over hostile, if they gain some of the war with a WW it does not matter to us at all, it only concern other kds that like to hit them after war. It also benefits us. It was either stupid nor did execution fail, we done exactly what we can from our potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumdidam
We did not choose our disadvantage, we did not have CFs nor pool to match them better by the time CF ended. It more or less came down to a deal since yr1, if we could we would not have had the 48h notice that made them being able to explore 2 more banks and match our core better and it was a winning deal for them.
The fight itself was nothing we could run from, it was bound to happen ever since last age and i suspect a round 2 might be bound to happen later this age as well.
We rather war then give acres, we also dont run, we give war, we dont really care if we lose this round, ofc a win would be better, but then we would be the ones getting smacked around by either CR or AMA up there. It does not look good for either Pyro or Simians. And the alternatives below was not an option. This war was destined to happen.
So here we are today and fighting and having fun, we are losing to Pyro, they are winning and we were not ending it yet because there is no reason for us to end it right now. Thats just it.
I tought we had been over this many times. You waved us having our armies out on pyromaniacs, despite of this we did set a wave to declare AMA all up til Pyro started to retal back when you had waved us. We were not going to run and we were going to war you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cello
We just did not know where you were. Sure AMA had probably won over us, your KD is very strong. But why is it that Simians dont get to challenge your KD? Why dont we get to war Pyro at a disadvantage and try the challenge? What is the problem with challening the best kds on this server and have a go at them? There is no inbetween. Everyone and thier mothers can tell we deeply outhit Pyro and if we had 4 banks on our side we would likely have won this war. On a side note i dont think either Pyro or Simians would have a chance vs AMA this age. We will still wanted to make the fight man. Get of your high horse and be glad ppl want to war and compete.
AMA is QQing because Simians are feeding Pyro cows.
Nah, the more acres Pyro gets from Simians the more acres will be transfered to AMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abscond
They should be joyful!
Anyway, we planned things to match 100k vs 100k acres. The forum exploded about our fight and we knew there was a big risk Pyro would explore up after BB fight because our stupid 48h notice. They added 15k acres, made two new cows and grew core.
We had no pool to counter it, we had all ready whored and explored all we could to match the 100k for a fun fight.
They had two twin-towers, so we grew 3 calfs to match it, we did not expect 4 cows vs 3 calfs fight.
It decided the outcome of the war and it made Pyro being at advantage enough to win the war.
We really never intended to fight 4 cows, we would have explored/whored in a different way if we had known beforehand.
It was nice play by Pyro, if they got adviced to do it or not does not matter. But it surely gave them the edge they needed to beat Simians here.
I somehow wish we could just kill banks to get more interesting wars, Bishop failed it yet another time.
We had probably whored/banked from the start of the age if we knew what we know now.
But GG Pyro you won this one
AMAs top could be pretty outnumbered depending on how much you let Pyros cows grow, and how many days you let them add to their explore pool to grow more provsQuote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Should be no problem for them!
Why would you expect pyro to fight you at even acres and let their pool be wasted?
Ohh, we did just not think they would be smart enough to make two more towers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
I know the banks decided outcome of the war here. Pyro came very close to WD by mintime until they might have noticed a way to turn the war in last minute.
Anyway, our CF was very lose also, we had to honor a 48h confirm deal ingame (reconfirm the deal because it was more or less a lose deal), becuase it was the right thing to do. Weather exploring cows or not is the right thing to do the gods can decide. It depends how much of a man you are before you go to war. Either you go to war 100k vs 100k and let the best KD win or you go to war 100k vs 115k and gain as many advantages as there possible is.
Its almost like adding 2 extra guys into a 11 man soccer team.
But okey, the 48h notice that losely was made yr1 and needed to be honored gave them the chance for it.
But they could also have grown only core because they had all ready a bank advantage of 2 twin towers.
But i dont blame them, it will be done towards them also, by us, maybe not this age, but def next one
Thought they dident know how to use the banks? And did they tell you they were close to WD? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Well yes. It was very very close to a mintime WD ........... ehh what?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
I must however say, that it was completely unfair of us to farther a few more semi goats and furthermore do propro stuff without clearing it with you guys before you send notice.
No comment with respect to privacyQuote:
Originally Posted by NoseBlood
Regarding banks, they cant play them. Does not mean we can take 4 of them down without having 4 banks ourself. ;-)