Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
Okay, Vikings got nothing to do with this thread but I like history, so here I go.


Vikings didn't kill or rape more than the next guy, they were just very efficient. If you got a degree in Archaeology, you ought to know some history and how Charlemagne fared on his campaigns on the continent.

And yes, I think if rape was seen as okay back then, I think it's okay that ppl did it. If it was seen as something horrible, I don't think it's okay. I don't think it's okay to do it now.

Anyways, historians claim Vikings didn't rape. They came, they killed those they needed to, they enslaved and they plundered. After a while, they colonised.

But unlike the early Americans, most Vikings tried to live in peace with the locals in the countries they settled, though the times were unstable and warring ofc happened a lot. Settled Vikings mixed with the locals(not by raping) and for example in Normandy, they became French-Normans.


I too have studied history and I read a lot, especially on the Viking period. Actually, I teach history at upper secondary/High school these days, just finished a chapter about the Europeans "discovering" the New World + more. Needless to say, I make them reflect, that's the whole point. I hope to see my pupils do well on the test after Easter. :)
I know how you hate the hillbillies of America, but are so damn proud of your ancestors. Them rednecks of the middle ages. Vikings weren't a warrior race, not as an army so comparing them to Sparta is a joke. Spartans didn't run from fights as much as you did. You attacked civilians and avoided a real fight.

As for America is such a bad education system, people can't move up and all that jazz. I am not one of those, both of my parents are physicians. I am in my 3rd year in med school in the midst of my sub-i's. I have seen plenty of peers who had parents who worked 2-3 jobs, who were on scholarships and are just brilliant and hardworking. Of course there are several students who come from families like mine, but living in the Midwest in a heavy agricultural area I have seen just as many families rise to the top through hard work and taking advantage of post secondary education as I have read the news about how America's education is failing.

Meh, I blame Carter. People begged us for help and we spent a large amount of precious lives to gain other peoples freedom (aka bailout).
Stoffi, make sure to thank us for YOUR freedom. Norway already failed a couple times, they just got lucky they had people with enough compassion and humanity to save them.

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