Now that the final changes are out

[peteyb22]

i like:

1. avian
2. orc
3. dwarf
4. halfling
5. undead
6. human
7. elf
8. faery

although undead could potentially move up to #2 if played right

[kbone]

i think undead are being seriously underestimated

[coboss]

Dwarf and Orc or Orc and Dwarf are tied in first place.

LOL no it isn't... Anyone who chooses Dwarf even over Halfling doesn't understand game mechanics. Dwarf is horrible, even with it's 20% BE bonus. Even Halfling is better in almost every way.

i think undead are being seriously underestimated

Undead is a much better A/M than Elf. All else being equal, undeads only need <29% elites to be better attackers than Elf. Should be really easy considering the given conversion rate. Plus they have a better spellbook (chastity>PF).

[otokonoko]

1. Undead(more powerful than ever before, conversion rates are alot better)
2. Avian even though they are easy to cripple with magic
3. Dorf fog, only reason for them this high, starvation will be a big problem though
4. human should be able to maintain elites in war
5. orcs ment for short wars only
6. Halfling can be more better than hummies, dorfs and orcs in war, but not out of war. Best played as a back-up attacker
7. Elf the elite has been weakened but can still play as a back-up attack

[Lead Pipe]

undeads, who have a potential convert rate (under ideal conditions) of 20%

Not trying to hijack a thread, but what all will effect conversion rates?

[DHaran]

Not trying to hijack a thread, but what all will effect conversion rates?

It's basically tied into the gains formula, so hit close to your own NW and KDNW, and a province without GBP.

[Ordray]

Also based on the % of your offense that is elites and specs. Higher specs % gives higher conversion rate.

Also, after further thought, I'm going to revise my list a bit. Undead is a bit stronger than I had originally thought.

Orc
Avian
Undead/Human
Dwarf
Elf/Halfer

[DHaran]

Also based on the % of your offense that is elites and specs. Higher specs % gives higher conversion rate.

I would basically run virtually no defense for the first month and maintain a high % of off specs and convert as much as I can, then convert to a standard build and pwn people.

[Wallfly]

Elves are the best but I am going with UNDEAD purely because of preference not performance.

1. Elf
2. Undead
3. Orc
4. Dwarf
5. Avian
6. Faery

@Dwarf ( Age 49 )
Free Building Construction
Building Efficiency : +25% (was +20%)
No Accelerated Construction
Immunity to Fog
Specific Spellbook: Fog, Animate Dead
Inf: 1/1
Def: 0/5
Off: 5/0
Eli: 7/4 $800 6.0nw

~ vs ~

Dwarf ( Age 50 )
* + 20% BE
* Free Building Construction (accelerated not available)

* -20% thievery effectiveness
* food consumption doubled

Elite Unit – Berserker (7/4, $900, 6.0 nw)
Spell book: Fog, Animate Dead

[justhoop]

surely your trolling by saying elves are the best? :|

[Bishop]

Not trying to hijack a thread, but what all will effect conversion rates?

http://forums.joltonline.com/showthr...1#post15067566

[ostrichfarmer]

I rate it based on practicality and my preferences. It has nothing to do with numbers or trolls.

1. Halfling
2. Avian
3. Orc/undead
4. Human
5. Elf
6. Faery
7. Dwarf

I pity the dwarf. The only thing that appeals me to dwarf is fog. But now faery will have fog too, and dwarf no longer immune to fog.

[Ragnarok22788]

The best hybrid will be Faery A/T. The reason being that, unlike other hybrid attackers, Faery's self spells are excellent for defense and give it the ability to bounce any mage's spells about 50% of the time with only 1 WPA, have 4-5 hrs attack time advantage on opponents and make more money. Thievery, however, is Faery's stronger point for a hybrid simply because of the +1 to stealth, which, when combined with Rogue is +2 to stealth and allows for ridiculous amounts of ops.

[Heywatchthisguy]

Avian
Human/Orc
Halfling
Undead
Dwarf
Elf
Fae

[Kayani]

elves who still have excellent bonuses, despite the weak elite.

:( Elves are rubbish now :( They used to be able to attack. Not so much anymore. If you wanna do magic, might as well go Faery now :(