UF NEWS: Myrmidons take control of The Stronghold

[Danzig]

This is us:

Total attacks suffered: 177 (9,436 acres)
-- Traditional march: 53 (9,352 acres)
-- Ambush: 1 (84 acres)
-- Raze: 52 (1,019 acres)
-- Massacre: 25 (40,642 population)
-- Plunder: 6
-- Learn: 35

this is just mean of you guys but w/e:
-1,047 - Rodimus Prime (0/57)


you hit us while we opped you and did some hits back.
you hit us when we stopped attacking and only did ops.
you hit us when we stopped both ops AND attacks.

i mean i would love for a more experienced player to break this down for me. i dont see alot of options for us here.
today alone you razed us 15 times.... and we havent attacked you for 48 hours. havent done ops for 24 hours.

so yea we're just sitting here tanking hits from you. I assume eventually a larger KD will realize that you arent actually hostile with anyone and start waving you. Until then i'm at a loss for what to do. It has been fun though Boko, and you certainly are an active KD.... diplomacy isnt that fun when its so full of anger and threats, but if it works for you, then keep doing what works!

This would have been resolved easily if you would have accepted CF in the game, which I told you last night. You are the one who doesn't want a CF so stop complaining. You are wanting to drag out hostile without war so you are going to get hit.

[DDodge]

just stop. say things that are true or dont say anything at all.

[wild_turkey]

Are you an Indonesian troll as well? Can't believe I read your stupid post, you have terrible reading comprehension and you clearly have no idea what is going on. Reread the whole thread again, we already admitted our mistake and explained ourselves a while ago.

admitting a mistake includes an open apology.
it does not usually constitute of persistent self-justification and calling other people trolls, you are the troll here.
you are wrong and karma should kick you in the ass.
now shut up and admit that.

edit: stupid? terrible reading comprehension? this is MY view on the subject. again, like each post trying to point out your WRONGS, it IS refuted. even MadScottish who was trying to explicate an Idiom which was HIGHLY relevant is seen wrong here. This is funny since you guys said you admit you were wrong but did not do so in practice.

I'm not trying to be personal here, but I think my reading comprehension exceeds yours find a post which has a negative implication on your kingdom of which you admit openly and accept sincerely. I have trouble finding one.

[E_Boko]

the throbbing cock of justice is out. you are gonna have one dead faery sage count. one of your others players left because of your lying arse. keep it up and youre entire kingdom is going to have some and its going to leave a sour taste in your mouth.

apologize to me and my kingdom for lying, send a CF and i might go away. its very hard to stop the throbbing cock of justice once its out. it pulsates with anger

[DDodge]

u fool.... at no point in this entire farmfest did i/we lie.

you are literally OUT OF YOUR MIND. its disgusting. you guys are angry about farming us for 4 days? get real man.

i expected better from you. you had nothing but 100% honesty in our IRC convo and every single damn PM. i will have to assume ur trolling. And on that note absurdly arrogant. you've farmed us out, we haven't hit you for close to 60 hours now, and somehow you have convinced yourself you are justified in razing out our provinces.

11:59 E_Boko i may not want land
11:59 E_Boko i may have a province or 3 that needs to recoup sci
12:00 E_Boko land is artificial
12:00 DDodge we dont want to lose more science!
12:00 DDodge already lost a ****-ton
12:01 E_Boko i have a province at hand that netted -700K sci
12:01 E_Boko i know you netted more
12:01 E_Boko but still
12:01 DDodge yea but all your other ones gained a ton already
12:01 DDodge we're down in science terribly
12:01 E_Boko you retalled for 2 days now
12:01 E_Boko what did you think was gonna happen
12:02 E_Boko i cant leave this hostile until we get a war or until you make their sci right again



12:02 DDodge ok warring is obviously not an option for us we would get raped
12:03 DDodge ur science is UP though, doesnt make sense that you want more science
12:03 DDodge i mean from your perspective all you have done is gain as a KD from this
12:03 E_Boko one of my provinces is hurtin
12:04 DDodge if we just CF straight up you leave with land and science, and not having to worry about the hostile anymore
12:04 E_Boko let me see
12:04 DDodge we can both move on and find wars that are at our size
12:04 E_Boko but then i have to worry about enemy kingdoms
12:04 E_Boko we are the same size
12:04 E_Boko not many want to war us
12:04 E_Boko were*
12:05 DDodge true we were, but we were down 2 players
12:05 DDodge 1 inactive and 1 had to delete cause of real life
12:05 E_Boko someone quit/.
12:05 E_Boko ?

12:06 E_Boko all ops and attacks are not being done while we parley right?
12:06 DDodge oh i didnt order that yet, ill go do so
12:06 E_Boko yea
12:06 E_Boko for parleys
12:06 E_Boko no ops or attacks
12:07 E_Boko something to learn bout kingdoms
12:07 E_Boko in parley none of that happens. everything stands still until negotiations are throuhg
12:08 E_Boko blankets of MS and riots are not very keen to be seen when talking treaties
12:09 DDodge no one should be doing anything
12:10 E_Boko same
12:11 DDodge so listen, when i look at it from your perspective i would think you'd want to CF and get yourselves re-built for next war, which is what we seek
12:11 DDodge surely you dont want us sitting in fortified opping you for 3 more days
12:11 DDodge that doesnt benefit either of us
12:11 E_Boko well
12:12 E_Boko it benefits us until MAYBE fort fully kicks in
12:12 E_Boko takes 24 hours
12:12 E_Boko -2% gains every hour fyi
12:12 E_Boko from our end hitting yours
12:12 E_Boko you have automatically-50% gains
12:12 DDodge right
12:15 E_Boko discussing a few terms
12:15 DDodge if u guys had more honor when u waved us we probably would have warred u
12:15 DDodge and just withdrawn at min time





12:16 DDodge haha my kd came up with a term:
12:17 DDodge Rampage (TLU) work: as part of the deal, he has to praise us on the forums 12:14 Rampage (TLU) work: for three ages
12:17 DDodge lol
12:17 E_Boko we waved you at simliar NW
12:18 E_Boko not much else up here to wave
12:18 E_Boko didnt rampage suicide?
12:19 DDodge negative
12:19 E_Boko um
12:19 E_Boko yea
12:19 E_Boko sending out 31K brutes
12:19 E_Boko leaving 15K def specs at 500K
12:19 E_Boko thats a suicide
12:22 E_Boko so here is the negotiations
12:22 E_Boko 15 hrs
12:23 E_Boko no ops or attacks from ya. i accept CF in time, we move on, no deal breaking





12:23 DDodge and u continue to op and attack during that time?
12:23 E_Boko if you want to add anything to the deal after like no dragons and 48 hr notice to break CF let me know
12:23 E_Boko yes ddodge
12:24 E_Boko its basically a free wave
12:24 E_Boko and honor as tax
12:24 E_Boko minute honor
12:24 E_Boko you have fort kicking in
12:24 E_Boko less gains overall
12:24 E_Boko and gains oow is ****ty
12:24 E_Boko but still there





12:26 DDodge how did it go from 9 hours to 15 hours
12:27 E_Boko teammates
12:27 E_Boko its still only 1.2 waves technically
12:27 E_Boko most armies are out
12:27 E_Boko only 1-2 ppl will get in before the CF time runs out
12:28 E_Boko as of right now
12:28 E_Boko basically it will be 23 provinces hitting
12:28 E_Boko a wave
12:28 E_Boko since faeries suck
12:28 E_Boko 22 sry
12:29 E_Boko expect 22 uniquest
12:29 E_Boko thats all
12:29 E_Boko then i accept
12:29 E_Boko uniques*
12:29 DDodge sec





12:36 DDodge its basically either we give you a free wave and take cf.... or we continue fighting and in 12 hours we have full fortified bonus anyways
12:36 E_Boko well
12:36 E_Boko just remember my orcs can hit over cap on gains
12:36 E_Boko while yours cant
12:37 E_Boko and i got some pretty pissed off guys
12:37 DDodge why would they be pissed, you've been raping us
12:37 E_Boko its the actions dude
12:37 E_Boko opping is not "nice"
12:37 DDodge attacking is far less "nice"
12:37 E_Boko and ofc retalling however lightly is still aggressive
12:38 DDodge if anything we should be the ones pissed off
12:39 DDodge no one here is though
12:42 DDodge anyways this is new to me. i've never asked or expected a kd to just sit there while we attack them
12:42 E_Boko aaaa
12:46 E_Boko so yes
12:46 E_Boko 15 hours
12:46 E_Boko no ops
12:46 E_Boko no attacks from yall
12:46 E_Boko ill accept CF in due time
12:47 E_Boko at the 15th hour





12:47 DDodge we want CF straight up, dont want to keep getting hit
12:47 E_Boko not an option tbh
12:47 DDodge we have nothing to gain from giving u a free wave.....
12:47 DDodge or maybe u can explain it better to me
12:47 E_Boko you have a lot more to lose from not giving us a free wae
12:48 E_Boko we can massacre the faeries to 50K def, then quad tap them, then massacre the elves to control MS, then just max gain everything else
12:49 DDodge but why would u waste ur time doing that
12:49 DDodge we arent going to hit the button
12:49 DDodge so its just 5 days of u massacring and razing us
12:49 DDodge with no war
12:50 E_Boko yep
12:50 E_Boko you lose a lot more then we do
12:50 DDodge yea but why waste ur time doing that
12:50 E_Boko we waved for war or resources
12:50 E_Boko we wont get war
12:50 DDodge instead of moving on



12:50 E_Boko we need resources then
12:50 DDodge yea u got resources already
12:50 E_Boko simple really
12:50 DDodge you already gained land/science from us
12:50 E_Boko interest
12:51 DDodge u already got resources
12:51 E_Boko trust me when i say im being leniant
12:51 E_Boko other kingdoms would do far worse...and ive seen it
12:51 E_Boko pulse, force, rage, dreams, are not easy kingdoms to negotiate with
12:52 DDodge we have cfs with all of them
12:52 DDodge they were nice
12:52 DDodge this is new
12:52 DDodge u already gained from us, yet ur still demanding a free wave or else going to destroy us further
12:53 E_Boko if you gave up a free wave to begin with
12:53 E_Boko this wouldnt have happened



12:54 DDodge but how does it benefit you to continue
12:55 DDodge we seek wars, not retal wars
12:55 E_Boko aaaa
12:55 E_Boko well it does benefit us in the long run
12:55 DDodge i would think you would have an interest in a real war soon
12:55 E_Boko for a few reason
12:55 E_Boko in case you war we diminish your faeries and elves
12:56 E_Boko in case of no war we diminish ops
12:56 E_Boko and then quad learn your faery sage
12:56 E_Boko then kill it to reduce its effectiveness
12:56 E_Boko after that its just a resource farm
12:56 E_Boko whoever has most sci gets targeted
12:56 E_Boko have orcs outgain your attacks





12:56 DDodge and that is how you want to spend ur age?
12:56 E_Boko and just gain more and more
12:57 E_Boko no
12:57 E_Boko but ill do it
12:57 E_Boko i dont want to
12:57 E_Boko but if you cant concede something
12:57 E_Boko then yea...
12:57 DDodge 5k acres and a ****-load of science isnt conceding something?
12:58 E_Boko considering the pain you will put us through
12:58 E_Boko no
12:59 DDodge what do u mean we "will" put you through
12:59 E_Boko there will be pain post this hostility tbh
12:59 E_Boko there is no more FW
12:59 E_Boko cant just FW and train into acres and build back up
12:59 E_Boko gonna be a battle with other kingdoms post this hostility
13:00 E_Boko luckily most kingdoms respect hostility tag
13:00 E_Boko as long as hostile is valid
13:00 DDodge so wouldnt it benefit you to get out of it sooner rather than later?
13:01 E_Boko no
13:02 E_Boko not if i gain more
13:02 E_Boko cause the gains will escalate as this progresses
13:02 E_Boko orc sages are ftw unlike what your dude in the forum thinks
13:02 E_Boko 1 wave is like 500K sci and 1K acres
13:02 E_Boko nothing



13:04 DDodge i stopped reading the forums ^_^
13:04 E_Boko hee
13:04 E_Boko just know its bad to accept and break CF
13:05 DDodge hurt my feelings too much
13:05 E_Boko rage just did it on someone
13:05 E_Boko not good things
13:05 E_Boko force hits into hostilies
13:05 E_Boko not a a good thing
13:05 E_Boko this is why kingdoms hide for like 4-6 weeks
13:05 E_Boko so ppl dont catch up to them and smack them silly
13:05 E_Boko for the dumb **** they do
13:06 DDodge yea once they are huge they make their own rules apparently
13:06 E_Boko not really
13:07 E_Boko but in a way
13:07 E_Boko there is a utopian code of conduct amongst players
13:07 E_Boko it may vary slightly from kingdom to kingdom
13:07 E_Boko and you may be able to get away with stuff at certain levels
13:07 E_Boko but it all catches up to you at some point
13:13 DDodge allright well our offer of straight up CF is still there. i guess we'll have to size things up again after ur next wave i guess?
13:13 DDodge anyways thanks for your time
13:14 DDodge order an end to parlay???
13:14 E_Boko youre going to continue ops and attacks?
13:14 E_Boko i am a man of my word
13:15 E_Boko ill give you 14 ticks (15 ticks since i first asked but time elapsed) since i know ya
13:15 E_Boko same amount of time i want for one more unique
13:16 DDodge we just cant agree to that, our whole kd would be very upset about giving free waves
13:16 DDodge so if u still think its beneficial to beat on us i suppose we will have to learn the hard way



then he starts talking about the water cycle...

13:16 E_Boko i sense a bit condensacion
13:17 DDodge sorry... "condensacion"
13:17 DDodge ?
13:18 E_Boko like condescendin
13:18 E_Boko g
13:19 DDodge thats spanish for "the change of the physical state of matter from gaseous phase into liquid phase"
13:19 E_Boko just using it as a adverb instead of adjective
13:19 E_Boko naw
13:19 DDodge yea not being condescending
13:20 E_Boko lol
13:20 DDodge haha
13:20 E_Boko i mean i could say
13:20 DDodge ive been very honest
13:20 E_Boko i sense a bit of a condescending attitude
13:20 E_Boko but thats too long
13:20 E_Boko why cant i say i sense a bit of condescention?
13:20 E_Boko maybe thats it
13:20 DDodge no attitude here just trying for a good decision
13:20 DDodge yeah i think thats it
13:21 E_Boko condeesscension
13:21 E_Boko condesescension
13:21 E_Boko condescension
13:21 E_Boko rather
13:21 E_Boko anyway
13:21 E_Boko blah
13:21 E_Boko tired
13:22 DDodge yea i mean i hate that you plan to massacre and stuff but if the plan works in your favor i suppose its worth doing
13:22 E_Boko faeries def falls fast
13:23 E_Boko and its one less nuisance to worry bout
13:23 DDodge but like i said why kill the faeries
13:23 E_Boko one free wave is worth less then later on dude
13:23 DDodge yea but u could have 23 less nuisances to worry about
13:23 E_Boko cause all your doing is ops and they have science
13:24 E_Boko so reduce threat and then take science?
13:24 DDodge allright imma grab some lunch with my buddies
13:25 DDodge none of this is in any sort of angry or hostile way just fyi
13:25 DDodge just fighting back the best we can
13:25 DDodge so im not being sarcastic when i say.... all the best bro!
13:25 DDodge im sure we'll talk later

13:26 E_Boko we could always arrange a FW....

[E_Boko]

That's not an apology. Just an affirmation of you're failure to comprehend us hitting you, you don't hit back, we cf and move on. The throbbing cock of justice will continue to pulsate

[E_Boko]

Also if you don't accept terms, don't be surprised with the consequences. These are the consequences. You reap what you sow right?

[Cxtian]

I believe Myrmidons already learned a lesson from their action. Let them move on.
E_Boko, come war Fluffylicious instead and stop making the issue with Myrmidons to avoid the bunnies.

[E_Boko]

Obviously not. I see neither apology nor CF.

And I ate your wave alrdy fluffy while im wrapping up this hostile. I think you can move on now :-P

[Danzig]

It is really pretty simple. IF you get waved and don't want to war don't hit back. Agree to a Cf and move on. That's how most kingdoms operate. When you hit back and op then expect to be hit some more. We don't leave a hostile kingdom with the button on us behind. Here is your message to me saying you won't accept a CF. Now when your province dies here shortly you can explain to him you refused to end this whole thing. As you posted above you guys are having fun.

Game Date April 13 of YR6
Real Date Fri, 16 Dec at 06:21 GMT+00:00
Sender King Dan the Blessed of Optimus Prime (x)
Recipient Knight Zigdan the Blessed of how Im feeling (x)
Subject Look

Look, we will stop all ops on you, all hits, and let you carry on.



Im not accepting a CF because based on the amount of threats and bullying you have done theres a 99% chance you will break it and continue farming us.



I am hereby ordering all ops to stop (hits have already been stopped long ago)... and i hope you wont keep hitting into us. Thats really all i can do.

[Zidane]

This is what Myrmidons failed to Understand ...

When a Kingdom don't want WAR ... they clearly show their intention by :
- Not retaling
- Negotiate than Propose the CF in paper first ...
- Eat the Wave while waiting the CF to be accepted ...

NOT BY retaling with hits and ops everyday not offering the CF in paper and wait to be accepted ... but keep saying they don't want WAR but dont want CF also
( I want to keep The WAR button Alive ... but I told you I don't Want WAR )

Can someone please explain this to Them

[E_Boko]

This wasn't a bottom feeding exercise and he's "not letting a huge kingdom take advantage of him". We started this similar in NW. We wave for war and they retale. That's aggressive action saying you would war and want to have hostilities. FINE. No problem. But then you say no war, no CF while conceding a wave free of retales or ops after we drop you a mil in NW. Not how it works here sorry. You failed the hostile and realized we were better. Now you give me something free of charge or this happens. I don't leave the meter running.

I understand you're not a match for us but don't be that lil kid poking a bear and cry rape after the matter. These are the consequences of your action.

[Danzig]

bear rape should not be taken lightly. There should be a law against it.

[Zidane]

Let explain this a bit more simple for Myrmidons ...

Hostile - Hostile Relation --> No WAR meaning CF
Hostile - Hostile Relation --> No CF meaning WAR

Why you make this complicated ...

[DDodge]

Whatever the hell you guys have twisted this around to boils down to one thing. you are bombarding a KD with razes that is clearly not returning any hits (almost 3 days now).

i know you are trying to justify it but thats the facts.

i got quoted as saying:

"Look, we will stop all ops on you, all hits, and let you carry on.

Im not accepting a CF because based on the amount of threats and bullying you have done theres a 99% chance you will break it and continue farming us.

I am hereby ordering all ops to stop (hits have already been stopped long ago)... and i hope you wont keep hitting into us. Thats really all i can do. "


DUH. Of course i said that. what in the world are you trying to prove? After i sent that message you have sent OVER 30 HITS INTO US.

can you be trusted? no.

have fun razing a kingdom that doesnt give a damn for the rest of the age. we're used to being outside the top 100 so if you are so arrogant you feel the need to raze us out that hard go for it. we will be chilling and trying to line up a FUN war with someone our size while you tool around acting like a powerhouse.