Acres

[Anri]

We are getting played hard!!!

Sender King Mythos the Sorcerer of From Now On It (Simians/Anri)
Recipient The Wealthy King Pteropodidae of Yoda Bat (Sanctuary/Jdorje)
Subject Re:hi
I wish for each KD to handle thier own diplomacy like you and Csarmi have been doing.

> The Wealthy King Pteropodidae of Yoda Bat (Sanctuary/Jdorje) said: > > do you want to cf hoh and acres as well? or would you like to take it to war with acres?

Sender The Wealthy King Pteropodidae of Yoda Bat (x:x)
Recipient King Mythos the Sorcerer of From Now On It (x:x)
Subject hi
We're going to kill hellrazor, and it'll be a permakill due to the land dropping.

It's up to you whether we permakill calle first or if hellrazor deletes and we can then all move on with our lives. We can ceasefire once hellrazor is dead.

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February 24 of YR11 Sanctuary vs Simians () has proposed a formal ceasefire with our kingdom.
February 24 of YR11 We have entered into a formal ceasefire with Sanctuary vs Simians ().

March 4 of YR11 Sanctuary vs Simians () has broken their ceasefire agreement with us!

Followed with Massacre

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Sender King Mythos the Sorcerer of From Now On It (Simians/Anri)
Recipient The Wealthy King Csarmi of No need to argue (Csarmi)
Subject Re:EoA nap?
i accepted cf with sanc. were going 1 vs 1 on acres atm. Its a problem concerning you? > The Wealthy King Csarmi of No need to argue (8:32) said: > >

Actually, I'll need to wait for the others. But we didn't have much other interest in it as raising those two guys anyway...

> King Mythos the Sorcerer of From Now On It () said: > > > > Yes, No?


I can send CF. We wanna move on from all of this and decaying out is pointless.

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Csarmi said on these boards that we could CF til EoA.

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Game Date March 3 of YR11
Real Date Sun, 28 Oct at 20:30 GMT+00:00
Sender King Mythos the Sorcerer of From Now On It (Simians/Anri)
Recipient The Wealthy King Goku of Nick_Mi (Acres)
Subject Re:Are we taking this to war or do you want to cf?
We dont require a cf from your kd. > The Wealthy King Goku of Nick_Mi (Acres) said: > > ?

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There is loggs with PS and AquaSeaFoam also about GB will pick up again if we target Acres.

I however think we have the fullest right to target them without getting ganged by 4 kds plus randoms.

See earlier post i made with Nick_Mi convo about Simians and how he wanted to war us.

I think this is powerplay in worst way possible.

[Anri]

Acres 106k acres and 16.6 mill nw
Simians 75k acres and 11.2 mill nw

Acres have several UBs and #1 bank on the server.

Acres started on 120k acres when we made first attack into them.
Simians was down at 70k acres at this moment.

We been gangbanged for maybe 6 days now. I lost track. We had MS constantly for well over a week now. We had 2 provs killed and we been hit overall with a mixture of hits.

PS went into Acres and took over from what i know. Its very unlikely they are disbanding and i dont know why Acres said that.

They wanted war and they had all advantages in the world all ready. I dont see how absalom can even claim for us to CF a KD that is not absalom themselfs. I dont know how they can force Csarmi to not CF us because they say so when Csarmi claims he is not absalom. I dont see a reason for them to continue GB at all. They all ready broken CF treatys and they all ready broke their word and they all ready killed the ones they said they would kill.

Acres cant go 1 vs 1 on Simians now?

Seriously...

[Anri]

It came to my understanding that Acres was waved by The Ancients.

How and why is it that KDs taking part of GB goes free from all possible actions others can do to them? They threaten with action/treatment on everyone that hits them.

Most certainly a new lowest level for absalom players that claim its a hostile break and can decide what constitutes hostile and what doesnt. Secret advices of what should be done and what should happen else...
How can they decide who hits who and threatens anyone that hits them with actions. "Do what you think is right, but expect it to be done to you also".

I dont think this is the least right.

But id like to discuss if it is a hostile break or not if a KD hits another KD that is currently gbing another KD with multiply other KDs.

EDIT: Different players from "abs" kds told this. They may or may not speak for abs. Just to make that clear.

[MrC-TheAncients]

This does seem abit strange though? Putting aside your feelings towards anri/simians, doesn't this strike everyone as being a tad too much powerplay? I am not taking sides here, but if Sanc/csarmi did this to RK/PK Calle+HZ and thats already done, why are they insisting on securing CFs for all parties involved? I was recently told that Acres vs Simians was the actual hostile now, so both kds were immune to being waved - so i dont understand why Sanc would try to force Simians into CFing a kd they want to war, and from i read on IRC, Acres wants to war Simians aswell.
I was also told to not drag old stuff into a specific event, so i disregard what Simians did to deserve the GB in the first place, and look only on the CF issue presented. Just to clarify.

[protector]

But they all ready gangbanged us and killed Calle and Hellrazor. Jdorje himself said this was the goal of the GB and that it would end after it.
This is however not the case. Nick_Mi demanded war and now absalom says they will continue to hit us if we dont CF all involved.

One day he says he wants war, when backup is removed and we wont be razed into war we aim for the war and then there must be a CF else abs continue to GB us.

So people get to do what they want for as long as they want. Sanctuary sent a CF that we accepted, broke it and hit us again.

Nick_Mi asked for a CF or war. I told him we dont want CF = We gonna war them

Csarmi said we could CF til EoA. I told him this is ok and we can CF.

All CFs withdrawn and ops/hits continue just because we want to war Acres when they asked us to war them and said we would not be able to war them and talked on and on about how pussy and much crap Simians is.

This really smells...

I replied to calle as to how I think his (Nick_mi's/Acres) reasons to break your NAP are understandable. There was no reason to think you'd play honorable against him when you already played dirty against csarmi.
I'm not quite sure what Sanc has to do with it so I don't really know why they CFed you and then broke it. Perhaps for the same reasons, I dunno.

[csarmi]

Anri, as far as I know, Acres only entered the GB for the razekills. They never intended to fight your kingdom.
I can only share my PoV here.

It's very simple. I'm responsible for Acres being brought in for the razes on Calle + HellRazor (whether I have anything to do with them being brought in or not is irrelevant here).
Thus, I'm responsible for them being opped and trad marched by you - for the hostile status and the potential war button, in effect.
You wouldn't have a war threat over them, if they didn't participate in the razekills. They also wouldn't have a bank FB'd down to 20k peasants.

All those are direct effects of them joining the fray.

Thus, I can't accept a CF right now because that would mean abandoning them.

Things would be very different if they initiated hostile on you (they didn't) or if they didn't make it clear that they would wish the slates clean (which is a reasonable thing to ask).
You wanna hostile them? Fine. Offer an ingame CF to them, clear the meter and wave them. Just like you did with Sanc.
Signing an in-game CF agreement means that you're willing to clear the hostile meter, no more and no less. It was a very decent thing from you that you did so.

Personally, I believe that it would be a fun fight and you guys SHOULD be able to fight without interference. But that's irrelevant here.

I just do the right thing. My opinions and preferences don't matter here.

[Anri]

Its going to far Prot but its okey if you want to agree with what abs and allies is currently doing towards Simians.

[Acres]

Acres 106k acres and 16.6 mill nw
Simians 75k acres and 11.2 mill nw

Acres have several UBs and #1 bank on the server.

Acres started on 120k acres when we made first attack into them.
Simians was down at 70k acres at this moment.

We been gangbanged for maybe 6 days now. I lost track. We had MS constantly for well over a week now. We had 2 provs killed and we been hit overall with a mixture of hits.

PS went into Acres and took over from what i know. Its very unlikely they are disbanding and i dont know why Acres said that.

They wanted war and they had all advantages in the world all ready. I dont see how absalom can even claim for us to CF a KD that is not absalom themselfs. I dont know how they can force Csarmi to not CF us because they say so when Csarmi claims he is not absalom. I dont see a reason for them to continue GB at all. They all ready broken CF treatys and they all ready broke their word and they all ready killed the ones they said they would kill.

Acres cant go 1 vs 1 on Simians now?

Seriously...

Acres players are not disbanding. The kd name will no longer exist as several core players will be leaving, and new players coming in; reformation of kingdom with a new name.

& i will correct you on this, Acres lost 3 players with average size of 4k acres per province. you guys did not take 14k acres from Acres.

PS did not take over Acres, PS was in acres for almost 2-3 weeks now as i remember. PS was recommended by me for playing a role in the kd, to set ground for the kd to step on before i left.

[Anri]

Acres players are not disbanding. The kd name will no longer exist as several core players will be leaving, and new players coming in; reformation of kingdom with a new name.

& i will correct you on this, Acres lost 3 players with average size of 4k acres per province. you guys did not take 14k acres from Acres.

PS did not take over Acres, PS was in acres for almost 2-3 weeks now as i remember. PS was recommended by me for playing a role in the kd, to set ground for the kd to step on before i left.

PS took over diplomacy, excuse me i took for granted he took over leadership also.

You were 120k acres when we started to hit you. I think the players was gone before we started to retal. You continuesly lost acres to Simians and other KDs it seems.
It doesnt matter thou, i did only point out the current size is ok for both to war each other.

EDIT: If you check my post i pointed out that simians was 70k acres and now 75k acres. The only ones we have hit is Acres. The acres must come from you.
I could go take a summary and id say the summary would say maybe 7-8k acres up to our side vs your KD. Must i check?
The point is you are very able to war us and demanded war from us.

[Acres]

PS took over diplomacy, excuse me i took for granted he took over leadership also.

You were 120k acres when we started to hit you. I think the players was gone before we started to retal. You continuesly lost acres to Simians and other KDs it seems.
It doesnt matter thou, i did only point out the current size is ok for both to war each other.

EDIT: If you check my post i pointed out that simians was 70k acres and now 75k acres. The only ones we have hit is Acres. The acres must come from you.
I could go take a summary and id say the summary would say maybe 7-8k acres up to our side vs your KD. Must i check?
The point is you are very able to war us and demanded war from us.

I speak for myself "Migz", but i did not mind taking you to war. I know how my kd warred, even with 3 provinces down, i would have been glad to take you to war, as i only get active in wars. But i do not speak for that kd now. My post here was to let the Utopian Community know that ACRES will no longer exist as a kingdom name, and it is temp named so until they find a new kd name. My post wasnt a place for whining about Gbing and crap.

Anyways, as for me, Good luck Anri Vs Nick. This must be the fight of the 2 newbs of the century.

[shotgun]

Anri, as far as I know, Acres only entered the GB for the razekills. They never intended to fight your kingdom.
I can only share my PoV here.

It's very simple. I'm responsible for Acres being brought in for the razes on Calle + HellRazor (whether I have anything to do with them being brought in or not is irrelevant here).
Thus, I'm responsible for them being opped and trad marched by you - for the hostile status and the potential war button, in effect.
You wouldn't have a war threat over them, if they didn't participate in the razekills. They also wouldn't have a bank FB'd down to 20k peasants.

All those are direct effects of them joining the fray.

Thus, I can't accept a CF right now because that would mean abandoning them.

Things would be very different if they initiated hostile on you (they didn't) or if they didn't make it clear that they would wish the slates clean (which is a reasonable thing to ask).
You wanna hostile them? Fine. Offer an ingame CF to them, clear the meter and wave them. Just like you did with Sanc.
Signing an in-game CF agreement means that you're willing to clear the hostile meter, no more and no less. It was a very decent thing from you that you did so.

Personally, I believe that it would be a fun fight and you guys SHOULD be able to fight without interference. But that's irrelevant here.

I just do the right thing. My opinions and preferences don't matter here.

so basicly you expect a KD to get GBed and not retail and just take it as it is?
on what world do you live on? it sounds nice..
in any rate.. 4 KD attacked us, were it justified or not it doesnt metter.
out of the 4 kd we could only retail 2 of them due to size diffrence.. thouse 2 were acres and you
we chosen to focus all our efforts on acres while ignoring the rest.
now.. you expect us just to let them recover all the dmg done to them b4 we deside to war them?! and why is that? you think that they can just get away with the GB and war whenver it suits them?! if we couldve retailed sanc we wouldve done so, same goes for hoh.
but out of the 4 kd`s we chosen acres.
and all that happens now is just lame powerplay.
sanc or you or whoever called 4 kd`s to GB us.
one of the KD got the short end of the stick and got retailed+dmged hard by us.. so they went crying to sanc to keep them safe...
i dont see any reason why we should CF acres. we will exapt or denny CF`s based on individual KD. we dont see fit CFing acres so we wont do it. and if some lame alience aka abs trying to force us to do it they can just go and **** them self

[Anri]

Since we been PKed and both banks is gone i dont see why we shouldnt continue 1 vs 1 fight without interference.

I understand this is not the place for it but i am venting cause i think whats going on is wrong.

[csarmi]

No, I expect you to clear the meter to remove the points from the razes before I can move on.

As soon as that's done, you can fight on 1v1 for all I care. I'm responsible for the meter being unbalanced. I'm not responsoble for whether Acres can stand up for themselves in a clean fight.

[Anri]

No, I expect you to clear the meter to remove the points from the razes before I can move on.

As soon as that's done, you can fight on 1v1 for all I care. I'm responsible for the meter being unbalanced. I'm not responsoble for whether Acres can stand up for themselves in a clean fight.

Ohhh cmon, Nick_Mi said get to 200 meter so we can war.
They hit random hits. It was very little razes from them. The only ones that razed was their UBs that couldnt really do anything else. Except that they hit TM and learns on our banks when they were still in range. You seriously think they hit with razes only?

They treated us as any other target with a mixture of hits vs our entire KD.

The meter is not unbalanced. We are soon meeting each other around 150 points on each side. All while we been gangbanged. They have every single advantage you could ask for.

[Anri]

I dont expect Sanc, HoH, Csarmi and Acres to be reasonable here and let us fight 1 vs 1 thou.

We are good with whatever decission that is made. We are just stating we will not CF all parties involved and we been going for war vs Acres all since Nick_Mi told us how much we suck and how pussy we are to not war them. (Look at all advantages they have all ready). Its more then fair that we are left alone to fight them now.

GB and PK is done.