Quote Originally Posted by hly^- View Post
sn0wballz, your kd went fort did a semipump and STALLED any type of talk at all and kept taking our intel. Any decent KD would assume you were going to wave us or raze us and therfore you made us train up. This action led to you pretty much destroyed our pump. As a smaller and less experienced KD you can not expect to get the "good" end of the deal in diplo.

Do it different next time, atleast you can prevent another kd to pump up for a possible fight.
There's 2 sides of a story I guess. I dont know which is true. The one I heard was Emeriti refusing a CF deal without acres being handed over. Why does a CF deal always have to include land? Do you honestly want to risk screwing your pump for a top fight by being stubborn over a temp cf?

I know Beastblood gave Emeriti in their ghetto age a free CF without even asking for land. Now when BB was ghettoing, Emeriti felt the need to be the only whoring kingdom to want land for a CF.

As for keeping intel up on kingdoms you have no CF with, I do/did this all the time with kingdoms in range. You'd be dumb not to.