We arent allowed to post here? posting makes us look sore loser? and dealbreaking is such a heroic act.Just when i thought i started to understand through your blablabla.i am just replying to cell's post.
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Of course you are allowed, as I am allowed to reply to your posts. No, dealbreaking is not a heroic act, neither is double hostiling to get what you want but that seems to be disregarded in this. See, you seem to think that double hostiling is okey to get what you want but dealbreaking is not. You reap what you sow so to speak.
PewPew, Pyro, Havoc, and Simians could pretty easily solve this in the next 24 hours.
So you dont even know what I am talking about. Havoc did double hostile AMA toghter with Sanctuary some ages ago, supposdely cause Havoc couldnt stand getting no acres. Since then obviously its been a infected situation between AMA and Havoc.
That goes back to my first point, they have to all agree with eachother to do this co-op :P
Hahah, thats hilarious :) So its okey to wave another kd in a current conflict and thats not a hostile then? And as a i remember it Sanc did keep opping them through the whole time as Havoc waved them. Plus that jdorje farmed out gold to Havoc to help them. But you should know all this, but apparently you have a very screwed opinion of what a double hostile is. Hell even Nick_mi agrees with me on this one.
But I guess with that signature of yours you are doomed to be butthurt over AMA running you over.Quote:
I've told you I apologised for causing that 2v1 with sanc ages ago. I feel we we're both at fault, but I feel my decision to hit you after that sanc thing was a **** up. I've made amends with you, that being put aside, how do you logic us giving you a free CF?
Ama knew Havoc was coming for them and ama was begging havoc to stay away. Just read the first 15 pages of this thread.
Havoc had spent the better part of this age pumping and AMA's CF was about to expire.
What were ama's options?
Fight a much better pumped kd and get farmed.
Try to fight a better pumped Pyro and get vultured by Havoc oow no matter the outcome.
The only chance for ama to win the age was by hitting Havoc 5 days before cf expire, in the middle of their pump.
Then try to throw up 20 ages old dirt to try to justify their actions and hope Pyro and co refrains from teaming up with Havoc.
In either case it was a really lame move that should not go unpunished.
so Cello's only reasons for dealbreaking are that havoc and sanctuary doubled ama a few ages ago and that ama is a warring kd. LOL. its going to be interesting to see what happens next
Cute zmas, perhaps you should get a clue before posting ****? Your post is inaccurate and filled with holes.
But how is Havocs previous behavior justified? Why is this lame and Havoc is not? You mean cause its all "history" its okey and should be disregarded? I think its more fit too see this as payback rather than anything else, you reap what you sow after all.
Cello's post was too long, thread pretty much ended there.
So I wasn't in havoc the age they did that. None of the leaders who are makign decisions for last 3 ages were in there that age. You guys threatened to gb us once due to that even though none of the people leading(one of whom you supposedly respected) had been there. The fact is you guys are a dirty kd that use rhetoric and non-stop complaining in order to try justifying your constant **** playing. People had been telling me all age that Elit was nothing but a dirty player and couldn't be trusted with anything and wasn't fit to make things like cf's. I wish i had listened to them.
Why do people keep talking about what havoc did in the past? I don't see Havoc involved in this current conflict.
My hopes for the outcome of all this:
Simians wins age
Ovenmitt makes a triumphant return
Elit loses to a 7 year old girl at his chess tournament
Korp I dont think it's the same players playing/leading havoc now as it was then. And ama probably have a lot of new players as well.
It's two different kds.
Also, seeing how AMA begged havoc not to notice them makes it quite obvious this has nothing to do with some 10 year old grudge. That's just silly excuses.
Ama could have waved Havoc at any time over the last 5 weeks that havoc spent pumping on 30% draft. But no, they waited until 5 days before havoc was about to wave them.
It's quite obvious all their options were gone and they were pushed into a corner.
Either lose the age or dealbreak to win it.
two wrongs doesnt make a right. dealbreaking just cuz things dont go your way is not an excuse. every kd has the option to renew , extend or refuse to extend cf . this "4 years ago you did this to me" excuse is getting older and older each age and and it seems every kd that deal breaks uses it as a shield for ****play.
I understand ama about beeing worried they wont get a fair fight , so what? 90 % of figts on utopia arent fair , you put yourself in this situation. You and havoc had a diffrent strategy for the age , and this time havoc's strat payed of better..but this isnt an excuse for dealbreaking.
If I traced back the shell of each top kd I could find so much bad play.
As your proteus pointed out, a kd stops being a kd when the leadership leaves (see rage RBL). CR =/= Havoc. And with that since Elit is away getting elbow deep in chess groupies, you now have all the ****/power play from proteus on your head.
After talking it over there is 1 player left from that age currently in kd.
With that logic anyone can do **** then just replace few players and leadership each age to avoid any consequense. I am sorry it dont work like that, Absalom made sure thats now how it works.
Yet again, its not 10 year old grudge, neither is it a 20 ages. They respected the CF, as long as they werent pushed into a corner, if you push someone hard enough eventually they will bite obviously.
korp u seem to forget an aspect. every kd has the right to play thier advantage as they see fit .
I dont see anything wrong with how Havoc played this out besides maybe threatning to double hostile AMA if they engaged with Pyro. Its just the hypocrisy of the people of Havoc, they getting upse for something done to them while they have no issues with playing dirty themselves.
Elit is a chess player.
I have the same hobbie, how does pyro crown from here?
that was a genius move (though more likely lame one) by AMA. my mind is so fixated on three options. i ddnt know that there's that bloody option 4! CR cows just caught having their pants down.
i do think they have not trained/drafted those soldiers yet. well, the epic war on this age just been spoiled
Wait, did they just make a 35k acre wave??
War hero is crap everyone says, but crap can blind you if it hits you in the eye. ;-)
I think I said flexible defensive posture.
A quick tap of the nw tab and I see the former CR distribution has changed dramatically. This is brilliant stuff AMA-PB.
also after that sanc/havoc/ama debacle, next age ama/bb threatened havoc with 2vs1 in order to get a cf using the same excuse. according to your logic one can use an event to justify ****play age after age. that's just insane.
anyone who has any brains can see this move was ama's only chance to win this age so they decided to throw amorality out of the window and secure their crown. i am curious what elit, the creator of ama, will have to say since apparently he was away.
also i am curious what Proteus has to say about initiating this move (according to cello) since he constantly complained on these forums about other people not respecting the deals they had with him and ****playing him over the ages.
So wait where is JSS this age??
Tricky situation, but very Real of you Cello to admit that "ethics have gone out the window." Props.
Can I just ask - why did everyone give CR such long CFs this age? Wasn't it obviously going to end in this situation where they had obscene amounts of science and gold stockpiled and looking to crush?
Edit: Also, my favourite Children of Bodom song is Downfall.
I see angels burning, falling down in ruins
Looking down I see my ashes scattered around my grave...
When gangbang ensues there will be one kingdom that rise above others #crown4binbin
Don't try to make sense of what you do not understand, and have misread. Proteus and I both lead this wave, but if anyone is to blame it is me. I have responsibility as Elit's second, not Proteus, although he has been a great amount of help.
Also, as has been mentioned before, we are not doing this to win the age. Most likely we will not win the age. We have been talking to kingdoms like Pyro, PewPew, Legacy and RBL and have stated our intentions to them. You are an idiot if you think that we thought we were ever going to win the age with this move.