Pew Pew vs AMA

[American Badass]

AB was kicked from Simians but you wont see me comment it :P
Pyro was mention several times and im just give them Credits.
EJ, no idea why ppl talk for them now.
Havoc/CR: We are not ally.

Proteus was kicked from Rage but you wont see me comment it :P
EJ was mention several times and im just give them Credits.
Pyro, no idea why ppl talk for them now.
Rage/AMA: We are not ally.

[Proteus]

Proteus was kicked from Rage but you wont see me comment it :P
EJ was mention several times and im just give them Credits.
Pyro, no idea why ppl talk for them now.
Rage/AMA: We are not ally.

Please find someone to confirm that I was "kicked" from my own kd rather than quitting lol.

[Proteus]

We might not have been the best allies working together last age but I do think ED deserves some respect. It was their first age if I didnt remember wrongly (just got back last age) and they have had a respectable team assembled. Part of why people keep bashing them is mostly because everyone is expecting so much from such a solid team and when they fail to deliver at times, people ain't ready to give them any chance.

Despite what many people say about HoH, they're one of the few KDs that had the most top finishes all these ages I believe and I think that is something noteworthy regardless of whatever anyone else thinks. I do admit that HoH was probably stronger under the leadership of ravenant and their old crew though.

As for Legacy, you might be right that they ain't a top kd but I do believe many in the warring-tier would agree they are a pretty sound warring KD and beating them from a massively disadvantaged position is something I wouldn't just dismiss and scoff at. Pyro played remarkably against them and won by a huge margin despite the odds being stacked against their favor.

Lastly, what Drixx heen saying is a sentiment I share as well. Simians did double hostile them and should rightfully make up for it by returning the acres. Am pretty sure 2k acres wouldn't magically ensure Pyro stays in the top. If they do stay up there, it is largely because of their own merit. I know Anri doesn't share the same opinion as I and Drixx does as he felt that Pyro had unfairly used privileged intel shared by a certain player to dodged them. I've explained that this absolutely wasn't the case and as much as am willing to attest to this, I don't think Anri's opinion is going to change much and I do somewhat understand from his perspective. This is also why we've made it clear to Pyro's leaders that no one should condone using privileged and sensitive intel obtained under shady circumstances against any kingdom and I do think that Pyro currently share the same belief as we do.

That being said, i don't think any party is harping over the 2k acres anymore so there really isn't a point to bring it up again.

What are you smoking. First of all two of hohs crowns are complete jokes same way swea and jerks crowns are. Simians deliberately farmed out to hoh and few ages later bb was > 100k smaller than hoh and maxed meter last week of age to shape charts. Anytime they fought anyone good (flogger kds for instance) they were beaten badly and charted horribly.

Ed was a pure ghetto last age, they vultured ama after 9 whole days of conflict where ama needed 8 provs explored back up and they failed horribly and spend remaining of age in arranged wars with pewpew running from ama.

Again what are you smoking?

[Korp]

Please find someone to confirm that I was "kicked" from my own kd rather than quitting lol.

Your own kd? lol you just took ?ver after people got tired to lead. It was and will always be Zoot and ASF kd.

[Proteus]

Your own kd? lol you just took ?ver after people got tired to lead. It was and will always be Zoot and ASF kd.

Ok so if ASF transitioned the kd to me it didnt count because korp says so, good to know brotha.

[Persain]

Your own kd? lol you just took ?ver after people got tired to lead. It was and will always be Zoot and ASF kd.

To be fair though he WAS the leader even if it wasn't really his kd. The age my kd went big i was talking with both ASF and Proteus at a few points during the age and what ASF made it clear Proteus got final say on all kd matters

[PhoenixScorpion]

AMA could have totally beaten Havoc or Rage or Pyro once they went OOW. Nice move from Pewpew on trolling AMA into turtling in fort. That is how you treat your allies, not let them be food for the enemy. Good job on Pewpew on that. AMA is not a good ally at all. They leave BB to be fed upon, they left Simians to be fed upon 2 ages ago. They pretty much screw their allies over.

You should share whatever it is your smoking.

[Sheister]

p k3

[Korp]

Ok so if ASF transitioned the kd to me it didnt count because korp says so, good to know brotha.

You're were neither the creator or co-founder of the kingdon so its not your "own" kingdom. I think that is pretty obvious, to me at least. You're just some hack that swoop in later and take all the benefits from a solid kingdom and history.

To be fair though he WAS the leader even if it wasn't really his kd. The age my kd went big i was talking with both ASF and Proteus at a few points during the age and what ASF made it clear Proteus got final say on all kd matters

Obviously he was a leader but I am off the firm belief that to call it your own kingdom you have to be one of the creators of it. Which he is not. I guess its all semantics ;)

[PhoenixScorpion]

You're were neither the creator or co-founder of the kingdon so its not your "own" kingdom. I think that is pretty obvious, to me at least. You're just some hack that swoop in later and take all the benefits from a solid kingdom and history.



Obviously he was a leader but I am off the firm belief that to call it your own kingdom you have to be one of the creators of it. Which he is not. I guess its all semantics ;)

Sounds link goodz and Nick_mi. LMAO

[Persain]

btw i know this is off topic but untill pewpew and AMA do some smash smash i feel like defending Proteus.

Obviously he was a leader but I am off the firm belief that to call it your own kingdom you have to be one of the creators of it. Which he is not. I guess its all semantics ;)

He was THE leader, i think thats a distinctive point to make. Because there is a difference between who gets final say and whose say gets herd. As for him calling it his kd i think its fair. For example I'm neither the founder nor even an original member of my kd but its the kd i call home and identify with. I just wouldn't go as far as to credit the success they had as due to him alone, you can be the "leader" of a great kd and still suck at the game your just smart enough to execute the plans laid forth by better players.

PewPew is a good example of that, Petrified left but the Insolence->PewPew (Having absorbed some of Mansoors players from snakes) legacy doesn't instantly go away.

[Proteus]

btw i know this is off topic but untill pewpew and AMA do some smash smash i feel like defending Proteus.
He was THE leader, i think thats a distinctive point to make. Because there is a difference between who gets final say and whose say gets herd. As for him calling it his kd i think its fair. For example I'm neither the founder nor even an original member of my kd but its the kd i call home and identify with. I just wouldn't go as far as to credit the success they had as due to him alone, you can be the "leader" of a great kd and still suck at the game your just smart enough to execute the plans laid forth by better players.

PewPew is a good example of that, Petrified left but the Insolence->PewPew (Having absorbed some of Mansoors players from snakes) legacy doesn't instantly go away.

Thanks for the objectivity this is rare in the game this day and age especially in forum politics. People say so much stupid stuff online, lately I've been accused by another "top kingdom leader" of paying the kingdom we warred OOP and roughnecks to war us. I've been also accused of being an abusive husband even though no one here knows me or my wife in real life and this was coming from a PhD candidate. Just goes to show how retarded people can get.

Also for the record i never claimed to be the best and named plenty of people who I thought were better kd leaders, I just said who I think is not good which was based on interactions with said persons' kingdoms or playing with said persons.

As for how pewpew plays this game its retarded because they manage to ****play every age and it impacts the rest of the community. To recap a bit they started off by deal breaking rage when ASF and I agreed to cf them in exchange for warring us (they deleted themselves after they saw we would farm them), then they proceeded to intentionally farm out to two kingdoms in two separate ages (in worse fashion than simians did). Persian I am sure you could recall there was one age where pewpew told you you weren't allowed to do anything but fight them b2b2b because they were so butthurt ablut losing to divinity. They then hit your cows into real war because you did massive networth drop to war a ghetto. This age they claim you can call dibs on a kingdom by starting dragon and tagging "vs ama" yet not giving button and only making 2 hits a few hours later. I don't see how allowing tho play in the top is good for anyone. If abs was still around and I was still running rage I would have easily policed this but no one really cares about this type of impaxt on the game, ages ago this type of play would not be tolerated by anyone. The last part i dont know why they are so cocky and full of themsbes because they haven't even done well (in terms of being able to beat really good kds - they lost to them and didnt chart in land or nw).

[King_Viking]

U guys just fight about allies and nonsense. FIRST ONLY p****** need allies. This game is about 25 on 25 not 200 vs 50. You guys are afraid of competition so u weed out as many kds from whooping on u so u can grow bigger then 90% of the server so u can bully kds. Binar u definitely did atleast 1 fake war last age as we shared the island with u. U exchanged land for science ur kd should've been deleted for that ur only real ww came from simians(who were pressured by waves and bored of ur trash talking so they gave in) TOO MANY CFS GO ON IN THIS GAME that's the reason this game slowly died out. GROWN MEN CRYING and 100 alliances trying to save u so u can simply win. Everyone with the utter need to feel accomplished with there life by crowning. WINNING IN UTOPIA DOESNT GIVE U ANY BENEFIT IN UR REAL LIFE. If ur gonna war PLEASE AMA AND PEW WAR AND STFU. AND PLEASE ELIT AND BINAR KICK EACH OTHERS FACES IN. IN THE END WAR SEND CF BE BEST OF BUDDIES AND BE BOTTOM FEEDERS. AMA IS GONNA WHOOP U ANYWAYS SO SAVE THE TRASH TALKING BINAR UR KD IS MEDIOCRE like MINE YET we don't cry nor call for cfs and allies and most of all FAKE WARS. U RAN 21 avians not many kds last age could even come close to a kd like that minus that fw and u would've had a lot more losses then u had. Don't use utopia to compensate for something u all lack in RL

[Korp]

He was THE leader, i think thats a distinctive point to make. Because there is a difference between who gets final say and whose say gets herd. As for him calling it his kd i think its fair. For example I'm neither the founder nor even an original member of my kd but its the kd i call home and identify with. I just wouldn't go as far as to credit the success they had as due to him alone, you can be the "leader" of a great kd and still suck at the game your just smart enough to execute the plans laid forth by better players.

But he didnt call it his kd, thats perfectly fine as I pointed out in my previous post it was mostly about semantics. He said his "own" kd implying that he was some kind of part in the creation of said kd. Oh if you knew Proteus you wouldnt defend him, hes a obnoxious player with a huge ego. Even pre-Rage it just got worse after that.

Just goes to show how retarded people can get.

I like this one "Do you even have a degree!?" In a utopia discussion, do we remember who it was? ;) Hm, wonder if i can dig up the logs. FOUND THEM!

[22:49] <Proteus> do you even have an advanced degree>?'

[22:50] <Proteus> no im not a [censored but its something to do with homosexuals] like you

[22:50] <Proteus> living in a 3rd world country

[Crazy Pete]

Degree's are over rated.

I have a 2 year diploma for Building Technology, yet I am the manager at the Architect office I work at. I have 3 guys who did 7 years schooling MAIBC and many years of experience and yet I'm the boss of them. I have 10 years construction and have my red seal/certified journeyman which probably is the reason why, real life vs book life.

Anyways, I think people put too much into degree's, it's about the money you make, which doesn't always reflect on a person's education.