It's become public knowledge that Game Administration (1:1) are messaging provinces telling them not to attack certain kingdoms 'or else'. Is it just me or is this deeply concerning?
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It's become public knowledge that Game Administration (1:1) are messaging provinces telling them not to attack certain kingdoms 'or else'. Is it just me or is this deeply concerning?
I have from reliable sources that thejudge is playing 2 full kingdoms on his own.
As much as its fun to throw mud at ZAWK, there must be solid proof!
Game Date
June 11 of YR0
Real Date
Tue, 30 Jul at 04:38 GMT+00:00
Sender
Lady Sarah of Sassy Wolfie (1:1)
Hello,
We know who you are. Do not attack X:XX. You will not be warned again.
- Sassy Wolfie
Who are we targeting? They can't warn all of us!
Oddly they destroyed the province after another attack was launched. I consider this one of the perks of a reduced 24 hour protection period!
You are welcome to play if you follow the rules. Griefing is against the rules.
At what point does retaliation become griefing exactly? Please teach us! Here is some sand to draw your lines in. Please beware of the lizards:
https://i.giphy.com/media/na3S8zuyFQ3OE/giphy.gif
I really cannot stress this enough about the lizards.
If an admin has to message you and tell you to stop, consider yourself right on the line.
That's hardly an answer. You can't have subjective rules like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassy_Wolfie
Game Administration mail ordering not to attack specific kingdoms seems in contradiction to the game itself. Should moderators dictate who you can and can't attack which is what has occurred in this instance?
It would certainly be a unwelcome contradiction in Utopia. I've come to look at the game in the same light as the other past clones though. This is a different game based on Utopia and she deserves a new name. In this thread, we will now offer new names for this new game to help ol' David out.
Friendscape
Shareville
I have from credible sources that thejudge isn't telling quite the whole story. Not that it will would make admins behaviour less ****ty.
Holy **** what in the absolute ****
I am bit surprised by Steels lack of reaction.
What kd is it? I have to know to avoid the possible griefing
One province was messaged, you. Stop creating multies.
For what it's worth I do not agree with the messaging, I would have just IP banned you.
I reacted on discord.
Davidc ignored the issue of course
Who is to hold administrator Sassie Wolf accountable for crimes against the community? In an ideal world Bishop will IP ban them!
Griefing? That's not how it works with attacking. Unless it's a verified multi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassy_Wolfie
What if the admin has no clue that ingame is self-policing except when fake warring/multis are involved?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassy_Wolfie
Game PlayQuote:
Originally Posted by Sassy_Wolfie
Under no circumstances may you use automation software, hacks, mods, scripts or any unauthorized third-party tools designed to improve your performance in Utopia.
Spirit of the Rules
Players attempting to manipulate rules and quirks of the game in ways obviously not intended may be subject to deletion. Because of their nature, these types of circumstances are considered on a case-by-case basis. Users should avoid actions they believe are against the spirit and intent of the game.
Fair & Honorable Play
The operators of the game aim to maintain the highest standards of ethics within the game. Any instance of inappropriate language, manipulation of bugs, or acts of deception/fraud can result in immediate removal from the game. We rely on our users to help us enforce these rules and provide an enjoyable gaming environment for users of all ages and backgrounds.
grief (redirected from Griefing)
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grief (grēf)
n.
1.
a. Deep mental anguish, as that arising from bereavement, or an instance of this. See Synonyms at regret.
b. A source or cause of deep mental anguish: "That knowledge would be a grief to her" (Tobias Wolff).
2.
a. Annoyance or frustration, or an instance of this: Trying to follow their directions was nothing but grief.
b. Trouble or difficulty, or an instance of this: the griefs of trying to meet a deadline.
c. Informal Criticism or rude talk: gave me a lot of grief about being late.
Utopia Rules do not mention griefing. There is the dictionary's definition so you are well informed...
I suffered deep mental anguish when I was bereaved of my 2b gc while keeping my head down and being careful not to break any rules. Nobody punished David for griefing or even bothered to send him a warning.
Grief isn't against the rules. Grief is the rules.
So someone multied, and instead of a deletion for cheating they got a warning not to grief.
Will this new change in the rules be formalized DavidC and/or JeffT?
Or did your favorite admin neglect her responsibility to action cheaters and yours just gonna let that slide, and ignore the precedent it sets?
Nah, he got deleted made a new account and started griefing the ones that reported him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
So the warning was frivolous and unwarranted?
Correct but seems it's the plan in retaining new players. They are discouraged when someone grief them so you make the offending provs stop and maybe the recieving province stick arou d rather than quit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Nothing I agree with though.
Haven't we already seen this episode last year? Admin really has no business in stepping in to protect 'new players' ingame. Where's my protection when someone interferes with my ingame plans for the luls?Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Well you could argue the situation is different in this case cause they are being griefed for doing what is perceived correct. In this case reporting a cheater shouldn't result in someone harassing you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avenger
is it really against the rules if you get deleted but not perma banned to create a new province provided that you now follow the rules, even if you are out to start things with your new province? It would usually be you vs the kingdom that you are trying to harass and the kingdom you landed in that want none of this and might remove you themself.
The kingdom wide razing of another kingdom can be countered quite easily by forcing cf, it is quite a lot to have to wait 1 week and get insta cf'ed if you continue. If it is a big problem that single provinces tries to do this slap a 7 day ban instead of 24 hour cooldown on anyone getting deleted for violations, that way you don't need to force ip ban.
People have always traditionally been harassed for reporting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
It's been brought to my attention that the same game administrator has just inserted a province into war with only a 24 for our protection period while the opposition provinces in war are experiencing a 72 hour protection period for new provinces. Is there an explanation for this? The beneficiary in this case was One Unit.
Chicks stick together?Quote:
Originally Posted by thejudge
Restore Utopia to its formal glory; remove all forced munk integration; stop promoting discord which is essentially malware.
How is discord malware?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MalwareQuote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Pretty much anything to do with Google is in some manner like Malware; if not just undisputedly so. We've seen what kind malware like adds that come through if you don't block the adds too; so in many ways I should say just stop pushing all the malware like things,the adds, the munk bot bs, and of course the already mentioned discord.
Go ahead, block google, see if you can survive on the internet.
Ads are basically auto-blocked by default on Opera. Try it.
Munkbot does need some bugfixes.
Can easily block google and survive on the internet. Plenty of people have custom refuse to resolve google rules on the network level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avenger
I guess admins forgot some people don't use gmail as their primary gaming email account.
it takes 5 attempts (page reloads) just to be fast enough to click the login button so it can used a saved password before google's auto-login feature kicks in
You never answered how Discord is malware