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    believe that youre safe all you want, safety just like the threat is just an illusion anyway. other than that read AFKains response, no need to iterate why your conclusion is wrong.

    About religion, jerusalem and history one shouldnt mix up history too much with the actual religious believes. Religions have often been, and still are being, used as tools to achieve a goal rather than enforcing the actual religious themselves. Intolerance through out history has been seen in all of these religions and so has tolerance. The question isnt as simple as what the religion says or doesnt say. As for your interpretation of islam (i doubt you actually read the quran though that view is hardly prominent among the islamic community even though some share it to this date, but the same can be said about jews and christians aswell. So really your argument holds no value. That Islam holds the view that all people should be converted to be saved is hardly unique either, thats equally true for Christianity and most likely for Judaism as well.

    A quick question though, how are they going to avoid befriending them if they want to convert them? Hard to convert someone you dont talk with. And if you want to interpret things in ways that fit you i can just throw it around and claim that Christianity teaches the exact same things. Once again, your argument holds little value.

    Religions have always been used in the way that fits the one proclaiming the word, sad but true. We shouldnt blame religion itself for its acclaimed followers misinterpretations of the word though. I mean, i can hardly blame Jesus for Bush (and tons of other so called American christians) for their un-christian behaviour can i?

    Either way its pretty much like modern "democracy" everyone else can do whatever they want as long as they dont threaten our position. Then our tolerance of other peoples opinions and belives goes out the window. To blame religion for it is just dumb.

    (Oh and yeah, the conflict over Jerusalem did hardly start with Mohammed, it existed long before he was ever born, and quite frankly long before Jesus was born as well. But in terms of these three religions the conflict between Jews and Christians obviously predates that of Jews and Muslims)

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    that doesn't mean though that closing down Gaza, isn't working, as despite how wrong it is, it is working
    In what way is it working? Oppression of normal people are hardly the way to create stability and order in a region, it just feeds hate and creates an even bigger Us vs Them situation. A situation that is never beneficial in terms of peace and order. By your logics we might as well kill everyone, because then theres no problem anymore. Guess Stalin was right after all in saying:
    Death solves all problems - no man, no problem

    Lets kill all Jews all arabs all muslims all russians all communists all democrats and all hippies. Yeah that sounds like a good solution! That way there will be no more terrorist attacks on american soil, at least not muslim ones! Great thinking.
    Last edited by RAKIdaRHINO; 22-10-2008 at 00:31.

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