PewPew vs AMA

[Proteus]

Havoc was a lot more pumped then AMA and had a lot bigger stocks and may have won without the stealing but not likely, it would have been a hard war for ama, harder then the sanctuary war. Take into account main reason sanctuary lost was because of bug in game, so its not like AMA had some legendary farmout of sanctuary. (sanctuary had to kill 7 dragons in a row in hostile)

Elit had millions of gc on 0 tpa?
Elit had leaked our intel when we did same?
Elit had been noticed and should probably have just accepted that he lost some gc due to running 0 tpa rather then hitting a much smaller kd for stealing from him.
Elit waved a KD (sanctuary who was not even in declare range and had just lost a war to him due to bug)
I offered to restart notice from end of hits on AMA/Sanc and to increase it to 72h. I advised him I could not give much longer since he was exploring up calves well claiming hostile with sanctuary. He said the only deal he would except was a 2 week cf and 15k acres from sanctuary. Would have left his KD about 40% larger then mine. I told him no but if he had more realistic request to come back, he never returned to the diplo table.

Elit was ridiculous in diplo. He also hit into havocs hostile earlier in age, and arranged for a a solo province to suicide on us and farm out to him. Havoc requested sanctuary stop hits on them and I requested that proteus stay out of the conflict as he wanted to join / if we lost was going to just NAP break them.

I still think I played the situation as reasonably as I could, although I am not an entirely reasonable person :). The gold stealing was a moderate powerplay, everything else that happened elit brought on himself :)

Dude you were talking scared the whole time begging for advice how not to farm out bc you had no clue what you were doing. Given how many acres ama farmed without damage they would have crushed you. Ama already had kds like pewpew, fake rbl, evil dragons, etc try to vulture them and all ended up farming out to them. You also were going to notice no matter what (same what pewpew did here). Please stop trying to spin when entire logs are available, I'll just post them all over again.

[Elldallan]

Should we dig up the logs between Petrified and Elit were Elit all along planned to jump Sanc again and then let PewPew vulture them right after that second fight?

Elit just got lucky as hell that Sanc robbed him alittle so he could use that as an excuse for the powerplay of Sanc which would have happened anyway.

So dont try and spinn that one around.

Sure dig up those logs, not that it changes anything, if Elit had gone for Sanct again without the justification Sanct provided then he would have had no grounds to claim unjust alliance action and 2v1, then it would have been he who got himself 2v1'ed, but as things are it's obvious alliance action to 2v1 a dangerous enemy they had little to no chance to win against by fair play.

Please stop trying to spin when entire logs are available, I'll just post them all over again.

Please do :D

[RemoteAdvisor]

Razes on AMA that age were coordinated by an ex-CR leader.

Nope, this has nothing to do with CR.Like we explained many times, ama hit into our hostiles tje age before, sat on ridiculous low defense on cows without cfing us, so we razed as payback. The end.

[goodz]

Dude you were talking scared the whole time begging for advice how not to farm out bc you had no clue what you were doing. Given how many acres ama farmed without damage they would have crushed you. Ama already had kds like pewpew, fake rbl, evil dragons, etc try to vulture them and all ended up farming out to them. You also were going to notice no matter what (same what pewpew did here). Please stop trying to spin when entire logs are available, I'll just post them all over again.

maybe you should go back and read logs?

Most of #abscouncil when you're not their is everyone else in the channel complaining about how annoying you are. Most of when you are there is you bragging about how you would beat them with your sages and us telling you that you shouldn't of lost to them early and been forced to eoa nap with your sages :P Then you telling us you'll just nap break them if you lose.

All I said is we might not win and HoH should continue to put up cows and stock GC to be prepared to notice them if we lose. It was certainly hard position because Sanctuary farmed out hard due to bug. You were the one constantly posting that you wanted to just nap break them / were going to if we lost. I did tell sanctuary lol sure steal their gold if they ran 0 tpa they are idiots since they target shared us for doing same. I said multiple times we may not win the conflict- this is pretty common for me in wars. I am rarely overly confident / spend as much time thinking about strategies enemies may take that while be hard for us to counter. Anyway is long time ago we are both nobodies in retirement now- no one cares what we did a few years ago.

[StratOcastle]

Nope, this has nothing to do with CR.Like we explained many times, ama hit into our hostiles tje age before, sat on ridiculous low defense on cows without cfing us, so we razed as payback. The end.

Yes, I put the video on my personal page. It should be posted in the numerous ' dealing with bullies ' threads.

@ goodz - should I just train offense?

[goodz]

Yes, I put the video on my personal page. It should be posted in the numerous ' dealing with bullies ' threads.

@ goodz - should I just train offense?

If you want to keep enemies out build a fence. The best fence is offense. Remember this when you protect your province. To prevent nuclear war we didn't take nukes away from everyone and try to prevent access. We gave them to everyone to assure no one would dare use them. Offense protects you in utopia in this same manner.

[Crunch]

It's nice to watch how quickly you back peddle.


And yes please. If you see anyone insulting, harassing, or trolling other users, please report it.

this site will go the way of utopiatemple it all started with the double posts for wars...

[Bukharistan]

If you want to keep enemies out build a fence. The best fence is offense. Remember this when you protect your province. To prevent nuclear war we didn't take nukes away from everyone and try to prevent access. We gave them to everyone to assure no one would dare use them. Offense protects you in utopia in this same manner.

You're asking the men to take on nukes with pitchforks. Doesn't matter how many pitchforks you stack in your garage, you will never come out on top.

[Crunch]

You remember it wrong. Explain from them in chat with me was: BB used his multies for raze AMA and we hate BB and flogger and its why we will WD to jerks.
I asked flogger if he have any idea who is this kd and he didn't so he cant have grudge with them. Same for us. BUT during age pendel told me several times he have friends ready to farm to him and he win age. I think its what happen.

I can't read this whole thread so I may have it wrong .. but the age jerks won that is the same age at the end I and some in my kd razed you .. I think your response or someones response in your leadership to me was lame move... which it did not raze nearly as much as i thought and did not cause you to lose so it was a failure on my part and yes lame... had my reasons at the time but have to say for the most part and compared to others in the top i admire ama more

[tras19]

You're asking the men to take on nukes with pitchforks. Doesn't matter how many pitchforks you stack in your garage, you will never come out on top.

Unless you have nuclear powered radioactive pitchforks!

[Elit]

I can't read this whole thread so I may have it wrong .. but the age jerks won that is the same age at the end I and some in my kd razed you .. I think your response or someones response in your leadership to me was lame move... which it did not raze nearly as much as i thought and did not cause you to lose so it was a failure on my part and yes lame... had my reasons at the time but have to say for the most part and compared to others in the top i admire ama more

I have no idea why you razed us and special when both KDs had EOA cf i think but i was expecting it and preparing plan B. If no one did any lame move we will have won age with 100-200 acres lead from BB but its every time some one make lame move.
Im kinda used to it now and start return favor to rest kds when accept it to us.

[Chrystal Palace]

#land4Chrystal

[StratOcastle]

Unless you have nuclear powered radioactive pitchforks!

We can do that.

Actually I can build whatever I want, but I try to fit in with my kingdom. Frangible Stealth Hammer Flechette Velocity Axes are standard issue for my elites.

[tras19]

We can do that.

Actually I can build whatever I want, but I try to fit in with my kingdom. Frangible Stealth Hammer Flechette Velocity Axes are standard issue for my elites.

Can you build sharks with friggin laser beams on their heads!?!?

[StratOcastle]

Can you build sharks with friggin laser beams on their heads!?!?

We've found players stricken with 'victim complex' and friggin laser beams on their heads are not quite as effective but more entertaining :-D mwhahahahaha!

I'd like to propose a charity: Cows for Victims

We run a poll on who the complainingest victim is. Then, by casting lots, some innocent cow is chosen to abandon province and allow the victim champeen to adopt.

Before: " I can't retaliate against someone 3 times my size and mew, mew, mew...."

After: " THEY'RE COMING FROM ALL DIRECTIONS! LIKE ANTS ALL OVER MY BODY! mew, mew, mew...."