Simians vs Pyros

[Anri]

No wait, we are down 4k acres, okey, i will emmediatly WD our forces.
GG

sarcasm

[Dumdidam]

Originally Posted by Anri View Post
Best of luck to Pyros. Two kds pretty decently matched here. They might have a slight advantage with thier twin-towers and some science on us. Nothing we cant overcome and should be a sexy war vs Pyro. We have some unfinished affairs ever since Ovenmitt lead a fiasco war against Pyro. All respect to Pyro if they win another round.

Lets keep fair play and be gentlemen this time. GL
the situation keep changing as and when monkey speaks

(THE WAR IS NOT OVER)

We still have more or less same core as when the fight started and bigger t/ms.
So why would we WD? Sure thier banks, we were not able to overcome them.
But the war itself is not based on banks only. We fight core war now.

We have NOTHING to gain by WDing right now. I gotta look at my own KD, not what everyone else thinks should be done.

Nothing has changed from what i wrote above, we kept fair play, we are gentlemens.
When they outgain our core, we can happily wd. Just no reason for it right now. Absolutely not one single reason.
On the contrary, our t/ms gains out of this so we certainly dont feel like WDing.

A few things regarding the war:

They stack acres on banks, this is where they have thier gains obviously. Simians failed to kill thier pop because our t/ms and chains could not FB them effectively. So this gives them dragon advantage for all war and the ability to aid like mad and gain free acres on us. Not much more to say about that.
See summary, all thier gains is stacked on the banks.

We done some damage, we hitted all but one T/M, some t/ms many times. So it hurt thier pool acres.

We currently work on what looks to be a race of who can rape the other sides attackers first. So, we do 99% damage into the orcs right now. We are not done in the war, even if they stack acres on the banks. The banks is really nothing we ever had a chance to overcome. We knew they had 4 cows and we was rather suprised we managed to take one down with us. Two 6500a provs and 1 7k human vs 4 cows on 9-11k acres. Not a bad job done there. Our biggest weakness is that our t/ms been unable to take out thier banks pop, if that had been done, we would be looking at having big chances to win the war. Banks just control wars like this.

Pyro is up 4k acres on the last summary they posted? We took that into full waving them into fort stance like maniacs.

I am not impressed, i am not suprised. With a bit more channeling and wpa on the t/ms we would more then likely had this war in our pocket. 25% success rate on so many banks just dont work. Hopefully thier unpumped banks will be all they have before we choose to move on. I wish Pyro GL, they will need it in the future.

so from twin towers to 4 cows. suddenly you put a lot of credits on their bank because your TM unable to bring them down.
i think you just put up lots of excuse in justifying your kd performance when obviously people know why you are losing.

btw who make decision to wave into fortified? take responsibility of your action and not blaming the consequences. lol

[Anri]

My kds performance been flawless. Everyone is there for armies non stop. We battle their core and its a both fun and awesome fight.
We just dont WD being down 4k acres, and no we will not WD if thier summary says we are down 15k acres either before we wave because there is a huge amount of acres moving around. Why would we as a warring KD wd being 4k down that they stacked in thier banks?? Quadtapps for 1k acres is not uncommon. Its 4 army returns <-- We are tacts and we are not done fighting thier core yet. Ok!
Should we WD because longterm we can probably not win the war? We knew that going into the war FFS. Do i need to spell it out for people, i said there is 50/50 chance we can overcome the advantages they had. So what if we did not control thier banks, can we fight their core, no? War is over if we cant fight thier banks?

Whats wrong with people, let us war and have fun ffs

seriously

[PhunkyPhishStyle]

Should we WD because longterm we can probably not win the war? We knew that going into the war FFS.

Do i need to spell it out for people, i said there is 50/50 chance we can overcome the advantages they had.

These two statements are contradictory.

[Anri]

These two statements are contradictory.

No they dont, when speaking of 50/50 chance to overcome thier advantage i speak about thier banks alone

[Anri]

Here is summary after our wave:

May 21 of YR6 - January 21 of YR7
72 hours of conflict

Total Attacks Made: 536 (+91351 acres)
Total Attacks Suffered: 441 (-92472 acres)
Net Exchange: -1121 acres

Additional Information: Dragons & Relations

Our Kingdom: (Simians) -1121 acres (536/441) [135]
Dragons: Sent: 1 Received: 3
---Anonymous Hits---: +28243 acres (97/0) []
Friesian: +1144 acres (13/2) [5]
Interesting Times: +979 acres (21/5) [7]
Raistlin: +816 acres (16/0) [4]
No alarms anymore for me: +709 acres (32/15) [8]
Centurian: +569 acres (13/0) [4]
Rosso: +469 acres (16/0) [4]
arghh RORO: +443 acres (11/0) [4]
Justin Bieber: +313 acres (5/0) [2]
Queen of Blades: +201 acres (19/11) [6]
Dont want to be UnDead: +142 acres (2/0) [1]
Blood and Sand: -407 acres (22/21) [6]
it means no worries: -419 acres (28/41) [7]
LuckyShot: -789 acres (10/6) [5]
Woof bloody woof: -1116 acres (22/24) [6]
Chooey: -1687 acres (27/29) [8]
I eat elves for breakfast: -2022 acres (23/30) [7]
Help ME Im defenseless: -2125 acres (17/20) [7]
Oh No its HIM: -2395 acres (22/59) [7]
FazeBook: -2710 acres (21/33) [6]
Madara Uchiha: -2733 acres (24/33) [7]
luvulongtime: -2844 acres (19/28) [6]
Cheese Pie: -3551 acres (20/26) [6]
The Mentalist: -3671 acres (20/27) [5]
Paul Walker: -3805 acres (8/13) [3]
burundukos: -4875 acres (8/18) [4]

Enemy Kingdom: (Pyromaniacs) +1121 acres (441/536) [119]
Dragons: Sent: 3 Received: 1
---Anonymous Hits---: +31895 acres (117/0) []
23 keep moving forward: +3695 acres (18/1) [6]
02 something you already know: +2889 acres (15/2) [6]
03 The world aint: +1357 acres (9/0) [5]
10 to your knees: +1189 acres (7/5) [5]
13 You me or nobody: +1156 acres (8/3) [5]
16 But it aint about: +556 acres (9/0) [3]
09 it will beat you: +507 acres (21/7) [6]
25 We did it: +427 acres (19/19) [5]
08 how tough you are: +353 acres (25/15) [6]
01 Let me tell you: -183 acres (9/1) [3]
07 I dont care: -446 acres (4/5) [3]
05 Its a very mean: -715 acres (19/29) [6]
14 is gonna hit as: -936 acres (11/18) [7]
24 Yo Adrian: -989 acres (19/20) [5]
06 and nasty place: -1092 acres (7/10) [4]
15 hard as life: -1413 acres (9/15) [4]
22 you can take and: -1484 acres (13/17) [6]
04 all sunshine and rainbows: -2536 acres (7/20) [4]
11 and keep you there: -2787 acres (14/23) [4]
18 Its about how: -3494 acres (19/93) [5]
19 hard you can get: -4630 acres (11/60) [4]
20 hit and keep moving: -4682 acres (21/60) [5]
17 how hard you hit: -5048 acres (13/50) [4]
12 permanently if you let it: -5078 acres (1/10) [1]
21 forward how much: -7390 acres (16/53) [7]

We down 1k acres there.

We also started this war by waving them into fort stance. They declared us having armies out.
We still outhit them and we like to continue this fight.
In the hostile itself we had 4k acre gain. So okey, its thier wave incoming. I say its pretty even.
We stack acres on our t/ms, we break thier hybrid a/t/m now and then. They have banks and dragon advantage, we like to fight some more.

Enough said, summary and KD page speaks for itself. I will not WD based on what KD has banks only. Not until core is done.

[Dumdidam]

if you choose to make decision even when you know that you will be at disadvantage then it's your problem. either you made those decision based on tactical consideration or it's simply stupid.
bringing it up again as a cause of losing is simply making it sound like a stupid decision or execution plan has failed.

[Cello]

Whats wrong with people, let us war and have fun ffs

seriously

Nobody's forcing you to withdraw, people are just telling you to get off your delusional high horse and stop judging other people, while not withdrawing when you are clearly losing a war. You may have noticed that RBL wasn't down more than a few acres the first few days of war, but that eventually they lost 20k+ acres. You might want to learn from them, or walk the same road.

And threatening with EOA razes because you can't win on arguments alone is kind of pathetic, Anri. Shows how much of a sore loser you are, how little you understand about fair play and top KD politics and how truly pathetic your propaganda about warring us at the start of the age truly was. You never had any intention of warring us fairly, you only bragged when you thought you had an advantage and ran when you realized you'd get creamed.

Back on topic: Pyro now controls this war and they'll slowly but surely win this. Well played Pyro, and truly living up to your farming name and game, Anri + Simians.

Congrats to Calle

[Anri]

if you choose to make decision even when you know that you will be at disadvantage then it's your problem. either you made those decision based on tactical consideration or it's simply stupid.
bringing it up again as a cause of losing is simply making it sound like a stupid decision or execution plan has failed.

No alternative, our CF ran out and hitting them first was far greater option then have them pump pump up and hit us first. Also, good for the future of our age, despite if we lose. I dont lay awake at night over losing a war we knew was high chances we would lose. Trust me, we waged some alternatives and making our move first on them no matter what was the only thing to do. I rather war and have a chance of winning over getting creamed in hostile and forced into war or giving free wave. I take war any day over hostile, if they gain some of the war with a WW it does not matter to us at all, it only concern other kds that like to hit them after war. It also benefits us. It was either stupid nor did execution fail, we done exactly what we can from our potential.

We did not choose our disadvantage, we did not have CFs nor pool to match them better by the time CF ended. It more or less came down to a deal since yr1, if we could we would not have had the 48h notice that made them being able to explore 2 more banks and match our core better and it was a winning deal for them.

The fight itself was nothing we could run from, it was bound to happen ever since last age and i suspect a round 2 might be bound to happen later this age as well.

We rather war then give acres, we also dont run, we give war, we dont really care if we lose this round, ofc a win would be better, but then we would be the ones getting smacked around by either CR or AMA up there. It does not look good for either Pyro or Simians. And the alternatives below was not an option. This war was destined to happen.

So here we are today and fighting and having fun, we are losing to Pyro, they are winning and we were not ending it yet because there is no reason for us to end it right now. Thats just it.

[Anri]

Nobody's forcing you to withdraw, people are just telling you to get off your delusional high horse and stop judging other people, while not withdrawing when you are clearly losing a war. You may have noticed that RBL wasn't down more than a few acres the first few days of war, but that eventually they lost 20k+ acres. You might want to learn from them, or walk the same road.

And threatening with EOA razes because you can't win on arguments alone is kind of pathetic, Anri. Shows how much of a sore loser you are, how little you understand about fair play and top KD politics and how truly pathetic your propaganda about warring us at the start of the age truly was. You never had any intention of warring us fairly, you only bragged when you thought you had an advantage and ran when you realized you'd get creamed.

Back on topic: Pyro now controls this war and they'll slowly but surely win this. Well played Pyro, and truly living up to your farming name and game, Anri + Simians.

Congrats to Calle

I tought we had been over this many times. You waved us having our armies out on pyromaniacs, despite of this we did set a wave to declare AMA all up til Pyro started to retal back when you had waved us. We were not going to run and we were going to war you.
We just did not know where you were. Sure AMA had probably won over us, your KD is very strong. But why is it that Simians dont get to challenge your KD? Why dont we get to war Pyro at a disadvantage and try the challenge? What is the problem with challening the best kds on this server and have a go at them? There is no inbetween. Everyone and thier mothers can tell we deeply outhit Pyro and if we had 4 banks on our side we would likely have won this war. On a side note i dont think either Pyro or Simians would have a chance vs AMA this age. We will still wanted to make the fight man. Get of your high horse and be glad ppl want to war and compete.

[Abscond]

AMA is QQing because Simians are feeding Pyro cows.

[Anri]

AMA is QQing because Simians are feeding Pyro cows.

Nah, the more acres Pyro gets from Simians the more acres will be transfered to AMA.

They should be joyful!

[Anri]

Anyway, we planned things to match 100k vs 100k acres. The forum exploded about our fight and we knew there was a big risk Pyro would explore up after BB fight because our stupid 48h notice. They added 15k acres, made two new cows and grew core.

We had no pool to counter it, we had all ready whored and explored all we could to match the 100k for a fun fight.

They had two twin-towers, so we grew 3 calfs to match it, we did not expect 4 cows vs 3 calfs fight.

It decided the outcome of the war and it made Pyro being at advantage enough to win the war.

We really never intended to fight 4 cows, we would have explored/whored in a different way if we had known beforehand.
It was nice play by Pyro, if they got adviced to do it or not does not matter. But it surely gave them the edge they needed to beat Simians here.

I somehow wish we could just kill banks to get more interesting wars, Bishop failed it yet another time.
We had probably whored/banked from the start of the age if we knew what we know now.

But GG Pyro you won this one

[Meep]

Nah, the more acres Pyro gets from Simians the more acres will be transfered to AMA.

They should be joyful!

AMAs top could be pretty outnumbered depending on how much you let Pyros cows grow, and how many days you let them add to their explore pool to grow more provs

[Anri]

Should be no problem for them!