Pew Pew vs AMA

[PhoenixScorpion]

1. Interfering with EOW cf under any circumstance is perceived lame by the community. Obviously anyone "can" do anything they want including 2v1, farmear, dealbreak, etc. but its unamious that its not ok to interfere with eow cf same way its not ok to 2v1 someone. If you think its ok then are you ok with whatever kingdom you play to be robbed into eow cf as well?

2. Elit never "claimed " someone with a thread in the form where it implied "You cant hit anyone else or we will hit you anyways. Pewpew acted as if we were HOSTILE with them just because they made a thread/started dragon project yet there were no hostilities and AMA could have waved any kingdom they chosen to when they came out of EOW ready rather than waiting 4 days for pewpew to be ready because they messed up pump...only reason AMA did not because they did not want to get 2v1ed unprovoked.

3. How did we interfere with a 1v1 of "one of your members.:" Simians waved Pyro who was waving Legacy. Pyro was hitting Legacy and ignored Simians, we hit Simians as they were ignored by Pyro and hit into an active hostile. Hitting in Simians in no way interferes with Pyro. Furthermore, there was proof here how simians logs/channel/bot was leaked by overmitt which your ally exploited to begin hitting simias *AFTER* AMA has already hit simians. You were planning having either rage or pewpew wave AMA into *ACTIVE* hostile with Simians even though Simians had hit 120 pts on meter. Active retal war vs kd when meter is at 150-125 is not same as waving a kingdom who doubled someone and got no retals back.

You did do a good pump last age and would have won a min-time war and gained ~30k + WW under *normal circumstances* when your opponent acts rationally. Pewpew did not act rationally, they chose to farm out to you to interfere charts and try to make you big enough to beat AMA. There were logs from their monarch petrified confirming this and pasted in forums, perhaps use search function and find them. When soemone is farming out to you and you do nothing about it, you are a PARTICIPANT. Its unfair to anyone who plays the game fairly. If pewpew did TMs back for land and WD min-time as a normal kingdom would when losing you would never end #2 NW, you would end #4-5 land and #3-5 NW.

4. Yes I claim AMA is the best kingdom on the server because AMA was the #1 crown contender the past 3-4 ages since coming back to the game.

Age 57 AMA farmed Sanc & got free land from Rage and was pretty much #1 until Havoc doubled them with Sanc. Age 58 AMA was #1 majority of time time and would gangbanged by 3 kingdoms and pewpew deliberately farmed out to SWEA and was suspended for it by admins. Age 59 AMA won NW crown and was #1 land majority of age after which Jerks got shady war with a kingdom much smaller than WD few hours before eoa to shape charts (lots of irc logs here).

So if AMA hasn't been the best performing kingdom of late who has then?

5. ". Basically no matter what someone does you will put them down and talk ****. Pew Pew warred you clean and your still in here showing you have no class or tact. Really, get real."

First of all pewpew robbed our gold into eow cf, that is not clean.
Pewpew also accused us of running from them, talked massive ****, started this thread and "claimed" us from looking for other conflicts in the 3-4 days we had to wait for them to prepare. That is not playing clean, that is ****playing while talking **** and they got what they deserved.

I understand you fell big now when you sat OOW and pumped the whole age and made cows while we have been in 3 B2B wars all age, including one with your allies just now and you are getting ready to vulture us. Oh wait but its not vulturing when you hit someone after eow cf, except when I was leading old Rage, the whole kingdom including your leader now thought it was vulturing when we received 72h noticed after we just finished warring BB. Good luck on the propaganda, I personally don't care what you do as long as you don't QQ when you get vultured in future and cry foul.

Proteus your KD AMA has vultured Rage constantly how many Ages now, not claiming it is even vulturing? Basically AMA has vultured Rage after every war we had when we ran heavy human and Sages. It is really hard to even respond to you because you just go along constantly making up your own versions of reality. I could quote all of you all last Age in diplo threatening to B2B2B us as an ALLIANCE, not 1 vs 1. This was in spite of the fact that the only thing we even cared about is that YOU WOULD NOT HONOR YOUR DEALS. NOT THAT VULTURING IS BAD. We actually had no problem fighting you and expected to one after another. Too bad you dont see the difference between the two. Rest of your post is just you repeating yourself ad infinum again. One day I guess you will realize that no matter how much you repeat something that isnt relevant and seems to be like your canned response for everything, it isnt going to make people care any more than they do now. You missed the entire point of why it is a disservice to you.

Your arguments are very poor. You arbitrarily create definitions, rules, and play semantics. The fact you wont even acknowledge or accept reality then it is actually quite hard to explain, debate, or discuss anything with you. You are so prideful and arrogant and dont listen to anyone.

[Crazy Pete]

Good age lots of wars, could turn out to be epic!

Farming a 3 kingdom alliance one after another, the odds aren't in our favor and who knows what will happen. I assume Pyro are out to get us (can't speak for Pyro)......but I will have some fun in the process, and won't loose any sleep worrying about either 3 kingdoms.

[Anri]

I created beefs with most kds cause its fun. But i can say with Rage there is none. I still have one major concern regarding Rage and its the fact what allies they choosen for this age. Imo its attempt at powerplaying and one of the kds traded land for science with Rage last age. From what i could tell thier t/ms wad left more or less intact and no hits was made to take honor from them. (it had major impact on honor race, pew was left OP in perfect range to take out my kd from honor crown). I can see why many would get suspicious and this age hardly makes it look better. There is also our bot info that leaked and was used by your pact. I dont even need to say what i think about that. Then we have the other allied kd. Pyromaniacs that is this age joke in the top imo. That they got this far amazes me. You certainly picked allies that makes me and others raise an eyebrown. Needless to say, i am not a fan of ama. But kds like mine got stuck inbetween your terrible tries to powerplay the top this age. Your judgement must been all time low when picking allies. I still will let that slip under the table because after all preaching from Rage about honorable play i do have faith in Rage and its leaders. But there wont be many more straws to grasp after before its to much. Most can see thru the BS in the top. Unless they both blind and deff...

Enjoy

[PhoenixScorpion]

I created beefs with most kds cause its fun. But i can say with Rage there is none. I still have one major concern regarding Rage and its the fact what allies they choosen for this age. Imo its attempt at powerplaying and one of the kds traded land for science with Rage last age. From what i could tell thier t/ms wad left more or less intact and no hits was made to take honor from them. (it had major impact on honor race, pew was left OP in perfect range to take out my kd from honor crown). I can see why many would get suspicious and this age hardly makes it look better. There is also our bot info that leaked and was used by your pact. I dont even need to say what i think about that. Then we have the other allied kd. Pyromaniacs that is this age joke in the top imo. That they got this far amazes me. You certainly picked allies that makes me and others raise an eyebrown. Needless to say, i am not a fan of ama. But kds like mine got stuck inbetween your terrible tries to powerplay the top this age. Your judgement must been all time low when picking allies. I still will let that slip under the table because after all preaching from Rage about honorable play i do have faith in Rage and its leaders. But there wont be many more straws to grasp after before its to much. Most can see thru the BS in the top. Unless they both blind and deff...

Enjoy

Valid points. We really don't care anymore what people think about last Age though, no one has any evidence or even logical arguments just alot of assumption and implications. Us allying with Pew Pew wasn't even discussed until after Age. The whole thing that initiated us even becoming friends was the blow-back and power-play that happened after we warred them. They know we more than paid for the land and had no control over how they chose to fight. To understand why we took actions we did should probably read the sequence of posts from start of conflict up until end of war.

I by no means claim that Rage is perfect or never makes mistakes. I do think that Rage, in spite of the constant BS we are thrown into middle of, plays quite fair with even KD's who have not exactly been the same towards us. We like anyone though sometime just get fed up, pissed, and wanna FSU. Can you really blame anyone for feeling like that or expressing that frustration, especially in private, when the game has become just a bunch of lameplay BS?

[Anri]

Valid points. We really don't care anymore what people think about last Age though, no one has any evidence or even logical arguments just alot of assumption and implications. Us allying with Pew Pew wasn't even discussed until after Age. The whole thing that initiated us even becoming friends was the blow-back and power-play that happened after we warred them. They know we more than paid for the land and had no control over how they chose to fight. To understand why we took actions we did should probably read the sequence of posts from start of conflict up until end of war.

I by no means claim that Rage is perfect or never makes mistakes. I do think that Rage, in spite of the constant BS we are thrown into middle of, plays quite fair with even KD's who have not exactly been the same towards us. We like anyone though sometime just get fed up, pissed, and wanna FSU. Can you really blame anyone for feeling like that or expressing that frustration, especially in private, when the game has become just a bunch of lameplay BS?

I understand. I just feel judgement is/was very clouded when you pick pewpew for allies after the ages they had. Cant claim superioty and a honorable GG feeling when siding with Pewpew. You better off alone. Fact is everyone is better of alone to make the top more competetive. You dont need them. They make Rage look bad imo.

[Binar]

wait a second....
What have I done?

[Ezzerland]

2. Elit never "claimed " someone with a thread in the form where it implied "You cant hit anyone else or we will hit you anyways. Pewpew acted as if we were HOSTILE with them just because they made a thread/started dragon project yet there were no hostilities and AMA could have waved any kingdom they chosen to when they came out of EOW ready rather than waiting 4 days for pewpew to be ready because they messed up pump...only reason AMA did not because they did not want to get 2v1ed unprovoked.

I seriously can't be bothered reading the rest of your post. You must be completely clueless of how poor AMA and BB have conducted themselves as they sat in power, including last age. You don't get to choose who you fight when you're not on top. Trying to make a choice based on the CF's you have set up will result in dealbreaks and GB's. This is the way of AMA and BB. Take your seat and be happy that the kds on top right now have more respect toward their competitors than your groupie does.

[TheOne]

wait a second....
What have I done?

you are a nubwegian

[Elit]

I seriously can't be bothered reading the rest of your post. You must be completely clueless of how poor AMA and BB have conducted themselves as they sat in power, including last age. You don't get to choose who you fight when you're not on top. Trying to make a choice based on the CF's you have set up will result in dealbreaks and GB's. This is the way of AMA and BB. Take your seat and be happy that the kds on top right now have more respect toward their competitors than your groupie does.

AMA did noting wrong last age its was ED. First you vulture us after 9 days war and next after you loss this war you RUN FROM US in aranged war with Pew Pew x2 so we cant pay back. Sorry but its YOU did ****s not us. AMA is most fair and reasonable kd in top and its proved every age. Problem is there are so many n00bs and do ****s. ED was one from this n00b kds, same for Pew Pew.

Proteus your KD AMA has vultured Rage constantly how many Ages now, not claiming it is even vulturing? Basically AMA has vultured Rage after every war we had when we ran heavy human and Sages.

AMA "vultures" rage till now 0 times. For begin AMA is not Proteus kd its Elit and if some one can complain about ama hurt Rage its Proteus not you or drixx. AMA had only 1 hostile with Rage few ages ago when Proteus lead kd and we gave them 72h notice after kd left his post war. So its4+3 days and enough time for go fort stance and get max protection. Some facts about last 2 ages.
2 ages ago AMA smaller core prov was 10k acres Rage biggest provs was 10k acres. Drixx asked me for not hit his big so he can prepare for war. His prepare take 10 days!!! and we still didn't hit them till eoa. What did rage next for return favor? Hit our cow in active hostile !!!
Last age, we didn't punish RAGE for hit in active hostile and gave them CF. Late in age when deal was expired and had only notice WB come and asked us for not serve notice so he can have his pay back war with Pew Pew. AMA accepted his propose and didn't gave him notice. There is NO KD who will act like it constant.

Last age when we gave 72h notice hoh, they asked for more time for prepare to war us and we gave them it.
Last 2 ages we cf CR from begin so they have pure 1vs1 run with BB and keep it fair.
Last age We offered Pew Pew CF after win war but was rejected. This age we made same and offered them CF again.

I will tell it again. AMA is most honorable and fair kd in server last 5 ages. We don't start ****s but we return ****s when get them.

[Ezzerland]

You must have me confused with someone else. I have never played for ED. You may have played fair this age, but there is still age to go for you to change that. It most definitely will not surprise me when you and BB make a move for it.

[Elit]

You must have me confused with someone else. I have never played for ED. You may have played fair this age, but there is still age to go for you to change that. It most definitely will not surprise me when you and BB make a move for it.

We play fair every age but i cant say same for new alliance Pew Pew/Rage/Pyro. They play extremely lame to us this age. ALL big kds cfed from begin and farm small ghetto kds+explore and Pew Pew and Pyro block us all age and we are forced to war b2b all age. Rage cfed us after its become really close to wave them early on age. Now after Pew Pew end farmed and Rage pump for 4 weeks they jump on us and refuse to give cf. This is not how you play "fair" game in top. ABS was lame but never did ****s like it. Same for AMA/BB. Every kd asked for CF got it from us last age and had his full 1vs1 run. There is not b2b situation KD war with BB and after it get notice from AMA. Pew Pew was alot bigger from us, now its same for Rage. You can be sure this lame play will be returned to them in future so they can make difference and learn to no power play like it.

[Korp]

for there to be an eowCF there has to be a war, that was a fake war that was actioned and ended by support and your opponents never actually touched you in war.

gg taking part in massive friendly farm out.

Yet we werent punished, only Pewpew was punished for abusing mechanics. You can argue all you want and bend it how you want it but SWEA was in a eowcf. See, we were in war and it was ended.

[Korp]

We play fair every age but i cant say same for new alliance Pew Pew/Rage/Pyro. They play extremely lame to us this age. ALL big kds cfed from begin and farm small ghetto kds+explore and Pew Pew and Pyro block us all age and we are forced to war b2b all age. Rage cfed us after its become really close to wave them early on age. Now after Pew Pew end farmed and Rage pump for 4 weeks they jump on us and refuse to give cf. This is not how you play "fair" game in top. ABS was lame but never did ****s like it. Same for AMA/BB. Every kd asked for CF got it from us last age and had his full 1vs1 run. There is not b2b situation KD war with BB and after it get notice from AMA. Pew Pew was alot bigger from us, now its same for Rage. You can be sure this lame play will be returned to them in future so they can make difference and learn to no power play like it.

So, hitting into other peoples conflicts arent lame but when someone is mean to you its suddenly lame? Hypocrite much? Stop crying and man instead, this *****ing in the forums doesnt suit you.

I will tell it again. AMA is most honorable and fair kd in server last 5 ages. We don't start ****s but we return ****s when get them.

Hilarious, but I guess everyone should hit into AMAs conflicts and hit into eowcf cause thats apparently playing fair.

[Ezzerland]

We play fair every age but i cant say same for new alliance Pew Pew/Rage/Pyro. They play extremely lame to us this age. ALL big kds cfed from begin and farm small ghetto kds+explore and Pew Pew and Pyro block us all age and we are forced to war b2b all age. Rage cfed us after its become really close to wave them early on age. Now after Pew Pew end farmed and Rage pump for 4 weeks they jump on us and refuse to give cf. This is not how you play "fair" game in top. ABS was lame but never did ****s like it. Same for AMA/BB. Every kd asked for CF got it from us last age and had his full 1vs1 run. There is not b2b situation KD war with BB and after it get notice from AMA. Pew Pew was alot bigger from us, now its same for Rage. You can be sure this lame play will be returned to them in future so they can make difference and learn to no power play like it.

Please tell me how you and BB threatening to 2v1 and dealbreak a KD to force them to war a target of your choice is not lame.

[flogger]

Please tell me how you and BB threatening to 2v1 and dealbreak a KD to force them to war a target of your choice is not lame.

You idiots complaining that people in the top taking offense to one kingdom purposely farming out 80,000 acres to you might require some sort of special circumstances is just idiodic. I mean seriously. Outside of someone giving you 80,000 acres, we generally give everyone we fight a month to prepare for us, and now we're powerplaying bullies. its absurd, and generally why I have a great disdain for anyone playing utopia these days, because you're really really stupid.

If I decided to war AMA right now and make them 130k acres, you would just say "yeaps, that's fair, we'll deal with it"

Of course not.