Best Kingdom ever?

[Palem]

But you are doomed to become better at the game, if you dont b ecome better after playing the game for 10 years there is something wrong. You dont need to be a great strategist to run a decent kd neither do you need to have people have access 24/7. But after playing for 10 years in the same kd you should have at least have a decent kd. (10 year is just a random number same applies for 5 years or whatever)

Playing by the rules dont mean that you suck, there people that played within the rules of the game and won number one provices for example. But saying you suck due to you playing by the rules is stupid.

Where did I say I suck? And where did I say I haven't gotten better?

[Korp]

Well, you replied to my post about Fates Warning suck cause he havent been able to build a good enough kd with saying you have respect for the game as if that was some kind of excuse to you sucking.

[Coke]

Trying to put words into my mouth? Looking for any little petty thing to attack me on? Why? To deflect the facts of you all trying to play stupid? lol

We gave provinces plenty of opportunity before we removed. Nothing that was blatantly against the rules such as yourself.

First what about putting words into people's mouths? When did I do something against the rules? I never said I traded nor did I, I never even played in the top back then. So your pretty much now assuming people who criticized you all cheated? Wow, that's almost just too good.

Second if you can't take criticism you shouldn't give it. Just because YOU didn't think you cheated doesn't mean you NEVER cheated. Just because trading was thought to be ok doesn't make it not cheating. Your exactly the same. That's the whole point, so go shove your saintly image of yourself up your ass.

I also said I wasn't in the top kds back then, so I really could care less, my KD sucked back then so what? I never traded back then and never thought that trading would have given me much of an advantage, the advantage you got from trading is equalized by the potential to be deleted.....well back when rules were at least sort of enforced.

[Realest]

For the record, Sinners were huge cheaters. Had a classmate in the kingdom, I sat beside him in the library while he logged 3 accounts by himself using munk.

[Fates Warning]

First what about putting words into people's mouths? When did I do something against the rules? I never said I traded nor did I, I never even played in the top back then. So your pretty much now assuming people who criticized you all cheated? Wow, that's almost just too good.

Second if you can't take criticism you shouldn't give it. Just because YOU didn't think you cheated doesn't mean you NEVER cheated. Just because trading was thought to be ok doesn't make it not cheating. Your exactly the same. That's the whole point, so go shove your saintly image of yourself up your ass.

I also said I wasn't in the top kds back then, so I really could care less, my KD sucked back then so what? I never traded back then and never thought that trading would have given me much of an advantage, the advantage you got from trading is equalized by the potential to be deleted.....well back when rules were at least sort of enforced.

Yes, I CAN say I NEVER CHEATED. Go shove your comments up YOUR ass. Never said we were 'saintly'. I said we played by the rules. Plain and simple. But then you try to find something to pin on me about removing inactives... gtfo.

I'm confused... Are you saying illegal trades that created these 'great kingdoms' was in fact cheating? That's my point. Plain and simple. But instead of people admitting to the fact they try to bash and defelect to issue. Sad.

[Fates Warning]

But you are doomed to become better at the game, if you dont b ecome better after playing the game for 10 years there is something wrong. You dont need to be a great strategist to run a decent kd neither do you need to have people have access 24/7. But after playing for 10 years in the same kd you should have at least have a decent kd. (10 year is just a random number same applies for 5 years or whatever)

Playing by the rules dont mean that you suck, there people that played within the rules of the game and won number one provices for example. But saying you suck due to you playing by the rules is stupid.

Yes, provinces took top individual charts. Most through being useless to the kingdom they are in... or through farming out other accounts. How many time have I heard people say 'don't outgrow your kingdom'. So if I don't do that in a ghetto I now suck? Please... try again.

Don't talk to me about training provinces. We trained more provinces on how to play this game than ANY top kingdom ever has. For the rest I will refer to Palems post. 18-20 province kingdoms don't chart. Your fully recruited/account collected/ All provinces logging in at the drop of a hat kingdoms did. Sorry if our Ghetto couldn't compete with you elitists.

[Korp]

So if I don't do that in a ghetto I now suck? Please... try again.

No you suck cause you havent been able to build a good kingdom even thou you spent years and years and year on it.

We trained more provinces on how to play this game than ANY top kingdom ever has.

lol, yet again you come with the accusations you have no proof of. Quit that holier than you attitude will ya, it dont do you any good at all.

18-20 province kingdoms don't chart. Your fully recruited/account collected/ All provinces logging in at the drop of a hat kingdoms did.

What, you had all that time to build a kd and you dont even manage to keep 25 provinces? I guess there is something wrong with you then and your so called "skills". I never been in a kingdom where all provinces manage to login in at the drop of a hat, it takes planning, to do such things. Neither have i been in a kd where all provs were traded, there was usually a core of people that played toghter and learned to know each other. But I wasnt even talking about competing with the top, i said a decent kd, a decent kd used to be around top 50 ish.

[Palem]

Well, you replied to my post about Fates Warning suck cause he havent been able to build a good enough kd with saying you have respect for the game as if that was some kind of excuse to you sucking.

No. Trading is legal now and has been for awhile. Any previously benefits that the trading kds had over non-trading kds has long since evaporated.

However, pre-legal trading, it's a bit of an issue. Playing poorly is inexcusable, however I don't equate building a kd without breaking the rules to sucking. Building a kd is easier with trading and leads to an almost entirely different game if you are trading. Take for example, some kind of a First Person Shooter that lets you melee or something. The ultimate goal is to beat the game. You went ahead and shot while we just tried to melee. So if you managed to beat the game while shooting, but the other person only got 70% of the way through the game by just melee'ing, you have absolutely no right to say that the other person sucks until you go through and not only do what they do, but do it considerably better than them.

[Korp]

you have absolutely no right to say that the other person sucks until you go through and not only do what they do, but do it considerably better than them.

But I have most likely done everything that you done considerably better, lets put it like this, if i only had a knife in CS and you had a range of weapons of your choice I would still be the one killing you and not the other way around (without cheating) Okey enough ego posts, but honestly, if i spent say 5 years building a kingdom from scratch I am pretty sure i would make it a top 50 kingdom easily. Cause we are on two different levels of dedication to the game

[Palem]

What's this we stuff? I haven't spent 5 years trying to build anything.

What I'm saying is, unless you're doing the same thing, then you have no right to cast judgment about other people's skills. If Fates wants to bring up pre-trading issues and say he that you're superiority on the charts at the time was tainted, he's well within his rights to do that.

However, if he wants to argue his playing by the rules has still limited his success, then I can not help him because as far as I'm aware, everyone's on equal ground.

[Korp]

Well all this really goes back to Fates Warning, he claimed that he played bla bla bla years you butted into a conversation i had with fates warning so its a bit odd. So, anyway unless you are doing the same thing you cant cast judgement upon me then? Yet you done it quite alot in this thread.. Its funny how things works, i bet you gonna say that it dont work bothways ..

[Palem]

Where did I throw judgments about skill around? My stance for a long time now has been that they are definitely more skilled than I am, or at least their leadership is.

If I did say something along the lines of "I'm better than them", I apologize. Most likely a heat-of-the-moment thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlTvWvfEMxE

[Coke]

Yes, I CAN say I NEVER CHEATED. Go shove your comments up YOUR ass. Never said we were 'saintly'. I said we played by the rules. Plain and simple. But then you try to find something to pin on me about removing inactives... gtfo.

I'm confused... Are you saying illegal trades that created these 'great kingdoms' was in fact cheating? That's my point. Plain and simple. But instead of people admitting to the fact they try to bash and defelect to issue. Sad.

No I'm saying you cheated even though you didn't think it was cheating. Just like trading Kds cheated by trading even though they thought it was ok 'because they didn't think it was cheating.'

Yea you can say YOU never cheated, but you always claimed that YOUR whole KD never cheated which you can't claim for sure. So why else did your KD suck then?

What is it about trading that ticks you off? You think that your clean conscious is the only thing that can justify you failing at this game? So sorry not only do you suck but your also a cheater, sucks when reality bites huh?

[Kaer Hurlin]

Both Wrath and Eq was stable top kingdoms but they werent really anything out of the ordinary.

take Wrath of Abs over Eq any day .......... when you warred Wrath you knew about it.

[MorbidAngel]

Yes, I CAN say I NEVER CHEATED. Go shove your comments up YOUR ass. Never said we were 'saintly'. I said we played by the rules. Plain and simple. But then you try to find something to pin on me about removing inactives... gtfo.

I'm confused... Are you saying illegal trades that created these 'great kingdoms' was in fact cheating? That's my point. Plain and simple. But instead of people admitting to the fact they try to bash and defelect to issue. Sad.

you are ****ty player sir. Deal with it.

Also Realest, I dont remember anyone mentioning your name in my kd so I have no idea who you are talking about...