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    civil war in usa?

    Just had a discussion bout this idea...

    if Obama loses it is sure that there will be much civil unrest - just like when his cousin lost in Africa...


    If Obama wins - I expect to see the country in the midst of a class war of some sort - I know I am not looking forward to the changes he brings...

    What happens when he tries to repeal the term limitations ?

    our country is split in half already - how much will it take before all hell breaks loose and its another civil war?

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    I don't think it will be that bad.

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    I doubt it would happen in all seriousness.

    Unless republicans and democrats have seperate, secret armies? Cant see the US Armed Forces turning against eachother over political values on economic reform, taxes, etc.

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    The mobility of the people is much better now than the 1860s.

    People who really cannot stand the policies will just leave the country.

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    The worst case scenario I could foresee concerning the US elections is this:

    Obama gets elected and then, some Neo nazi or KKK affiliated moron shoots him dead (or blows up his car or whatever).

    Could widen the racial rift in the US quite a bit and cause lots of riots and unrest and the scary part is that it would take only one moron with a good opportunity to do it.

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    i really hope this is a big joke.

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    >i really hope this is a big joke.<

    If you're talking about the possibility of Obama getting elected and then assassinated, its not a joke to me.

    Given that he's in the lead, the possibility of him getting elected is pretty real and given the lingering racism in the US, their lax gun policies and their track record, the possibility of Obama getting shot if he's elected is very real also.

    Sometimes, I worry about it and hope that he doesn't get too trusting and lax on the security if he's elected.

    Despite all the thrash pro McCains throw at him, he seems like a nice guy and I really hate it when bad things happen to good people.

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    was talking about the thread. presidents being assassinated is hardly impossible. But i dont think itll lead to any revolts.

    and yeah, he does seem like a nice guy.

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    are you kidding about no revolts??????????????

    there will be serious problems no matter who is elected -

    look at what happened in Africa when Obama's cousin did not get elected - Obama supported and encouraged his cousin in this revolt - thats a fact
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77508

    if obama loses there will be very similar riots/revolts - the likes of which will make the LA Riots look peaceful. I am positive that many people will rebel for a variety of reasons. Some over racism, some over fear of the "war mongers" some cuz they see everyone else doing it, etc. Let's face it obama fans have been brainwashed into thinking he is a god of some sort that will magically make everything better.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...out_obama.html

    if obama wins - the true racists will come forth and protest - those of us who are afraid of obama will sit back at first and wait for whatever disasters he brings - but it wont be long til we cant take it anymore and some will become very vocal and angry - especially if he continues to call us names like bitter and selfish = obama is dividing the country not uniting us - if he wins he will cause a bigger rift between classes - what happens when he tries to institute some of his stupid plans like mandatory preschool for 2 year olds? how many parents will be in trouble with the law for not sending their child to school? how long will Americans tolerate asinine ideas like that before they revolt?

    What happens when all the corruption in the voting unravels? what happens if it turns out that Obama really was born in Kenya? what happens if he pulls out of Iraq in January and we get invaded in February?

    Trust me America will never be the same after this - this truly is the election of our life time - we will see what we have left when the dust settles!

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    OMG LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN AFRICA
    that youre even retarded enough to compare the stability of america and africa scares me.

    secondly, and i know this is gonna sound racist but it really isnt, "everyone" are "cousins" in africa.. the distance doesnt really matter youre still cousins.. in the same sense Bush and Queen Elizabeth (and all monarchs in europe) are cousins..

    thirdly, according to your own country Odinga was the legitimate winner of the election. And vote manipulation in africa is unfortunately quite frequent so its hardly improbable that it took place in Kenya as well.

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    suppose Obama slipps up and says something incredibly stupid, which will make him lose the election (highly unlikely considering the election is only 2 days away (and has already started for some)) and this happens like on the day of the election, so that not everyone is not fully aware what has happened, then yeah civil unrest can happen.

    people are stupid in times of crisis and the economy is a powerful point however one's perception is.

    The race riots in places like Detroit during WW2 are an example of that. So yeah it could happen. McCain will then be the only person who can do something about it. He will need to take a very passive stance and wait for Obama to screw up.

    the problem with this strategy is that it also has one huge defecit, namely that it will cause resentment under a large part of the population and later cause mistrust (something you really don't need as whatever person becomes president, he will have hard work cut out for him).

    This problem stems from the fact that the U.S. voting system is so incredibly bad.
    Corruption is a serious impediment to civil liberties.

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    I am of course talking about the riots under Roosevelt, for those wondering

    but massive riots is the worst thing that can happen. Civil war on the hand is not going to happen. For one thing the U.S. isn't a tribal society like Kenya.

    That doesn't mean though that either of it is any good, on the contrary.
    Last edited by freemehul; 02-11-2008 at 16:42.
    Corruption is a serious impediment to civil liberties.

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    i hope you are right - but i think you are wrong -

    i think that bad things are ahead for usa - no matter who wins - but i best hope lies in keeping obama out of the white house

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    then again neither was the U.S. a tribal society during the civil war as there were economic interests there that were the main cause, namely slavery.

    thing is though that the difference was largely geographical located as most of the slaves were in the south.

    today U.S. economy (and its economic interests) is much more diffuse than that, so that would be the final reason why riots are likely, but civil war is out of the question.
    Corruption is a serious impediment to civil liberties.

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