UF NEWS: Myrmidons take control of The Stronghold

[nive]

You weren't down 4 players. You had 1 inactive plus needing to fill in one province we also had one inactive. You were down another province because we killed him in hostile and he had to reset. You had a 500 acre province because we also razed him down in hostile. You had like 7 unbreakable provinces when war started plus the first wave on us with us having no incoming land. On top of that Fluffy waved us twice while we were hostile to you. So basically we fought 24 versus 23 provinces.

the hostile portion where we didn't attack at all? who exactly was your inactive, was it a faery who would log on occasionally to use up mana and stealth? when i say inactive player i am referring to someone who hasn't logged on for weeks now and who pretty much quit this game and just stockpiled gc for you guys to plunder. not someone who wasn't fully active during the war. we had plenty of guys who couldn't log on for a day, one of our big halfers actually was at a wedding and missed the first 36 hours of war but im not including him in all this because that's different. hope i am not confusing you.

you won a war fighting a smaller kingdom 22 v 25 after they came out of a war. you guys didn't outplay anyone, more like outbullied for a pointless war win. at least we enjoyed the war, hope you did too.

[Danzig]

the hostile portion where we didn't attack at all? who exactly was your inactive, was it a faery who would log on occasionally to use up mana and stealth? when i say inactive player i am referring to someone who hasn't logged on for weeks now and who pretty much quit this game and just stockpiled gc for you guys to plunder. not someone who wasn't fully active during the war. we had plenty of guys who couldn't log on for a day, one of our big halfers actually was at a wedding and missed the first 36 hours of war but im not including him in all this because that's different. hope i am not confusing you.

you won a war fighting a smaller kingdom 22 v 25 after they came out of a war. you guys didn't outplay anyone, more like outbullied for a pointless war win. at least we enjoyed the war, hope you did too.

Actually you were not bullied. Both kingdoms started with about the same NW during hostile and both kingdoms were the same land size when you pushed the button. If you didn't want to war all your king had to do was offer to CF. You tried to fight a retal war against a kingdom your same size and ended up losing big. We beat you down despite the fact we were also being waved by another kingdom twice prior to you hitting the button.

[aremarf]

If you didn't want to war all your king had to do was offer to CF.

Somehow I doubt it. (Based on my impressions of the way people talked.) Just my 2 cents. :-)

Interesting war - I look forward to reading the details. The game is won by activity more than by strategy isn't it? (i.e. it's much more advantageous to invest X hours in improving activity than X hours in improving strategy.) Another inference we might make is - the players at the top aren't the most skillful - but rather those who are most willing to spend time on the game. Hmmmm.

[nive]

Actually you were not bullied. Both kingdoms started with about the same NW during hostile and both kingdoms were the same land size when you pushed the button. If you didn't want to war all your king had to do was offer to CF. You tried to fight a retal war against a kingdom your same size and ended up losing big. We beat you down despite the fact we were also being waved by another kingdom twice prior to you hitting the button.

we fought a retal war for a bit because boko refused to CF unless we let you guys farm us out for 24 hours and do mass learns on us as well. this was after you hit us for a lot more land and science than we hit you for. then for another day and a half you started to spam razes on our guys while we didn't hit back at all and tried to get a CF. also being waved is not a big deal as you should be aware, it just helps your percentages if anything.

you had 4 more able provinces to start the war and that's all it takes to win a war in this game. yes strategy can play a big part in it, but if anything i can make the argument we had the better strategy and play, unfortunately we were down far too many to start the war. one of the reasons we went into this war was to try to learn from it and become a stronger kingdom, and we should definitely war again sometime when we have 25 strong. i know where to find boko so we'll get a rematch sometime.

[aremarf]

... we should definitely war again sometime when we have 25 strong. i know where to find boko so we'll get a rematch sometime.

Please try to get it reported in the News when it happens. I am curious! :-)

[Tha Legend]

Nive - your monarch was online, we offer CF as had been agreed upon, he hops offline (there was 6 hours of no attacks as we waited for DDodge to hop on so we could CF), then attackers flood us with complaints of MS, etc. The we get two full waves from fluffy who focuses only on our heavy attackers, then you press the button, and your supreme turtle strat failed miserably. We had 13 provinces between your turtles and your attackers. When one of your genius provinces WSed, he got dropped. When one of your big provs razed and failed an attack, he got dropped. When one of your big guys manned up to hit a province near his size, it got dropped. See a pattern? maybe if your turtle halfers spent more time trying to take down the orcs from the top and less time eating MS and 5-tapping land defense provs, the war might have ended differently.

[E_Boko]

we fought a retal war for a bit because boko refused to CF unless we let you guys farm us out for 24 hours and do mass learns on us as well. this was after you hit us for a lot more land and science than we hit you for. then for another day and a half you started to spam razes on our guys while we didn't hit back at all and tried to get a CF. also being waved is not a big deal as you should be aware, it just helps your percentages if anything.

you had 4 more able provinces to start the war and that's all it takes to win a war in this game. yes strategy can play a big part in it, but if anything i can make the argument we had the better strategy and play, unfortunately we were down far too many to start the war. one of the reasons we went into this war was to try to learn from it and become a stronger kingdom, and we should definitely war again sometime when we have 25 strong. i know where to find boko so we'll get a rematch sometime.

i asked for one wave. not 24 hrs of farming. it was a mix of learns and marches that were sent during the 12 hrs yall had to stop everything and then accept CF.

started razing when you didnt show up to accept CF and then continued to op again.

[nive]

Nive - your monarch was online, we offer CF as had been agreed upon, he hops offline (there was 6 hours of no attacks as we waited for DDodge to hop on so we could CF), then attackers flood us with complaints of MS, etc. The we get two full waves from fluffy who focuses only on our heavy attackers, then you press the button, and your supreme turtle strat failed miserably. We had 13 provinces between your turtles and your attackers. When one of your genius provinces WSed, he got dropped. When one of your big provs razed and failed an attack, he got dropped. When one of your big guys manned up to hit a province near his size, it got dropped. See a pattern? maybe if your turtle halfers spent more time trying to take down the orcs from the top and less time eating MS and 5-tapping land defense provs, the war might have ended differently.

you are right if our big guys played a bit differently we might have had a much longer war that would have ended in our favour. this was a good learning experience for some of our newer players.

and if we were not down 3 able attackers and our count faery during the war, then things for sure would have been different :s

ohhh ya i went there. anyway boys enjoy the holiday season, and good luck with the rest of the age.

[DDodge]

Boko honestly i'm sick of you lying. You already got ur 10k acres and 8k honor that you "humped" last page in great sportsmanship. You had a free wave from us, then we opped you after that, and THEN YOU HAD 96 hours of non-retaliated hits into us. you ignored all PMs from me trying to make peace.
You were sent numerous messages you ignored, while you posted non-sense about the throbbing cock of justice and continued razing, heres a couple i went back to find:

@the start of your 96 hours free hits:

"Sender King Dan the Blessed of Optimus Prime (X:XX)
Recipient King Sleeper the Sorcerer of Were no strangers to love (X:XX)
Subject boko

after all the **** you have done to us.... we are clearly not retalling ANYTHING at this point. razing our faery isnt doing anything except making u look like you are on a power trip.



you have nothing to prove to us. we are seeking war with a smaller KD. check our news we are simply randoming around to try and get re-built.

i would urge you to lay off because at this point its over-kill. theres no excuse for "anger" or being pissed off, you have farmed us and destroyed us. why continue beating us down

im on irc if u are interested."


Me attempting to speak to your other players after you ignored CF request and continued razing:

"Sender King Dan the Blessed of Optimus Prime (X:XX)
Recipient The Wealthy Lord Rick Astley of You wouldnt get this (X:XX)
Subject Re:ready for cf?

Look, we will stop all ops on you, all hits, and let you do whatever you desire.



Im not accepting a CF because based on the amount of threats and bullying Boko has done theres a 99% chance he will break it and continue farming us.



I am hereby ordering all ops to stop (hits have already been stopped long ago)... and i hope you wont keep hitting into us. Thats really all i can do."


and of course, my desperate attempt for you to stop, subject line: Please...

"Sender King Dan the Blessed of Optimus Prime (X:XX)
Recipient King Sleeper the Sorcerer of Were no strangers to love (X:XX)
Subject Please...

Dont kill off rodimus prime. Hes a great guy and we all don't want to see him razed out. You have had multiple days of free waves now. Would u be able to give me your word that you wouldn't break a cf, and that we cf till eoa? Its hard to trust you after all the lies but we really need to resolve things at this point."

96 hours of being ignored and raze killed led to us pushing the button out of desperation, and so we could at least have some fun. I dont give a damn that you won, and would love to have simply said good for you guys. I dont care that you bullied us into it, thats part of the game (see: Us against SH).
But after all that transpired leading up to your win, you still continue to LIE and to **** talk us.

At least man the hell up and admit your actions, you got a WW after all right? at least then people could have respect for you. You lied to me, my kingdom, your OWN kingdom (who seems like an awesome group of dudes... great sportsmanship too), and continue lying to the community.

I feel great about everything that my KD and I did. We were honest throughout all of it, and although i was tempted to try and get other kingdoms to help us by waving you, we refrained. We fought you straight up with 24 provinces, 2 of which were fully inactive and one inactive for over half the war. We had fun and there's much love amongst ourselves in our KD. We lost a war, we will learn and move on. This WOULD be the part where we congratulate you.... but you are a filthy liar and its impossible to have any respect for you.

[E_Boko]

do i really need to break out the news reports? sigh. lol

[E_Boko]

First attack of initial wave

January 8 of YR6 how Im feeling (ICE) invaded and stole from Rodimus Prime (Myr).

First retale by your kingdom

January 12 of YR6 Scorponok (Myr) attacked and stole from I just wanna tell you (ICE).

continued retales that led to us thinking you would war us and therefor we wanted to control the bottom better by doing this

February 7 of YR6 Smashington (Myr) attacked and stole from what Im thinking of (6:27).
February 8 of YR6 A full commitments (ICE) invaded JeTFiRe (Myr) and razed 15 acres of

This went back and forth

March 8 of YR6 Reflector (Myr) invaded You down (ICE) and captured 102 acres of land.

until this happened

March 24 of YR6 E vil M ing P ower (Fluffy) invaded and so do i (ICE) and captured 337 acres of land.
March 24 of YR6 E vil M ing P ower (Fluffy) attacked and stole from A full commitments (ICE).
March 24 of YR6 Here since Age 50 (Fluffy) invaded Never Gonna Give (ICE) and captured 280 acres of land.
March 24 of YR6 Fluffylicious (Fluffy) has proposed a formal ceasefire with our kingdom.
March 24 of YR6 We have entered into a formal ceasefire with Fluffylicious (Fluffy).

this is when i get your message that you would stop all hits and then i agreed to wave ya once more for all the heart ache and then go to war fluffy.

however my guys received ops and blankets of crap throughout April. I didnt know and sent this

April 6 of YR6 We have proposed a ceasefire offer to Myrmidons NO WAR (Myr).

I was expecting you to come on the 23rd of may and send CF but i didnt see you nor did you send me CF in those 12 hours of no retales from ya. when i found out you blanket my kingdom with ops i canceled the CF and went back to hunting

first attack since you kept oping was this from us

May 1 of YR6 Were no strangers to love (ICE) invaded Rodimus Prime (Myr) and razed 78 acres of land.

and that was the beginning of the end for that faery sage which you could have stopped if you sent a CF over.

first hit from fluffy

May 4 of YR6 An unknown province from Fluffylicious (Fluffy) invaded A full commitments (ICE) and captured 135 acres of land.

last hit from fluffy which was about 1.5 waves

May 23 of YR6 Nuff nuff (Fluffy) invaded Never gonna let (ICE) and captured 150 acres of land.
May 23 of YR6 We have proposed a ceasefire offer to Fluffylicious bussy (Fluffy).
May 23 of YR6 Fluffylicious bussy (Fluffy) has accepted our ceasefire proposal!

death of faery

June 3 of YR6 and desert you (ICE) invaded Rodimus Prime (Myr) and razed 9 acres of land.

war

June 9 of YR6 Myrmidons MAN DOWN (Myr) has declared WAR with our kingdom!


so tell me again. your last hit on us was march 8th. your last op on us was ~april 10th. you declared on us on june 9th. where the hell do you see 96 hours of no action from ya?

i never got that dont kill rodimus message btw. ima look through my mail folder but 2 things. 1) do not click on the sent messages you sent or else ill never know you sent a new one. 2) SEND THE GOD DAMN CF OVER TO LET ME KNOW YOU ARE GOD DAMN SERIOUS BOUT SAVING A PROVINCE OF YOURS NUB! i dont break CFs and i dont leave open hostilities. thems the rules. if you dont know how to play with others well thats your fault and you will learn the hard way what happens.

[aremarf]

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What?! My eyes hurt... Dude, you're not making a strong case for yourself.

1. Most people (like me) might not care enough about you to wade through your (lack of) formatting, i.e. visual layout, organisation of information, punctuation and capitals.

2. I tend to believe the guy who can spell and sort his info out properly more than the guy who can't - just like Godly prefers to hire lawyers who can spell, c.f. Dec chatlogs.

EDIT: that might have been too brief - you're at risk of losing your "ethos" - the view readers have of you, what kind of person you are, how credible you are, etc. Well - we can all make our choices - I think you're really gangsta and I wouldn't mess with you in real life - but I'll laugh at you from behind my monitor. :-D

[aremarf]

"... we are clearly not retalling ANYTHING at this point. razing our faery isnt doing anything except making u look like you are on a power trip."

My opinion is that he is on a power trip - and needs taking down a rung or two (not necessarily in-game, which is why I'm typing here to heap some scorn on him). Sadly - like I've always said - online war games are like Lord of the Flies. You always have Jack Merridews who shatter Ralph's sets of glasses and kill Simons. If it's any comfort, they tend to be ashamed when their dirty deeds are uncovered by the Naval Officer who rescues them from the desert island.

[Drosta]

aremarf: imho you seem to be rather biased against E_Boko. I don't see how his paper is harder to read than DDodge message cyclus.

The main issue is that both stories conflict. DDodge says they have been sitting duck while being ignored in CF negotations while E_Boko states that they keep retalling for ops blankets or other retals combined with no in-game CF.

In my opinion, DDodge did seek to find a resolution to end the situation. Although I can understand that as a kingdom that wants CF it is not beneficial to the peace making process if some kingdom mates make retals / cast spells, after 5 days or so of constant attacking / Forcing CF I would let it slide. Most likely it was a strategic move on E_Boko's part to pursue rather draconic measures against the retals of DDodge's kingdom as an attempt to stay in active hostile and not having to war Fluffylicious.

I still say DDodge should've just sent that CF. At one point you really had nothing more to lose and it would pull Icey out of active hostile. You guys decide to war instead and you are happy with the results so I suppose one can't complain.

I feel this thread is never going to end

[aremarf]

Hi there!

I'm just a ghetto noob looking at the drama in the big leagues - I'm not with the Truth and Reconciliation Committee or things like that (i.e. I'm not here to right wrongs or obtain justice). I think you probably have a better handle on the strategy side of things too. I just want to show my dislike for people like E Boko (who talk like thugs), because of bad experiences with them in various games. Just because they're on top doesn't mean they have to let that "power" get to their heads. Furthermore, DDodge has been rather well-spoken, hasn't he? That's a good thing, in my book.

Anyway - it's just my single person's opinion, and my opinion shouldn't matter to the bigwigs over here... I'm just messing around in the ghetto and will never affect your gaming experience (except when you farm me during the first couple of weeks).