UF NEWS: Empyreans and Undecided Pre-Xmas War

UF NEWS: Empyreans and Undecided Pre-Xmas War

Empyreans and Undecided were sitting comfortably at the lower top 100 charts when they both started looking for a pre-xmas war. Undecided sent a message to Empyreans seeking war following a rematch promise from last age and as Empyreans had earlier on in the age requested the rematch, accepted it as it was a no brainer says Tina, Empyreans' monarch. Empyreans responded by starting an Emerald Dragon on May 5 of YR6 and started massarces on Undecided's provinces who had a good defence against ops to underpop them as well as set them up as fireball targets when the war started. Undecided who were seeking the war in the first place, quickly escalated relations during their hostile to move the hostile meter. Undecided responded to Empyrean's Emerald Dragon with a Ruby Dragon. Empyreans seeing as Xmas was around the corner decided to escalate relations after their massarce wave and gave button the Undecided. Undecided quickly pushed the button once it came into their hands and war begun.


June 24 YR6 We have declared WAR on Empyreans Hostile (xx:yy)!


During the hostile phase, Empyreans noticed that Undecided had difficulty getting activity up so they went straight for chaining Undecided's active provinces to demoralize their kd. They also launced multiple Fireballs against those massarced provinces in order to control their economy.

Undecided, having troubles of their own had one of their provinces deleted just as war started. According to Muddy, Undecided's monarch, the province in question was a problematic player who lacks teamwork and he had expected him to leave at a moment's notice, but not just as war was declared. Muddy also commented that most strategies went out of the window after 24 hours as he saw many great opportunistic chains go to waste and prepared for a withdrawal plan



Despite both kds slaying their first dragons, only Empyreans sent a second dragon and they chose Ruby as a follow up to their emerald dragon. Undecided did not manage to fund their second dragon and seeing as the war is a lost cause, Undecided quickly withdrew at minimum time.



February 1 of YR7 Unable to achieve victory, our Kingdom has withdrawn from war with Empyreans War (xx:yy). Our failed war has finally ended!



SUMMARIES:

Hostile Summary for Empyreans
For the period of May 5 of YR6 to June 23 of YR6 (43 hours)
-- By UPCF [0.99c] http://www.k3ltic.com/utopia/prince

** Summary **

Total Attacks Made: 18 (393 acres)
-- Traditional March: 3 (370 acres)
-- Ambush: 1 (23 acres)
-- Raze: 1 (21 acres)
-- Massacres: 10 (11707 people)
-- Plunders: 1
-- Failed Attacks: 2 (11.1% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 27 (516 acres)
-- Traditional March: 9 (477 acres)
-- Ambush: 1 (39 acres)
-- Massacres: 8 (7289 people)
-- Learns: 4
-- Plunders: 4
-- Failed Attacks: 1 (3.7% failure)


The Kingdom of (Empyreans)

Total acres exchanged: -123 acres (18/27)
+99 acres: Empyrean Defense (3/3)
+0 acres: Empyrean Pearl (1/1)
+0 acres: Empyrean Jigglypuff (0/1)
+0 acres: Lockers (1/0)
+0 acres: Empyrean Vyrus Killer (1/0)
+0 acres: Anonymous province from (xx:yy) (2/0)
+0 acres: Empyrean Mizuchi (3/0)
+0 acres: D00Mpyrean (0/1)
+0 acres: Empyrean Big Daddy (0/2)
+0 acres: Empyrean Ceilidh (0/1)
+0 acres: Empyrean Line (0/1)
+0 acres: Empyrean Lab Killer (1/0)
-69 acres: Empyrean Slayer (2/2)
-153 acres: Empyrean Jeff Brezenski (4/15)


The Kingdom of (Undecided)

Total acres exchanged: -192 acres (15/17)
+53 acres: Warm Milk (6/4)
+24 acres: Faery (1/1)
+23 acres: FriedChicken (3/0)
+0 acres: World Government (1/0)
+0 acres: Mustache Ride (1/6)
+0 acres: Shenanigans (1/0)
+0 acres: Golden Night Creature (1/0)
+0 acres: The Forsaken Land (1/1)
-122 acres: Ichi (0/4)
-170 acres: SoD Emerald Phoenix (0/1)







War Summary of Empyreans

For the period of July 1 of YR6 to January 24 of YR7 (48 hours)
-- By UPCF [0.99c] http://www.k3ltic.com/utopia/prince

** Summary **

Total Attacks Made: 140 (12489 acres)
-- Traditional March: 117 (11422 acres)
-- Conquest: 2 (166 acres)
-- Ambush: 12 (901 acres)
-- Massacres: 1 (343 people)
-- Failed Attacks: 8 (5.7% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 117 (9242 acres)
-- Traditional March: 98 (8349 acres)
-- Ambush: 12 (893 acres)
-- Failed Attacks: 7 (6% failure)


The Kingdom of (Empyreans)

Total acres exchanged: +3247 acres (140/117)
+717 acres: Empyrean Mizuchi (6/1)
+654 acres: Critical Empyrean (6/0)
+637 acres: Empyrean Guy (4/1)
+616 acres: Empyrean Pearl (4/0)
+336 acres: Empyrean Lab Killer (11/4)
+328 acres: Empyrean Vyrus Killer (7/2)
+322 acres: D00Mpyrean (10/6)
+264 acres: Empyrean Line (3/1)
+257 acres: Empyrean Big Daddy (3/0)
+235 acres: Empyrean Jigglypuff (5/4)
+226 acres: Empyrean Killer (9/5)
+224 acres: Chubby Ghost (5/1)
+70 acres: Empyrean Wtfmate (11/9)
-18 acres: Empyrean Mumu (1/1)
-61 acres: Empyrean Ceilidh (5/4)
-99 acres: Empyrean Defense (6/6)
-147 acres: Empyrean Jeff Brezenski (20/36)
-301 acres: Killer Khan (5/10)
-372 acres: Lockers (13/9)
-641 acres: Empyrean Slayer (6/17)


The Kingdom of (Undecided)

Total acres exchanged: -3247 acres (117/140)
+470 acres: World Government (5/3)
+295 acres: Anonymous province from (xx:yy) (2/0)
+290 acres: Caledonia (3/0)
+229 acres: TheLastStop (5/3)
+225 acres: kingstown (16/5)
+187 acres: Pro amateur (3/1)
+124 acres: Insomnia (1/0)
+78 acres: iwilltrytomakesense (1/0)
+48 acres: When I Pee (4/3)
+38 acres: _Destroyer_ (2/0)
+18 acres: Mad Flashing Broadsword (5/1)
+0 acres: Vulgar Display (1/0)
-115 acres: FriedChicken (7/4)
-262 acres: Faery (10/9)
-411 acres: Golden Night Creature (6/12)
-490 acres: Warm Milk (16/30)
-492 acres: The Forsaken Land (7/12)
-559 acres: Mustache Ride (2/7)
-716 acres: Ichi (7/8)
-719 acres: Tigerland (3/8)
-1485 acres: Shenanigans (11/34)


Hostile Summary of Undecided
For the period of May 5 of YR6 to June 23 of YR6 (43 hours)
-- By UPCF [0.99c] http://www.k3ltic.com/utopia/prince

** Summary **

Total Attacks Made: 19 (551 acres)
-- Traditional March: 7 (551 acres)
-- Massacres: 8 (7289 people)
-- Learns: 1
-- Plunders: 2
-- Failed Attacks: 1 (5.3% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 32 (1258 acres)
-- Traditional March: 10 (1214 acres)
-- Ambush: 1 (23 acres)
-- Raze: 1 (21 acres)
-- Massacres: 10 (11707 people)
-- Learns: 3
-- Plunders: 3
-- Failed Attacks: 4 (12.5% failure)


The Kingdom of (Undecided)

Total acres exchanged: -707 acres (19/32)
+175 acres: FriedChicken (4/0)
+113 acres: Anonymous province from (xx:yy) (1/0)
+70 acres: iwilltrytomakesense (1/0)
+0 acres: The Forsaken Land (1/1)
+0 acres: World Government (1/0)
+0 acres: Mustache Ride (1/11)
+0 acres: Shenanigans (1/0)
-37 acres: Warm Milk (7/6)
-78 acres: Golden Night Creature (1/2)
-87 acres: TheLastStop (0/1)
-122 acres: Ichi (0/4)
-135 acres: Faery (1/2)
-135 acres: Tigerland (0/2)
-217 acres: Message In Blood (0/1)
-254 acres: SoD Emerald Phoenix (0/2)


The Kingdom of (Empyreans)

Total acres exchanged: +171 acres (17/15)
+292 acres: Empyrean Defense (3/2)
+0 acres: Empyrean Line (0/1)
+0 acres: Empyrean Slayer (2/0)
+0 acres: Empyrean Jigglypuff (0/1)
+0 acres: Empyrean Lab Killer (1/0)
+0 acres: Empyrean Big Daddy (0/2)
+0 acres: Empyrean Vyrus Killer (1/0)
+0 acres: Empyrean Pearl (1/0)
+0 acres: Lockers (1/0)
+0 acres: Empyrean Mizuchi (3/0)
+0 acres: Anonymous province from (xx:yy) (2/0)
-121 acres: Empyrean Jeff Brezenski (3/9)








War Summary of Undecided
For the period of July 1 of YR6 to January 24 of YR7 (48 hours)
-- By UPCF [0.99c] http://www.k3ltic.com/utopia/prince


** Summary **

Total Attacks Made: 117 (10026 acres)
-- Traditional March: 97 (9053 acres)
-- Conquest: 1 (80 acres)
-- Ambush: 12 (893 acres)
-- Failed Attacks: 7 (6% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 140 (11501 acres)
-- Traditional March: 119 (10600 acres)
-- Ambush: 12 (901 acres)
-- Massacres: 1 (343 people)
-- Failed Attacks: 8 (5.7% failure)



The Kingdom of (Undecided)

Total acres exchanged: -1475 acres (117/140)
+528 acres: World Government (5/3)
+324 acres: Anonymous province from (xx:yy) (2/0)
+318 acres: Caledonia (3/0)
+316 acres: kingstown (16/5)
+308 acres: TheLastStop (5/3)
+215 acres: Pro amateur (3/1)
+169 acres: When I Pee (4/3)
+136 acres: Insomnia (1/0)
+85 acres: iwilltrytomakesense (1/0)
+55 acres: Mad Flashing Broadsword (5/1)
+41 acres: _Destroyer_ (2/0)
+0 acres: Vulgar Display (1/0)
-57 acres: FriedChicken (7/4)
-154 acres: Faery (10/9)
-271 acres: Golden Night Creature (6/12)
-338 acres: Warm Milk (16/30)
-357 acres: The Forsaken Land (7/12)
-479 acres: Mustache Ride (2/7)
-537 acres: Ichi (7/8)
-550 acres: Tigerland (3/8)
-1227 acres: Shenanigans (11/34)



The Kingdom of (Empyreans)

Total acres exchanged: +1475 acres (140/117)
+632 acres: Empyrean Mizuchi (6/1)
+597 acres: Critical Empyrean (6/0)
+574 acres: Empyrean Guy (4/1)
+562 acres: Empyrean Pearl (4/0)
+280 acres: Empyrean Vyrus Killer (7/2)
+237 acres: Empyrean Lab Killer (11/4)
+235 acres: Empyrean Big Daddy (3/0)
+231 acres: Empyrean Line (3/1)
+218 acres: D00Mpyrean (10/6)
+167 acres: Chubby Ghost (5/1)
+115 acres: Empyrean Killer (9/5)
+108 acres: Empyrean Jigglypuff (5/4)
-33 acres: Empyrean Wtfmate (11/9)
-45 acres: Empyrean Mumu (1/1)
-143 acres: Empyrean Ceilidh (5/4)
-222 acres: Empyrean Defense (6/6)
-342 acres: Empyrean Jeff Brezenski (20/36)
-377 acres: Killer Khan (5/10)
-531 acres: Lockers (13/9)
-788 acres: Empyrean Slayer (6/17)


CLOSING COMMENTS:

Tina, Empyreans' Monarch:
"The reason Empyrean is on the winning streak we are on is because of each and every player no one player is more important than another. As our banner shows we respect each and every prov that has given Empyrean their all and has made this kd what it is. And I cant wait for next ages rematch with Undecided "

Muddy, Undecided's Monarch:
"I'm looking foward to face another kingdom like the Empyreans who holds a good team spirit and team work and most of all good attitude. Its unfortunate that many times you run into a kingdom with a horrible attitude and it really spoils much of the fun within the game, it was fun to war with these guys even when I lost. We are doing a x-mas cleaning and giving a good old intra x-mas beating and housecleaning now after the loss, it's the holidays and we will be back in stride shortly. Merry x-mas to all of Utopia"

awww its nice to see good wars like this. *sniff*

I see Empyreans come a long way. I am glad that Empyreans have a new monarch that has more strategic prowess. The last time Empyreans was very kind to run a Gnome Rogue bank with no thieves. I am absolutely sure that many Utopians dream is to one day end up in the Empyrean HaLL of Fame with that gobsmacking looking knight in the banner. Definitely a kingdom to watch out for.

Wow we're officially famous now. Errr, or not. :)
We had a few issues with both activity and strategy but thankfully our enemy had more LOL. ^_^

Yay our loss was the christmas news :) good job by some very solid empyrean provinces, across the board they had almost unbreakable theives and wizards, though we mainly were attempting to challenge with thieves....we've learnt alot this age....me especially.

I had too....its mostly my kingdom strat that failed us :)

Activity in terms of uniques wasn't that different, but our economies were halted by ops so there was no way back for us :)

Merry christmas everyone.

Next age....when we decide to try win one again....we'll get it reported, hopefully we'll perform better and have a much mroe interesting war article :D

The article itself seems well written and clear , thanks for the coverage

Congrats on your win. :)
I was in a war with Empyreans at the time Drosta is talking about. The monarch then didnt want to surrender and he was a gnome rogue bank with no thieves.
It was a little funny.Monique took the monarchy after that. When did she leave you all? I know its been a while.

Not sure exactly when we had a Gnome rogue as king, I believe that was over 4 years ago when I rejoined utopia and the kingdom was doing MAJOR house cleaning... I took over as monarch and played Gnome/artisan and Elf/war hero and I think maybe orc in there, but no wars went much past 2 days. That was a few years ago. Brad took over monarch for a short while, and Monz was monarch about 2 years ago. I haven't heard her return to the game. - Empyrean Mizuchi

edit - when I say gnome and elf and orc, I mean over 4-5 ages...

I am not exactly sure when it was. I will try to remember. I will go through my files on my computer. I still have the summary of that war :P

well all kingdoms have their skeletons in the closest, Empyreans fought well, and Undecided put up a decent fight.

Indeed Humle. :)

Friendly warring puts strong cheer in my heart! :-) You folk are exemplary Utopians, and more important to me than the people in the Hall of Fame. :-)

Congrats on the WW Empyreans. I hope that we have a chance to tango sometime this age; it's been too long. :)

Tina doin work

/me pets tina & humle

Nice Job Empyreans.

We are getting better every age.:)

@ Criticalmaster:

we have a player in our KD from Portland,OR... and he's the most amazing utopia player. What is in the water up there that breeds such good utopia pros???

Cool article.

Nice one Empyrean!!! I'm very glad to see u all growed so fast!!! I'm ex empyrean but don't think anyone there remember me~ Tina a.k.a Anit congratz for the war won~ hope that we both kd will meet up someday~ incase anyone remember I'm Andy but of cos not the Andy in the hall of fame~

It was indeed a good war. And Andy if you are the Andy I am thinking of I do remember you :)

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Originally Posted by AniTinA

It was indeed a good war. And Andy if you are the Andy I am thinking of I do remember you :)

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Awwwww Anit you really make my day~ I'm so happy that someone still remember me as I not much contribute to Empyreans for the 2 ages I was there ):

And at last I left due to friend invited me to join him~ I'll keep follow where's Empyreans and hope someday we both kd can have a good war.

Anyway good luck to Empyreans and send my regards to anyone who still remember me and Brad a.k.a Big Daddy!!!

Congrats on your ghetto win! Nice to see the war reports at the lower levels, even if some of the players put in lackluster efforts. Good job sillies!

I had to laugh at this..

"Undecided, having troubles of their own had one of their provinces deleted just as war started. According to Muddy, Undecided's monarch, the province in question was a problematic player who lacks teamwork and he had expected him to leave at a moment's notice, but not just as war was declared."

That is clearly me, and the reason I left was because of poor leadership. I led the kingdom in uniques and acre gains in nearly every war so far this age(all but the first). When I tried to tell our other UD's that they needed to have defense Muddy said it was ok for them to have 0 defense. I tried to teach the apparently beginner players a proper strategy for an attacker.

In the previous war he threatened pyrAAtes that he was going to call in allies against them and went on a tirade threatening them in the war forum after we were clearly defeated.

If you are reading this Muddy then let me know why you asked if I was interested in taking over the monarchy in the future if I am a "problematic player who lacks teamwork"? I was perfectly content to stay in your kingdom until the last war and the fact that provinces were encouraged to play with 0 defense.

If it's any condolence, you caused us some coordination troubles as you were to be our first chain target.

Good to see Empyreans coming back a bit, keep up the good work and hope to see you further up the charts.

Any player defecting from a kd that is going to war and that player that defects knows there KD is going to war.is a totally frigin idiot.Personally if i were monarch and that happens,you would be hunted down and plowed hard.

Yeah, it is really really annoying when it happens. Most kingdoms experience it at one point or another until they are established then it happens a lot less.

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Originally Posted by Criticalmaster

Any player defecting from a kd that is going to war and that player that defects knows there KD is going to war.is a totally frigin idiot.Personally if i were monarch and that happens,you would be hunted down and plowed hard.

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There was no defecting... deleted. Would it have been better to go VM then delete after holidays? Seems the same to me.

He brought it upon himself by acting childish and leading the kd to repeated failure without correcting any issues. I was perfectly content to stay there and help the new players but I was told not to. Clearly I wasn't the only one with an issue.

What was the purpose or reason the Undecided had undead with nearly 0 def after an attack?

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Originally Posted by Rockie Cantais

What was the purpose or reason the Undecided had undead with nearly 0 def after an attack?

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They are being told it's an acceptable strategy..

When any T/M can quad tap you it's a problem.

let me jsut point out that pestilience is missing an understanding on several parts of what he is talking about. Muddy is a fine leader but being an ex-monarch myself its no fun having someone moan at you all the time about things they don't even understand fully. monarch snap at people when they r being annoying, you have to learn to let monarchs do that as they have a hard job and vent occasionally. zero defense was a personal choice by a very small undead which others suggested against but we let the guy try it because he was sure he wanted to, he learnt quickly it was too little, we like to give people a bit of freedom. We also have some limits as all kingdoms do.

Just didn;t want there to only be one point of view here

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As for the attacker with most uniques, thats been either me or one other person in the kingdom all age, not you

sounds like empyreans have improved. We have had multiple encounters with them in previous ages.

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Originally Posted by TitanReborn

let me jsut point out that pestilience is missing an understanding on several parts of what he is talking about. Muddy is a fine leader but being an ex-monarch myself its no fun having someone moan at you all the time about things they don't even understand fully. monarch snap at people when they r being annoying, you have to learn to let monarchs do that as they have a hard job and vent occasionally. zero defense was a personal choice by a very small undead which others suggested against but we let the guy try it because he was sure he wanted to, he learnt quickly it was too little, we like to give people a bit of freedom. We also have some limits as all kingdoms do.

Just didn;t want there to only be one point of view here

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As for the attacker with most uniques, thats been either me or one other person in the kingdom all age, not you

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Difference of opinion I guess, I personally don't think it's ok for a monarch to throw temper tantrums. Especially in the war forum for other kingdoms to see.

Perhaps you should go check the logs again, bane beat me in war #1 but that was it.

If iot was a temper tantrum then that'd be fine, but you;d be asked to stop all the pointless hassle you were giving him and you didn;t, i was more than happy for players like that to get shouted at after a while....when i was monarch of the kingdom i woulda shouted alot earlier, and no-one ever told me i was a bad monarch, they accepted it because they understood i was monarch for a bloomin' reason. you disagree with him you post in forums you would like a vote on change of leadership, you didn't and it wouldn't have mattered if you did. So yeah was best for you to leave, however as posted earlier, do it at a war start and your a bit of a not so ncie person (look at me watching my language)

I also don;t ened to check the logs as I am aware of myself topping the uniques per war, only reason you had extras were bad unqiue formatters counting every ambush you did seeing as 11 uniques in a min time war just won't happen. I am not saying you didn;t do well, but i am only defending the point made about lack of team playerness, i was more than happy with your performance until i heard more about what had gone on behind the scenes with muddy, lack the team spirit we required for our kingdom I guess.

I'm sure you have the right attitude for some kingdoms though so I'm sure you have already found yourself somewhere you enjoy so in the end best for everyone eh

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If iot was a temper tantrum then that'd be fine, but you;d be asked to stop all the pointless hassle you were giving him and you didn;t, i was more than happy for players like that to get shouted at after a while....when i was monarch of the kingdom i woulda shouted alot earlier, and no-one ever told me i was a bad monarch, they accepted it because they understood i was monarch for a bloomin' reason. you disagree with him you post in forums you would like a vote on change of leadership, you didn't and it wouldn't have mattered if you did. So yeah was best for you to leave, however as posted earlier, do it at a war start and your a bit of a not so ncie person (look at me watching my language)

I also don;t ened to check the logs as I am aware of myself topping the uniques per war, only reason you had extras were bad unqiue formatters counting every ambush you did seeing as 11 uniques in a min time war just won't happen. I am not saying you didn;t do well, but i am only defending the point made about lack of team playerness, i was more than happy with your performance until i heard more about what had gone on behind the scenes with muddy, lack the team spirit we required for our kingdom I guess.

I'm sure you have the right attitude for some kingdoms though so I'm sure you have already found yourself somewhere you enjoy so in the end best for everyone eh

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That wasn't in a min time war, I seem to recall the war going on for quite awhile. Ambushes definitely don't trigger a unique and I rarely ambush anyways. That's besides the point though. I had 3 options at the start of my holidays: vacation mode, let them feed on me, or delete.

I'm actually genuinely curious what you are referring to now about what went on behind the scenes? I don't think I ever hassled anyone aside from the UD who had 0 defense, and I wasn't alone in that criticism. I didn't talk to Muddy much aside from a few in game messages where he asked if I was interested in monarchy in the future, which I politely declined. Perhaps he just made something up and told you because I honestly can't think of anything he or I might have said. The only reason I posted here to begin with is because I felt I was being unfairly bashed on. I had no hard feelings aside from that.

You identity was uncovered by yourself, no-one had any opinions formed on you apart from within our own kingdom until you stepped up and started defending yourself (up until that point no-one woulda had any clue it was you or maybe even who you were)

And ambushes definately count as uniques when they are far enough away from your main hits, our current war bane has 7 uniques but i count it as 6 because ones an ambush - I don;t cause all my ambushes are near enough to my other attacks

and just forget behind the scenes stuff its not important

I love the uniques discussion.

From what I see is there are 2 decent war formatters out there.

Eus' formatter
http://www.home-world.org/utopia/formatter/

In it is says" UNIQUES are calcualted as "attacks per hour", meaning that all attacks in single hour ar count as one unique. If you have two attacks this hour and two attacks the next, that would be two uniques. "

I like how this works, as if you are active, and ambush every 4 hours with extra generals, they should count as separate uniques, as what is a unique for? To me it is used to determine activity. If you are active enough to hit every 4 hours or so, you should get credit for it.
I also like how Eus' does province news as well.

The other is Prince from Angelus
http://www.k3ltic.com/utopia/prince/

Which from testing I have seen, it shows that uniques are calced as different hits 7 hours apart. Ambushes inside of 7 hrs, count as the same unique.

Just sharing what I have seen, as I really dont have any dog in this fight.

Meh I'm actually trying really hard not to fight so sorry if its comign off as that.

My long term definition of a unique is one full armies worth of attacks, onyl main hits would therefore count, showing your activity levels, you then compare that with total attacks made.

There you have activity, and how successful you are at causing damage to enemies or limiting your own.

Each to their own in terms of how you like to think of them i guess.


Just finished our next war (a win I'm proud to say) and I was at 6 uniques, at 58 hours, counting ambushes the way lmtd prefers I'd be at 9 uniques, had I not ambushed tho i would still have been just as active so I guess for people like me who sometimes jsut don;t log off, it just doesn;t quite make the sense to me in terms of it gauging activity anymore.

I suppose its jsut more complicated than it needs to be in terms of needlessly exaggerated numbers imo.

Thanks for explaining the other formatter form me though I only use prince (and mostly i let someone else do it), so you have given me a better udnerstanding of certain reports now :)

Empyreans deserved the war win without a doubt, we got bashed badly and we would have lost too them in any case this age i am quite positive.
Im sure we all left the war feeling pleased with it.
I hope too see you guys again some other age.


@Pestilence
I dont really understand what you are trying to achieve with your ranting and slander but its good that you wanna name yourself and show the world why you didint fit in. If i had any respect at all for you before the posts, it sure would be gone now.
I got no idea how'd you managed too imagine half of the things you post here nor do i care.
If i wanted to waste more time with you i would give you a "bash" that you would deserve and spend a couple of hours of my life wrighting the "why".
And about the "uniques part" i will actually bother myself a moment too post, In 1 war you was on a shared leading position with 3 other players during the moment some of our better attackers was in vac mode, Really feel that proud about it? you where at the very best moment only mediocre
But honestly you wasted enough of my time, just tell everyone that you wanted to be in the "news" aswell and be noticed as you somehow still think very highly of yourself... nvm no need to tell anyone, your posts so far shows all there is to you for anyone who can think for a moment, feel free to keep contradict yourself.
You left the kingdom and im happy you did, now stay out of it... You wasted enough of my time and you really didint even deserve the moment i wasted wrighting this post and i wont bother giving you any more of my moments.
Bye

Oh gosh, silly me. You're correct, I just decided to make a bunch of stuff up!

Take it to PM guys

Might as well be to jsut close this thread now i don;t think theres any real discussion to be had on this article anyway